The real genius is pushing the dems this far to the left right before the midterms. Repeal the 2nd amendment...

The real genius is pushing the dems this far to the left right before the midterms. Repeal the 2nd amendment? Please run on that

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Nigga please.
>trump is biggest democrat

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An average Democrat from 20 years ago would now be considered a redneck neonazi by further lefties today.
I know this because I am one.

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You do realize that Bill Clinton from the 90's would be considered an ultra nazi today by the modern left
>Person who is fighting for a constitutional amendment in the constitution of the united states is burning the declaration of independence because reasons
The left really cant meme

That’s Trump questioning bill stick your dick in crazy even if it means sticking it in a ceiling fan Clinton about his rides on the Lolita express dipshit

You know Gates is a cooperating witness right ?
Look what came out yesterday.
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>You do realize that Bill Clinton from the 90's would be considered an ultra nazi today by the modern left
Yep. It is funny how far left shit has gone. The snap back the other way is going to hurt bad.

Uh-uh. Drumpf is a big poopy head who couldn't think two moves ahead if his life depended on it. 4-D chess my ass.

Suchs a poopy head. Manages to be president and causes so much butthurt around.

Would be strange if hed actually be as stupid as the leftist wankers try to paint.

>the left can me-
Not so fast there, kiddo.

They're pushing the Overton window left you fucking retard. Trump is trying to ban bump stocks now to appease them.

> pushing the dems this far to the left right before the midterms
every single Democrat that ran post Trump has been way to the right of party bosses. Lamb and Jones come first to mind.

> Repeal the 2nd amendment? Please run on that
the Democrat party was rather muted in support of stuff like March for our Lives. a few mayors here and there, non of the big names. it's been handled excellently with the focus on muh kids instead of muh guns. It makes GoP look like the party that's for killing kids, doesn't lose Democrats any of their anti gun voters and doesn't create any pro gun voters for GoP

SURE PLAYS A MEAN PINBALL

>every single Democrat that ran post Trump has been way to the right of party bosses. Lamb and Jones come first to mind.
Because they were running for seats a Republican occupied in a red area...

You honestly believe no one paid attention to those kids' "demands" for banning weapons, and this will have no impact because everyone's already set in their stance? I'm relatively sure there are plenty of Democrats who think banning semi-automatic weapons is cancerous.

>it's been handled excellently with the focus on muh kids instead of muh guns
Nope, sweetie, it's about kids telling adults that they know better about what's good for them, and that the adults don't understand that they need to be disarmed for their own good. If you can't see that this is how Middle America is viewing the entire failed gun grab campaign, then I don't know what to say. Maybe not using a crisis actor whose story changes and a shaved head shitskin would have helped in the public eye, but probably not, no legal gun owner or supporter of 2A wants to be lectured by someone whose biggest experience was picking an outfit for the Jr. Prom.

>It makes GoP look like the party that's for killing kids
That's what you can't get past, is that those in the middle and on the right do NOT fly by sheer emotion over logic the way your kind does. It'll ultimately be your undoing in all of this, but not until you've put the final nail in your own coffin, and we're getting closer to that time, problem for you is you're too stuck in the middle of a failed victory lap that you completely missed out on seeing that your narrative has pretty much already died.

Well it would obviously have to be a ‘give them an inch to gain a yard’ type of thing

and more importantly winning them. with minority and far lefty vote now locked in thanks to Trump they have made the right call to push for a more moderate approach. Democrats underestimated just how much people hated Hillary and how false the narrative of a *blue wall* is. Maybe the loss of Alabama and a race in PA will be a wake up call to start some better campaigning in white areas again.

I'm not saying these kids won't change quite a few people's minds (whether pro or anti gun). I'm saying that Democrats did wisely to spin the narrative towards muh kids instead of muh guns as far as official party policy goes. I haven't seen anything particularly wacky coming from the likes of Schumer or Pelosi in regards to guns, whereas you had Santorums and Perrys say stuff like: durrr instead of protesting learn CPR - as if to say school shootings are part and parcel of living in US. I'm glad how they've handled it.


you're a very brave person and God loves you just the way you are

Fair enough.

I am pro-abortion. But if we are being honest, it's killing kids.
It is hard to take pro-abortion people seriously when they try to "think of the children's lives" as a precursor for inacting some sort of national policy.
The left has done such a fantastic job arguing that it is normal to regularly kill children.

The sad thing is enough lefties agree with that stance that it won't change their vote. The general public has been brainwashed to think a gun ban is the only logical answer.

nigga what the fuck does this even mean

You know that's recycled old news right? You know no one gives a shit because gates is a rino plant right? You know all his and manaforts bullshit all leads to the podestas, hilldawg and the communi...i mean democrats right?

yeah that's working out really well.
the dems are winning virtually every special election. GOP turn out is down 50%. unlike the /ptg/ fags and other sycophants normal people see he's being a fraud and just say fuck it.
he promised deportation and we get a DACA lovefest, he promised a wall and we're getting a fence. not everybody is going to buy muh 4D chess excuse or q predicted it bullshit.
it's not that the dems will win any votes but after being lied to some people will just say fuck and stay home. you can disagree with me but turnout is proving me right.

Fortune favors the brave, but not quite sure how being objective instead of being emotionally charged exactly qualifies as "bravery". And, as confirmed by what I said, the narrative of the "kids" telling us we need to be disarmed has already reached the point where it's on the defensive, as the artfully crafted GIF of the bald little princess tearing up the constitution changed the tone 180 degrees overnight. Not to mention, the abysmal showing of actual "concerned teenagers" at an event filled with adults and 6-year-olds being forced to hold signs all day didn't really resonate with anyone beyond the pussy hat crowd. And we all know, they're the same kind who still chuckle when Colbert says "Drumpf" out loud, so it doesn't take much to amuse them.

This, so very much. It's impossible for the left to continually be pro-child-elimination via abortion while claiming that a gun grab is about "saving kids" without looking terribly foolish. Pic I've posted really does well to jam up their arguments even more, it's just so easy.

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While I did a lousy job of it, my point was moral high ground is exhausted at this point.
So neither side is really able to use it effectively at this point to sway their opponents, especially with something like a constitutional right.
My apologies for the previous post being literal unclear shit.

Trump was a bussiness man trying to exploit corrupt politicians for the profit of his company. He knew exactly who to attend to.

>Make sure to vote in more Republicans, I promise I'm going to build the wall in the next two years if you do, pinky swear!

You assclowns are the biggest Jew cocksuckers of them all. Mods, please replace the "4" in Sup Forums with a star of david.

but muh 4D chess amirite??? q said stick to the plan!!!!!!! even if Trump is doing the opposite of what he ran on.

you're conflating two points retard. I don't give a shit about what these kids are doing. I love the party response to it though. You can bet that Hillary would be front and center on these protests securing votes that were already safe and losing key fence sitters. This time around it's muted af, the focus is on saving kids lives and banning bump stocks. It denied GoP the hook to counterattack and it looks like they're arguing with actual children. It forced GoP and Trump to implement stricter background checks and ban stock bumps which is an irrelevant issue overall but one that pro gun crowd won't appreciate.

Yeah, if we'd elected Bernie, Hillary, Cruz or Rand, I'm sure we'd have a wall and there's be no kikes left in America, amirite?

What's funny is that neither genuine kike-haters nor LARPing MUH GOTTA GAS EM ALL faggots (not sure which you are, don't care either way) have any viable alternatives, so either you're disinfo shilling like a complete cunt, or, were retarded enough to believe that you'd see a candidate in your lifetime who would expel the Jew menace permanently. Either way, it's not good for you.

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#metoo

boom goes the dynamite!!!!

I'm afraid we're going to have to agree to disagree then, and despite your name calling, I'll keep it civil.

The ONLY people thinking the mean old GOP and gunfolk are "arguing with children" are the same people who fell for the "save the kids, ban the guns" narrative from the get-go.

When the former Supreme Court judge came out pushing for removal of 2A and your party started to say it might be a good idea to destroy it or at very least, re-write and neuter it, as happened this week, it was the beginning of the end. Hogg and Gonzales can't save the crusade any longer, your party went full retard and showed their hand of admitting that it wants guns gone entirely, or, that IT should be the one to decide what the rest get to have, and that's the sound of the foundation of the platform crumbling underneath you.

Stricter background checks to weed out the mentally ill were never anything that most gun fans were upset about. The bump stock thing annoyed some who see anything as a start to a full confiscation, but most of them are hyper-irrational on that front regardless because they hate the left so much, they can't learn how to play the long game and give them enough rope to hang themselves. Which is what's happening right now.

Much of America currently is seeing it as "Hey, those kids don't think I deserve my right to legal gun ownership and instead of blaming the FBI for not following up on 29 reports, the school for not taking his prior threats more seriously, and the cops for not bothering to investigate, they're blaming ME and my belief in 2A as the cause of the problem, fuck that nonsense". When shaved head girl was seen tearing up the Constitution, it made it clear that was what the endgame is - even simple memery can do wonders to really open the eyes of the public, and this was a big blow to the anti-gun side. You can choose to believe you're winning, or brace yourself for the impending losses coming to your party's moves, your choice.

Trump was the only choice then but that's no excuse for not holding him accountable now. hold a politician accountable is what you're supposed to do.

Good points all around.
t. bumpstock owner.

>kill the 4th amendment
>people are too retarded to even notice
They could easily run on that platform, your hubris is blinding you.

Bump stocks are stupid who cares. They’re going after ammo now as well as basic bitch semi automatic feature set of a modern gun.

Trump has done more for gun control then King nigger ever has.

Both parties are for it so might as well run on repealing the fourth

>give them enough rope to hang themselves
or us

absolutely nobody is talking about how Trump signed the Cloud Act into law.

Because it's uncomfortable.

Legalizing the vector that was abused against you seems pretty retarded to me, though.

the truth is a massive butt hurt to the fanbois. they should have remembered principles not personality. they're no different than Obama supporters in that regard.

They have to. He keeps taking their talking points and away. Can't run on daca cause they ditched them and he stuck up for them. All they have left is second amendment bullshit

I still support him, he's my president.
I'm just hoping it was because he didn't read it, but that just might be my emotions. If he ends up another Chertoff babby, I'm done with this system.

This is literally just to fuck countries with niggers. It only applies to countries that don't have bilateral agreements with the US.

Can you tell me why it is worse than it seems? Seems like it’s just requiring US companies to turn over data with a warrant, even if it’s overseas.

Pretty much true

It's Patriot Act for foreign LEOs. It bypasses FISA completely.

>I still support him, he's my president

He’s mine as well, doesn’t mean he’s not a flip-flopping piece of shit who doesn’t do anything on immigration.

Bill introduced Trump to Melania in 1998.
>he got sloppy seconds
>muh 14D chessmaster

They also don't have to notify you, no oversight, etc.
There are about a thousand ways this can be abused by a Dem.

I.E. they don't have to confiscate guns, they can just extradite you.

a poopyhead that unironically took out at least 3 political empires (Bushes, Clintons, Obama), a mass of GOPe opponents, NeverTrumpers, Main Stream Media, US Intelligence community-largely-turned-political-opponent, and millions of brainwashed retards...and that's just inside the US...
>doesn't say much for his opponents, if he's such a fool

So you’re saying it allows foreign governments to access raw surveillance data on us citizens that our own gov supposedly can’t get without a fisa warrant?

>it allows foreign governments
Five eyes friends, yes.
>to access raw surveillance data on us citizens that our own gov supposedly can’t get without a fisa warrant?
It's not worded that way; but that is how it will be used.

Great come back

No No No No, it allows the US to access foreign country data unless the US made a bilateral agreement with it (because laws are similar i.e. a country that's not primarily niggers)

Except you're a retard who doesn't realize that Republicans are moving to the left along with them

Anyone who still supports Trump after the Omnibus bill, Bolton appointment and repeated calls for gun control and amnesty is beyond hope.

Gun rights have somehow gotten worse under him than they did under Obama.

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And then they’ll funnel it back to us. That’s what they were doing right after the election with Britain spying on Trump

Checked

So if microsoft has data on some dune coon who wants to bomb the new WTC, the US can force microsoft to give up data on them

Why do republicans suddenly care so much about the rights of sand niggers?

That’s obvious from the text of the hill and seems reasonable.
suggested there are some nefatious intentions regarding its application. And that it grants privileged acces to raw surveillance data on us citizens to foreign governments

he's my president but that doesn't mean I will support everything he does just because he's the president. if he has a decent primary challenger I will vote against him. but if that doesn't work, fuck it. just sit back and wait for America to become California and civil war.

That's what I was saying. He literally legalized the vector that was abused against him.

>he's my president but that doesn't mean I will support everything he does just because he's the president
And I don't think you should. I don't support it either. I think signing the omnibus was the worst thing he's done, by far.

According to poll conducted by renowned news sources 190% of americans want 2nd amendment to be replaced with 'all whites should be sterilised'

It's over goy. We won.

yes letting foreign governments circumnavigate the 4th amendment is so based.

And honestly, if I was president, I wouldn't allow them to put forth some 2,000 page pork barrel bullshit.
I'd say make it 300 or less, or I'm lighting it on fire.

>b-but niggers!!
>s-sand niggers!!

Shill detected.

That's also what they said about the Patriot Act but it couldn't have been further from the truth.

CLOUD Act will be used against conservatives and "Nazis" a lot more than other groups. See Europe as a precedent.

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>The CLOUD Act allows the president to enter an executive agreement with a foreign nation known for human rights abuses. Using its CLOUD Act powers, police from that nation inevitably will collect Americans’ communications. They can share the content of those communications with the U.S. government under the flawed “significant harm” test. The U.S. government can use that content against these Americans. A judge need not approve the data collection before it is carried out. At no point need probable cause be shown. At no point need a search warrant be obtained.
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fucking wonderful

My favorite is the old "b-but they were doing it anyway"

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or well if you aren't doing anything wrong why should you care?
it's like these people can see what's going on in the UK.

Oh well, they blacklisted me for fighting V1.
Let's see what happens with V2.

You all are falling for the liberal sensationalization. The foreign countries will have our comm data regardless because we can't realistically stop other countries from spying on people in their country. It just forces those countries to hand over what they have to the US. And fyi, us citizens can go to european ones (which will probably be in the bilateral agreement) and challenge the warrant in court.

Democratic idiots just put the last nail in the coffin!

And we probably won't create the agreement with countries that are our enemies.

Texas Primaries called. They asked where the hell this blue wave is.