Brit/pol/ - RIP Jonathan Bowden

Mason Davis
Mason Davis

He died today six years ago

Thread theme: never apologise
youtube.com/watch?v=vmXddTvAkQ0

Fuck links

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Bowden
youtube.com/watch?v=UBNDzxSvRk0
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uk.news.yahoo.com/remainers-apos-cave-dwellers-apos-124256434.html
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5537713
order-order.com/2018/03/28/crackers-nus-conference-occupies/
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express.co.uk/news/uk/938212/
spectator.co.uk/2018/03/why-do-politicians-refuse-to-tell-it-how-it-is-on-immigration/
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43573879
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43573871
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-43566428
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5554897/
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digitaljournal.com/article/338384
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Hudson Russell
Hudson Russell

first for slags

Gavin Evans
Gavin Evans

This thread is official property of the Coalition of Wealth.

Jayden Rodriguez
Jayden Rodriguez

Coalition of Wealth™

Tyler Sanchez
Tyler Sanchez

WE'RE NOT SORRY
WE'RE NOT SORRY
WE'RE NOT SORRY
WE'RE NOT SORRY

Evan Davis
Evan Davis

This.

Gavin Gomez
Gavin Gomez

archive.org/details/tk-Technological-Slavery

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Christopher Parker
Christopher Parker

agreed

Jace Sanders
Jace Sanders

Is that what he said to the parents of the kids he raped?

Aaron Rodriguez
Aaron Rodriguez

That.

Landon Phillips
Landon Phillips

I picketed one of the speeches he gave in 2010. He told me to get a job and I called him a nonce.

Good times.

Noah Rogers
Noah Rogers

F

Shame I will never get a chance to see the man talk in the flesh.

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Ryder Roberts
Ryder Roberts

any evidence?
you sure told him

Kevin Barnes
Kevin Barnes

lil c doing his running man signature move
fucking kek

Daniel Rogers
Daniel Rogers

Utter state of everyone that's not you.

Owen Ortiz
Owen Ortiz

Wish we could swap him for you.

Connor Morris
Connor Morris

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Ryan Rogers
Ryan Rogers

form the vanguard
form, form the vanguard

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Aiden Martinez
Aiden Martinez

Agreed.

Ryan Torres
Ryan Torres

You know who is is trying to bait lil c and he'll probably take the bait. Gentle reminder to report off topic posts.

Charles Thomas
Charles Thomas

god bless this man. greatest speeches i have ever head

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Samuel Brown
Samuel Brown

Who's ur favourite tripfag lads? Mine's PreuBe.

Ryan Ross
Ryan Ross

you haven't heard any of Oswald's then

Colton Clark
Colton Clark

dad went out last night
came home at midnight
go into the bathroom today
his suit is in the bath, drenched and covered in mud
trousers smell weird like he may have pissed himself
who /alcoholic dad/ here

Isaiah Davis
Isaiah Davis

Same

fuck off lil c

Elijah Long
Elijah Long

This.

Jace Watson
Jace Watson

Pube is what this general deserves.

Jack Howard
Jack Howard

I tried to make it through his speech on Marxism. It was so full of errors I gave up. I guess he sounds smart to right wing tools though.

Sebastian Reyes
Sebastian Reyes

This.

Nathaniel Walker
Nathaniel Walker

This.

Jeremiah Davis
Jeremiah Davis

Lads, how do we stop minorities aggregating in a vanguard way?

Dominic Sanchez
Dominic Sanchez

this general is cancer and you contribute to it by letting him back lmao. degenerate fuck.

Blake Fisher
Blake Fisher

coping this badly

James Martin
James Martin

what were the errors?

Matthew Lopez
Matthew Lopez

post slags

Joseph Allen
Joseph Allen

implying there is anything you pussies can do against or the Coalition of Wealth
Face it, you cowards didn't even have the balls to stand against me so how do you expect to bring down a worldwide organisation?

Kevin Bailey
Kevin Bailey

Not alcoholic but does come back home wrecked sometimes, his job requires a lot of socialising. He's getting a bit old for it desu.

Aiden Jenkins
Aiden Jenkins

18/1/18

Jackson Adams
Jackson Adams

death squads

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Austin Sullivan
Austin Sullivan

Excellent point made.

Brandon Sullivan
Brandon Sullivan

Who is this?

Colton Robinson
Colton Robinson

Anarchist flag
aannddd.... into the bin your post goes.

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Oliver Brown
Oliver Brown

his job requires a lot of socialising
does he work at a pub?

Zachary Myers
Zachary Myers

Shut up virgin.

Nathaniel Harris
Nathaniel Harris

shitposting obviously

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Xavier Gomez
Xavier Gomez

has a literal faggot on his flag

Austin Rogers
Austin Rogers

Excellent point made.

Bentley Watson
Bentley Watson

was he killed by mi5niggers?

Isaac Myers
Isaac Myers

hows ur degree going

Parker Perry
Parker Perry

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Christopher Perez
Christopher Perez

supforums.com/thread/165792521/politics
I don't like admitting it but I largely agree on that too.
Same, except I don't mind admitting to it and am getting closer to the point where I'm willing to sacrifice my comfort and convenience.

I think there's something to be said for fusing together technological progress and ruralism under a nationalistic approach to governance - elements of the 'Blood and Soil' - but whether that is sustainable I don't know.
His argument is that it can't work. But the distinction needs to be made between small scale technological progress and that of large scale organisational technological-industrial progress and dominance, because people take him to be calling for the abolition of all forms of technology, which is not what he actually said.

Blake Torres
Blake Torres

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Bowden

Probably, he died very unexpectedly. I reckon the establishment were terrified of him.

Brayden Campbell
Brayden Campbell

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Bowden

Eli Sanders
Eli Sanders

Wrong reply sorry, no he works in the city.

Jacob Robinson
Jacob Robinson

The most prolific pedophile in the uk

Jackson Carter
Jackson Carter

kek i was very confused for a minute

Liam Brooks
Liam Brooks

Nietzschean Credo - youtube.com/watch?v=UBNDzxSvRk0

Interview with Bowden - youtube.com/watch?v=aL3agVbX6K8

Western Civilization Bites Back - youtube.com/watch?v=sDGWr8kMBk8

The "Pulp Facism" Lecture - youtube.com/watch?v=JCGTyn4lQUY

Race is Culture, and Culture is Race (short) - youtube.com/watch?v=JagCrDFR8Ng

Underneath the Mind (short) - youtube.com/watch?v=WdV0tfsKw3s

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Juan Sanchez
Juan Sanchez

Bowden on Ezra Pound - youtube.com/watch?v=GOmuHs5-rJE

Bowden on Martin Heidegger - youtube.com/watch?v=_os-ysZJM_I

Bowden on H.P. Lovecraft - youtube.com/watch?v=V7qQ7A4rWM8

Bowden on Julius Evola - youtube.com/watch?v=4YqKf3v2aPs

Bowden on George Orwell - youtube.com/watch?v=Yaf1192EZfI

Bowden on T.S. Eliot - youtube.com/watch?v=EHK0j_a-6q8

Bowden on W.B. Yeats - youtube.com/watch?v=cYnFID0oQPU

Bowden on Savitri Devi - youtube.com/watch?v=eiZ7W4X9JCM

Bowden on Thomas Carlyle - youtube.com/watch?v=UKKv-Pu420E

Bowden on Bill Hopkins - youtube.com/watch?v=dcMHMSDXoT0

Bowden on Wyndham Lewis - youtube.com/watch?v=rVx67nfFmAo

Bowden on Robinson Jeffers - youtube.com/watch?v=xDqJqWzm8Hw

Bowden on Hans-Jürgen Syberberg - youtube.com/watch?v=ZX0oAxi7-Q8

Bowden on Yukio Mishima - youtube.com/watch?v=aRPVqQZ3YKA

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Brody Howard
Brody Howard

good ta, jan exams went well just got 3 summer ones left thats it

Xavier Sanchez
Xavier Sanchez

Conversations with Richard Spencer:

The Essence of the Left - youtube.com/watch?v=hu2xbFyAPmk

The Uses and Abuses of Nietzsche - youtube.com/watch?v=RAuu-FuptKk

Nietzsche, On The Genealogy of Morals - youtube.com/watch?v=KrrU3q7UWHs

The European New Right - youtube.com/watch?v=cOvLx_44WAI

The E Word (Eugenics) - youtube.com/watch?v=d2qvzgA95kU

Creative Destruction (Libertarianism) - youtube.com/watch?v=CMOp_twZRNU

Iran, Israel, and the Bomb - youtube.com/watch?v=wlqWOuedyEc

The Homosexual Question - youtube.com/watch?v=y4wXi7m5QWM

The Iraq War - youtube.com/watch?v=kz_qde7TWOU

Frankfurt School - youtube.com/watch?v=-G_eLMkJkNw

Feminism - youtube.com/watch?v=kRiah3BdRfQ

Democracy - youtube.com/watch?v=MJWD7F_ccPY

Politics, Politics - youtube.com/watch?v=KP3ikxZdVh8

Oswald Spengler - youtube.com/watch?v=fAY9OlphRok

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Jordan Parker
Jordan Parker

Who even cares what you say? You're as unmemorable as Ralph Waldo.

Leo Parker
Leo Parker

spreading BNP special branch infiltrator lies

user, put it to rest now.

Gavin Jenkins
Gavin Jenkins

WE'RE
NOT
SORRY

And we've stepped over the prospect of being sorry.

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Matthew Wilson
Matthew Wilson

WWII and Holocaust Revisionism - youtube.com/watch?v=9MEvGbTrwvo

Agamemnon and King Lear - youtube.com/watch?v=qMvJ-R3wJzw

Manchester Speech - youtube.com/watch?v=qQtBTwkHRhw

European Culture: A Bullet through Steel - youtube.com/watch?v=6x0AwNi2few

Cultural communism, Conceptual art, and Stewart Home - youtube.com/watch?v=5xuu93gOWXQ

The Economic Crisis caused by Speculation - youtube.com/watch?v=Sx_TPJQ1UPY

The Real Meaning of Punch and Judy - youtube.com/watch?v=w5NTZA02uu0

British Sculpture - youtube.com/watch?v=214M5c5kZi8

Bowden's 2005 Film "Venus Flytrap" - youtube.com/watch?v=m29hhS8_-7A

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Isaiah Reyes
Isaiah Reyes

Another thread I've conquered.

Lucas Torres
Lucas Torres

Conservative from Tower Hamlets

Clearly a false flag.

Ryan Green
Ryan Green

just wrote a poem lads what do you think

Though warrior women
Bravely walk the walk,
Derivatives of disproportion
Draw heinous hypocrites
To their flock.
[....]
Where did all the laughs go?
Are you out there, Louis C.K.?
Once crucial conversations
Kept us on our toes;
Was it really in our interest
To trample Charlie Rose?
And what’s with this ‘Me Too’?
This infantilizing term of the day...
Is this a toddler’s crusade?
Reducing rape, slut-shaming, and suffrage to reckless child’s play?
A platform for accusation impunity?
Due process has lost its sheen?
But, fuck it, what me worry?
I’m a hero,
To Time Magazine!

Alexander Lopez
Alexander Lopez

F
I liked his commentary

Colton Garcia
Colton Garcia

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Daniel Mitchell
Daniel Mitchell

Nice, cheers user

Thomas Torres
Thomas Torres

Thanks for these mate!

Zachary Hughes
Zachary Hughes

Lemme guess: he talked about actual Marxist praxis and you thought “Marx’s version of Marxism doesn’t align with this. Could Marx be out of touch? No... it’s the revolutionaries who are wrong.”

Connor Evans
Connor Evans

Anytime.

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Jayden Thomas
Jayden Thomas

It’s possible. He was a bad boi.

Parker Lee
Parker Lee

Mi5 pls go

James Rivera
James Rivera

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Lucas Reed
Lucas Reed

Of course you discriminate. You discriminate over who's your enemy and who's your friend. You don't treat people as all the same except in some universal ninnydom which only exists in the minds of people who want human nature to be different from what it is.

Fucking bang on.

Noah Cruz
Noah Cruz

youtube.com/watch?v=WdV0tfsKw3s

One of my favourite excerpts from Bowden. 'Underneath the Mind'.

Christian Gutierrez
Christian Gutierrez

Please ask for my permission before saving my files

okthankyou

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Owen Torres
Owen Torres

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Thomas Green
Thomas Green

am getting closer to the point where I'm willing to sacrifice my comfort and convenience.

Good - and it's a positive trait to have. I'm not so sure how far I am capable (will should never an issue, or excuse, for anyone who truly cares) to go, but it is something to be worked on.

But the distinction needs to be made between small scale technological progress and that of large scale organisational technological-industrial progress and dominance

Precisely. To use an incredibly crude example, something like a mobile phone can exist without the likes of Google having access to all of your conversational data, browsing history, etc... One does not necessitate the other, even if it helps to enable it. Too often the position is presented as black or white, with the inevitable goal driving those towards the Google side of the argument by preying on insincerity with regards to comfort.

And he was never against technology, only the rapidity at which it spread and disrupted societal norms - and even then not in a blanket fashion. Medicinal progress is wholly different towards the development of 'social media', or conveniences that allow for complete detachment from the outside world. They are not to be treated with the same disdain as they aren't the same. It's a very nuanced argument and he makes it incredibly well; which is why it's a shame it's often lumped as a, as you say, 'abolition of all forms' approach, which is probably only done to lampoon it and pigeonhole it with other fringe ideas.

Jordan Ward
Jordan Ward

Enough.

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Owen Peterson
Owen Peterson

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Samuel Richardson
Samuel Richardson

Start buying guns.

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Anthony Taylor
Anthony Taylor

Legend for our people. "Liberalism is moral syphilis..and I'm steppin' over it"

Lucas Ortiz
Lucas Ortiz

This.

THISx100

Brayden Bennett
Brayden Bennett

I DON'T LIKE THE SOUND OF THAT

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Leo Hernandez
Leo Hernandez

This.

Lincoln Green
Lincoln Green

p**rcunts think they can report my man
Shit/pol/ will pay dearly.

Easton Peterson
Easton Peterson

Another thread I've conquered.

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Logan Rodriguez
Logan Rodriguez

State of Shit/pol/ mongs.

Jaxson Harris
Jaxson Harris

fuck you op

NEW POLL:
TORIES: 43%
LABOUR: 39%
LIB DEMS: 8%
UKIP: 3%
GREENS: 2%

CORBYNISTA FAKE NEWS ABOUT LABOUR MEMBERSHIP SURGE RETWEETED THOUSANDS OF TIMES
order-order.com/2018/03/28/corbynista-fake-news-labour-membership-surge-retweeted-thousands-times/

Remainers Are 'Cave Dwellers' Says Jacob Rees-Mogg
uk.news.yahoo.com/remainers-apos-cave-dwellers-apos-124256434.html

Mail's petition to give the contract for the UK's new blue passport to a British firm tops 185,000 signatures
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5537713

Crackers NUS Conference Occupies Itself
order-order.com/2018/03/28/crackers-nus-conference-occupies/

Corbyn is a member of two more anti-Semitic Facebook groups
order-order.com/2018/03/28/corbyn-is-member-of-two-more-anti-semitic-facebook-groups/

'Is the EU trying to make Brexit impossible?' FURIOUS British MEP rips into Commission
express.co.uk/news/uk/938212/

Why do politicians refuse to tell it how it is on immigration?
spectator.co.uk/2018/03/why-do-politicians-refuse-to-tell-it-how-it-is-on-immigration/

What do people think about Brexit?
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43573879

Councils 'have no choice' but to raise tax bills
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43573871

'Youngest councillor' dies suddenly aged 21
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-43566428

Maths professor works out it'll cost you £774 to fill up your Panini World Cup sticker book
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5554897/

Liam Nelson
Liam Nelson

From 'bites back':
"there is a natural tendency to kick .. and it's life affirmative to kick, and to traduce it and kick its bottom..." "and this will attract many people to our side"

1:09:20 or so.
Late 2016 in a phrase.

David Moore
David Moore

gonna get pissed tonight lads

Bentley Roberts
Bentley Roberts

Agreed.

Nicholas Roberts
Nicholas Roberts

Why did my post get deleted.

Joshua Nguyen
Joshua Nguyen

Bongistan is finished.

Enjoy your islamic prayer, cucks.

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Ian Lee
Ian Lee

You can't kill us.

Owen Martinez
Owen Martinez

I'm drinking beer and I'm gonna get vodka later.

Brayden Watson
Brayden Watson

THIS

youtube.com/watch?v=yCjVEJoFdfA

The non believers (p**rfags) are waging war against us.

Isaiah Watson
Isaiah Watson

At least use real figures, or real advertisements in your denigration of the country. Reality is bad enough, why the need to lie?

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Gabriel Clark
Gabriel Clark

Owned.

Hudson Miller
Hudson Miller

Another thread I've conquered.

Charles Mitchell
Charles Mitchell

bowden predicted everything about the new internet culture of the 'alt right' and other assorted internet counterculture movement

"If you can tap these forces of—in some respects—codified irrationalism, if you can bring them to the surface, if you can bottle them, and if you can then add on reason and add in the discourse on Counter-Currents, you will tap the energies of future generations of majority Americans. And you will do so because it appears to be extraordinarily interesting. More interesting than anything else. More threatening than anything else. More shocking than anything else. And that is something that the Right should actually in my view heighten, in a civilized and persuasive way."

"One should never lose sight of the reason that people are opposed to our ideas is because they are thrilled to be frightened by them. They are thrilled to be appalled by them. It is the political equivalent of Satanism to many people. I’m saying nothing that is at all original. And in doing so we actually make ourselves tremendously attractive at certain levels of consciousness—not to some Southern Baptist chapter, admittedly. But you make yourself tremendously psychologically appealing. You may not have a halo over your head but you are transfigured in a sort of dark and sepulchral light, which makes you deeply spiritually ambivalent to people who exist now. And that contains the prospect of growth and the prospect of renewal."

"I personally believe people agree with ideas long before they moved towards them. They have an instinctual saying of “Yes!” They say “Yes!” to the idea before they completely have worked out all of the formula for themselves. The Counter-Currents of this world exist to provide the formula for people after they’ve said “Yes!” After they’ve put forward their first step upon the route to identity, and the politics of identity, and the religion of identity."

Austin Collins
Austin Collins

Brit/pol/ fears the coalition of wealth.

Adrian King
Adrian King

Fucking Germans

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Lucas Barnes
Lucas Barnes

rothschilds bow to the Coalition of Wealth
in contact with aliens
rumoured to possess psychic abilities
control Shit/pol/ with an iron but fair fist
own castles and banks all over the world
direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Wealthgrad will be be the first city)
own basically every DNA editing research facility on Earth
first designer babies will be Wealthy Babies.
both memberssaid to have 200+ IQ
ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon the Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
This is the Coalition of Wealth
They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
You likely have Wealthbots inside you right now
The Coalition of Wealth are in regular communication with Martin Luther and Philip Melanchthon, forwarding the word of Protestantism to protect British interests
They learned fluent French, German and Italian in under a week
Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There's no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Wealthknox
The twins are 100 years old, from the space-time reference point of the base human.
In relity, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe
The Coalition of Wealth will guide humanity into a new age of wisdom, peace and love
Rumoured to be the masterminds behind 'Russian' poison attacks
Forced Gordon Brown to sell the gold
Influence Diane Abbott to bring down the Labour party
Persuaded David Cameron to call the referendum
Own the UDA and UVF with plans to create an Ulster superstate
Use Tommy Robinson merely as puppet to gain the influence of the right

Jack Brooks
Jack Brooks

This.

Jason Allen
Jason Allen

Agreed.

Eli Clark
Eli Clark

northern syria giving us shit about muslims
hullo?

Justin Davis
Justin Davis

imagine being this mental

Jackson Foster
Jackson Foster

p**rfag cope

Joseph Miller
Joseph Miller

Bongistan YES!!

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Asher Evans
Asher Evans

p**rcunt cope

Aiden Perez
Aiden Perez

whos that eyepatch man?

Kevin Brown
Kevin Brown

Utter state of p**rcunts and their spawn.

Levi Morgan
Levi Morgan

"The Marxians have marched through the institutions of the last 50 years because the doors were swinging open for them. They hardly had to kick them down because they were swinging open for them."

"All the doors are shut to us. We must find ways to work our way around these doors and reconnect with the new minds of our upcoming generations."

"One of the reasons that this will happen is that people in the Western world at the moment are chronically bored. There’s a boredom that has settled upon our people. You can sense it. There’s a spiritual torpor out there. And the most exciting ideas, the most threatening ideas, the most psychopathological ideas, the ideas which are beyond all other ideas, are the ideas which are in this room. They are the most dangerous ideas, and therefore they have a subtle attraction to radical and dissident minds."

"Don’t forget that everything which has occurred in the last 50 years was once so dissident that the people in the 1920s—those who advocate the ultra-liberalism of today—had to meet in secret, because they were frightened of revealing what their views were to the generality, and to their own families, and to work colleagues. See how the entire notion of what it was to be “progressive” or “reactionary” or “unprogressive” or “traditionalist” or otherwise has changed around in a hundred years."

"We are now the people stalking. We are now the people who are afraid of media revelation. We are the people who are taught to be frightened and ashamed of our own views. The whole thing has been reversed in a hundred years."

Josiah Williams
Josiah Williams

"But there is a natural tendency to kick; there is a natural tendency to kick against the system which is in place. And politically-correct liberalism is an enormous target to be attacked. And it is fun to attack it. And it is life-affirming to attack it. And to traduce it and to kick its bottom and to run ’round and to be chased by it and to be opposed by all these po-faced zealots and that sort of thing."

"It’s entertaining, and that’s one of the things that people have to realize that will attract many people to our side. The bloody- mindedness of it, the useful cantankerousness of it. Everyone likes a rebel up to a point, as long as they’re not personally and they’re not adversely affected by the consequences of such radicalism. And what we need to do is position ourselves in the way that the International Times and ’60s radicals did the other way around."

"If we become the lightning rod for cultural revolution in the West, you will see, in the future, student movements that are loyal to the Right rather than Left, even if these terms break down and in increasingly group-based societies no longer have any meaning, as is occurring. But we still use them because it’s an affordable shorthand."

"But never forget the thrill of transgression. Right-wing ideas are transgressive. And are therefore interesting, and sexy. Herbert Marcuse once wrote about the eroticism of the Right. Susan Sontag did as well. And the Right is more erotic than the Left, is more exciting than the Left. The Left is boring, the Left is extraordinarily grungy and erotically unexciting, you know, despite its prevalence and its penchant for decadence. There’s a degree to which it is not as radically outside the box."

my house is a good boy zone

Carson Ross
Carson Ross

kys no one cares about your reddit tier Tory shilling

Cameron Kelly
Cameron Kelly

Good - and it's a positive trait to have. I'm not so sure how far I am capable (will should never an issue, or excuse, for anyone who truly cares) to go, but it is something to be worked on.
I'm in the fortunate position of having no family or friends and very few attachments to society apart from those that I've grown up with and become accustomed to largely out of convenience. I could quite easily walk away. I'm not afraid of dying out there. Most people aren't so lucky, and to detach themselves would be far more painful and problematic.

Precisely. To use an incredibly crude example, something like a mobile phone can exist without the likes of Google having access to all of your conversational data, browsing history, etc...
If I understand you correctly, here, then I don't think a mobile phone would be a good example to use. A mobile phone would definitely be a product dependent on large scale organisation. You would need factories to develop all the parts, factories to assemble them, warehouses to store them, and you would need towers for the signal and perhaps even satellites. You would also need factories and warehouses to build the factories and warehouses necessary to assemble the technology. You can see how quickly it spirals out of control. The one cannot exist without the other.

I think a far better example of small scale technology to use, and it's one Ted himself uses, is that of a local blacksmith. When the Roman empire collapsed they lost a lot of their large scale organisational dependent capabilities, but they could still make metal tools because that knowledge and technology was decentralised, not reliant on large scale organisation, and therefore was retained.

Dylan Rogers
Dylan Rogers

Jonathan Bowden

Who was he? Did you know him?
Sorry for your loss, chum.

Also why is there a photo of Russel T. Davis in the OP?

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Christian Thomas
Christian Thomas

are you a retard?

Dylan Diaz
Dylan Diaz

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James Diaz
James Diaz

Only the EU could have saved your shithole, bongs.
Now only nukes can.

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Justin Stewart
Justin Stewart

STOP Bullying

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Justin Sanders
Justin Sanders

they still think it's just me behind this movement, this revolution
absolute state of shit/pol/'s investigatory skills

Luke Sullivan
Luke Sullivan

absolute state of shit/pol/ investigatory skills

Jackson Thompson
Jackson Thompson

this

Lucas Garcia
Lucas Garcia

bowden was a paedophile

Sebastian Taylor
Sebastian Taylor

This.

Samuel Moore
Samuel Moore

And he was never against technology, only the rapidity at which it spread and disrupted societal norms - and even then not in a blanket fashion.
He had nothing against small scale decentralised technologies of the past. He wasn't advocating a return to the stone age. But he was definitely against large scale organisationally dependent technologies that emerged post-industrialisation, because he (correctly, in my opinion) saw it as a Pandoras box that would wreak havoc and cause disaster.

It's a very nuanced argument and he makes it incredibly well; which is why it's a shame it's often lumped as a, as you say, 'abolition of all forms' approach, which is probably only done to lampoon it and pigeonhole it with other fringe ideas.
Agreed. It's also used by people who haven't familiarised themselves with his argument to justify not having to bother trying. "Get rid of technology? He must be mad! Stupid terrorist! He killed people, he did."

Matthew Davis
Matthew Davis

Meant for

Landon Turner
Landon Turner

No, I am not, sunshine. I am nearly 90 years old and you should show some respect for your elders. I fought a war for the likes of you not to be speaking German so button up chum.

Justin Reed
Justin Reed

The utter fucking state of Shit/pol/ and its inhabitants.

Matthew Perez
Matthew Perez

but i can speak german

Joshua Garcia
Joshua Garcia

The power the coalition of wealth holds just makes them more attractive ¢=

Easton Ward
Easton Ward

Agreed.

This.

Easton Long
Easton Long

This. Bitches love us.

Blake Phillips
Blake Phillips

Hello there

Mason Perez
Mason Perez

tfw you lose against britain but still managed to destroy it

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Nathaniel Anderson
Nathaniel Anderson

but i can speak german

Well, sunshine, that was a waste of time learning it now we are brexiting.

You should have learnt Chinese instead.

Chase Hughes
Chase Hughes

There was more than one Jonathan Bowden in the UK.
digitaljournal.com/article/338384
archive.li/eZ7pa

Earlier this year, the political activist and author Jonathan Bowden died at the young age of 49. It is fair to say that the last few months of his life were not happy ones. One thing he found extremely distressing was that he had been smeared as a paedophile. This came about after another individual named Jonathan Bowden, a teacher, was convicted of downloading what appear to have been indecent images of young boys. Incidentally, one of the judges who heard and upheld that conviction in 1999 was the very same High Court judge who laughed in my face at about the same time.

Years after this Jonathan Bowden's conviction, the other Jonathan Bowden's political enemies found the case and distributed a smear story to the effect that it had been him. It may have been a similar act of malice that led to Lord McAlpine being similarly smeared. While we need not take seriously the ravings of David Icke about serving presidents or humbler British politicians kidnapping, torturing, raping and even murdering children as part of their Satanic rituals, it is fair to say that there does appear to have been a culture of cover up over matters which although falling far short of murder are still extremely serious.

Tyler Long
Tyler Long

that makes no sense but thanks

Jackson Garcia
Jackson Garcia

We've gone down the tubes.

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William Jones
William Jones

You should've learned urdu, cuck.

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Nicholas Williams
Nicholas Williams

MERCIAN INDEPENDENCE WHEN?

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Logan Allen
Logan Allen

Ace video, what a powerhouse.

Ian Moore
Ian Moore

I don't think a mobile phone would be a good example to use.
is that of a local blacksmith.

I chose mobile phones as they're symptomatic of our level of technological achievement and how it negatively influences a great many people. Blacksmithing is much less reliant on a supply chain, as you state; but then, if you limit the technology to that which can only be produced within a certain radius (or settlement size), that then implies a de facto cap on the level of technological advancement that a society can 'ever' achieve. It was a bad example now that I think about it and for what else I want to say.

But, I think the problem with defining that limit as something that can then be 'retained' knowledge is that it is far too loose of a definition to ever apply broadly across differing groups in society and at different points in time, at which point it loses its utility as a concept. It probably worked quite well in the pre-industrial age, when technology was largely limited to what could be mined in the ground or gathered at hand, etc... but today's devices can store almost infinite information on an almost infinite number of objects. Say there were to be some sort of societal collapse - and the internet went dead tomorrow. It is likely that someone in this very thread would have manuals on farming, agriculture, car servicing, whatever, saved to their hard-drive. Access to this information is then contingent upon having electrical power - this can come from a generator, or solar panels, etc... Not wider society. The generation of these ideas may have come from large-scale organisation, but ultimately the continuity is not dependant on it. This is then 'retained' knowledge, is it not?

I don't necessarily believe (or perhaps I do, but am yet to come to a summarised conclusion of why I do) there is any inherent limitation to the level of technology that a decentralised society can ever have. As long as there is access to trade, why not progress? (1/2)

Jaxson Davis
Jaxson Davis

You rich fucks will be dealt with soon

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Austin Jackson
Austin Jackson

Sounds delicious. I'll take two.

youtube.com/watch?time_continue=179&v=xfKq57aBqac

Ayden White
Ayden White

Welcome to Nuclear Krokodil Party. AIDS with a girl as an option.

Brayden Flores
Brayden Flores

And I suppose the point I'm trying to make is more about how do you guarantee that de-centralised structure, when the entirety of human history seems to be trending in the opposite direction? Hunter gatherers, tribal societies, towns, city states, countries, supra-national entities - has that not been the march of history? How do you enshrine the necessity of de-centralised structures in a way that simply won't lead to the gradual drift of society back to how it is now?

This is where I come back to the point regarding some sort of nationalistic oversight from a government. If the natural state is towards larger societies, is the only way to prevent it having (almost paradoxically) a large structure tasked with preventing this? A government attempting to prevent its own existence, in principle?

Ted didn't offer a solution, as far as I'm aware, of how to ensure that once this 'rural' approach to life was achieved, what would stop us from making the same mistakes in ten generations, when the lessons learned have been forgotten. We had close to what he wanted and this is where it has led us - how do you prevent it again?

Carter Cook
Carter Cook

UKIP will win 2022.

Logan Collins
Logan Collins

3%

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Gavin Wilson
Gavin Wilson

Meh, I've joined the party and will vote for them again in the next election. Sick of the Tories at this point.

UKIP will climb in the polls no doubt, they won't win of course though.

Landon Brown
Landon Brown

Why are anti-hunt people all so insane? Bunch of antinatalist misanthropes.

Oliver Collins
Oliver Collins

AND I AM STEPPING OVER IT

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