Well, 25 days to go until Violet Evergarden runs in Japan. And before you ask, no, this isn't a falsefag post, nor am I trying to 'kill' the show before it airs, because why the flying fuck would I want to do that?
It looks beautiful, and I all I want to know is if the plot is interesting (too lazy to read light novels).
That's all I want to know, then I'll leave this thread.
It's like The Last Jedi in how it's beautifully made.
Tyler Fisher
Alright, thanks and goodbye.
Wyatt Diaz
Thank you Based Kyoani
Leo Sullivan
Kyoani wouldn't make a show with a bad plot, would they?
Owen Gray
But that movie was trash
Isaac Reed
Thanks for ruining the subtlety of user's joke by explaining what he meant by this.
Lincoln Carter
Does this girl look like someone who would kill ten strangers in the blink of an eye?
Nolan Reyes
She is delicate, fragile and not a murderer. You a mentally damaged if you think otherwise.
Ethan Ortiz
>kills people >not a murderer
Henry Ross
What's up with the contrast on that image? Don't tell me the entire show is going to be like that?
Cameron Morgan
Stop talking shit about my wife Violet. She kills only my unborn children when consumes.
William Ross
There's nothing implicit in the laws of nature which says that stealing things is wrong, because the laws of nature don't have anything to do with morality. Neither the concept of 'theft' nor the concept of 'wrong' are innate to humans. They have to be taught. The key difference between this idea and Searle's Chinese Room thought experiment is that this idea allows the contents of the 'poster' to be altered by material from the 'IN' slot. Every human starts off with a blank poster, and over the years, it's filled with more and more rules for taking the 'input' of human social interaction and converting it into 'output' – your own participation in that social interaction. So, if we're talking about 'theft' being 'wrong', we have to think about it in terms of the 'input', the 'output', and the 'rules'. Anyway, all of these 'rules' get used to process the 'input' and eventually the 'output' pops out – let's say, for instance, that you decided to take the banknote and return it to the guy who dropped it. In this case, the rule 'theft is wrong' won out over 'money is something to be acquired'. His idea was that every human is fundamentally just 'shuffling symbols' inside the 'box' – mindlessly accepting input and manipulating it according to arbitrary, abstract rules that we only have because 'culture' or 'civilisation' imparts them to us through meta-rules. Internally, there's no such thing as society, or even morality – just rules and meta-rules, which the vast majority of people go about their lives entirely unaware of. It's not impossible for people to become aware that they exist inside a 'box'. In some cases, they even recognise the nature of rules and meta-rules. People whose process of ideation is no longer unconsciously governed by rules and meta-rules – these people are 'sociopaths'. sociopaths are those who are aware of the arbitrary nature of the rules that govern the nature and method of their human interactions
Violet is a sociopath.
Austin Young
Was there a problem when they encoded the show/trailers? Because the contrast is fucked throughout all their PVs.
Austin Hall
They're just crushing the blacks to give it a hipstery effect, it looks annoying in static images but I have found it bereable in motion.
Samuel Diaz
>this text Is this schizophasia or something
Easton Rodriguez
Don’t listen to the nay-sayers, just watch it because you won’t regret it. This is coming from a person who saw the pre screening at Singapore.
Noah Foster
stop falseflagging
Elijah Cruz
Or high functioning autism
Angel Barnes
...
Cameron Diaz
And cringiest post of the year award goes to you.
Adrian Taylor
>cringiest
Nah, I think you just about have him beat.
Dylan Gomez
It looks set to be a shitty soap opera.
Nathaniel Morgan
This is going to be AOTY.
Jaxson Nguyen
Not hard when its litterally the only ANIMATED show in whole year. The rest is outsourced to north koreans trash.
Joshua Thompson
Why would i care what someone from a third world shithole got to say?
Hunter Cook
Kyoani has an oursource studio in korea, actually. And they made this using jewflix's money.
Leo Wilson
There is no such thing as morality regardless anyways. It's just an artificially constructed set of rules that people limit themselves so as for their proper functioning relative to the society. Violet is just pure.
Chase Gutierrez
Like this?
Mason Taylor
KyoAni still owns Violet and only sold streaming rights to Netflix.
Joshua Turner
Good to know i'm among pseudo-intellectual college dropouts.
Michael Peterson
>Kyoani has an oursource studio in korea KyoAni has a studio they OWN in Korea, which however makes money on its own and barely involved in KyoAni project other than ocassionally doing 2nd key stuff. KyoAni originall was doing a LOT of outsourcing for other studios - animating whole episodes for them (including Shinbo even), 2nd key animation etc. However once they became more independent they stopped doing it alltogether and instead delegated the remaining contacts to korean studios, while KyoAni now only makes own anime and does everything inhouse.
>And they made this using jewflix's money. Wrong. Unlike "netflix exclusive/netflix original" shows, VEG is not funded by Netflix. No one aside KyoAni and Lantis are in production commity, its entirely KyoAni thing. Netflix only bought rights to stream it very late seeing the show will become popular, it also doesnt have exclusive rights -it`ll be broadcast in japan on five channels as well on other streaming services in China and Latin america.
Christian Peterson
I think we should predict which show will be dark horse of winter 2018 and beating this and Fate Extra in sales.
Hudson Lewis
BTW I would like to know what he consider himself as-a psychopath? He too seems to be aware of the constructed reality of morality.
Jason Morris
Yeah but outsourced korean trash regardless mate, as you've said
Andrew Smith
kyoanus shit stopped being top selling material a while ago
Brandon Peterson
...
Gabriel Smith
Is this sarcasm?
Sebastian Jenkins
story is shit and bland but it's probably going to be really pretty same as everything kyoani has ever done ever
Jace Cook
>They're just crushing the blacks /ourstudio/
Jason Kelly
Anime isn't outsourced to South Korea and there are "animated" shows every season.
John Lee
how so?
Justin Wood
Well, it sounds like you're being sincere about it. No HOW CAN ANYONE ELSE COMPETE/SHAFTARDS ON SUICIDE WATCH TOP KEK/GET READY TO HAVE YOUR SOUL CRUSHED bullshit. See, retards? This is how you start a thread.
Colton Peterson
Kyoani now makes their entire shows with shitty tumblr filters so that every picture of a kyoani show is a shitpost
Dylan Bennett
BUT WHO'S SUBBING IT.
Caleb Anderson
me
Alexander Lee
wrong
William Wood
It's a myth that anime is outsourced to South Korea.
Samuel Lopez
I want to violate Violet.
Robert Garcia
wrong
John Morris
Then prove that anime is outsourced to South Korea.
Jeremiah Bailey
You are correct, Trigger outsources to Chinese
Christian Scott
They don't.
Connor Diaz
Just watched the new PV, looks really beautiful, I hope the show is good as well.
Tyler Gonzalez
>Hangzhou Longqi Animation Design Co. >xenron etc.
Kevin Green
Top part of immage - Trigger`s "Kill la Kill" animation production
Bottom part of image - KyoAni`s Hyouka animation production
Jace Thompson
So your argument is that because SOME Chinese or Korean people are involved in the production, the production is therefore outsourced to China or Korea? Really?
Wyatt Anderson
My argument is that i actually know what i talk about, while you are retarded ignorant shitposter thats too lazy to ever pay attentiont to end titles of shows or research the production, otherwise you`d know KyoAni is pretty much the ONLY studio that does not outsource (Studio Blue being their subsidiary) and doing everything in house.
Just about EVERY anime you see has 2nd key, Finishing, coloring, etc done in either or both Korea or China partially or even fully.
Sebastian Powell
Also where is that second screenshot supposed to be from?
Lucas Davis
This is the precise opposite of reality. I do know what I'm talking about, while you do not. That's why I'm right while you are claiming that anime is outsourced to Korea or China, which it is not.
>Just about EVERY anime you see has 2nd key, Finishing, coloring, etc done in either or both Korea or China partially or even fully. Trying to shift goalposts, huh?
Jonathan Peterson
Pretending to be idiot at this point doesnt serve the purpose you think it does.
Liam Martin
I'm not an idiot or pretending to be one. The fact is that anime is not sourced and you are either ignorant or lying.
Christian Clark
Name one show this season that is not. I dare you.
Luke Parker
Name one show that is.
Joseph Ward
Can't wait for Kyoani to overestimate themselves and go full QUALITY from episode 8 onwards.
Jordan Bell
How come there’s like 50 studios making KlK but it still looks like shit?
Gavin Baker
Not even in your dreams, boyo.
Blake Diaz
Inuyashiki as highest profile show this season. And just about every others since theres no KyoAni show. Let alone Animegatari thats directly funded by China Film Corporation
Zachary Torres
Nice falseflag you faggot
Jordan Allen
The first episode was already shown in July, so they are way ahead of schedule. The first PV was shown in mid-2016.
It doesn't look like shit, but having more studios work on something isn't going to make look it better.
>And just about every others since theres no KyoAni show. Complete bullshit. You are either massively ignorant or lying.
Jayden Richardson
Oursorcing. Every studio does it (aside KyoAni) - Trigger is actually very small studio and does not have stuff, so recieving the funding for anime production they pretty much just do the important key frames and outsorce everything else - backgrounds, 2nd key, finishing, painting, montage etc. to others.
Big studios do that too, a typical Aniplex show easily getting 50+ compenies involved in production, Madoka having a lot more even.
A lot of people involved does not mean better quality - the opposite. Since one one has to check the stuff from multiple sources, match it, get everything in time etc. and it does not really correspond artistic vision since its not you doing stuff and you cant supervise everything.
KyoAni is the only one that does everything (sound and sometimes backgrounds aside, but now they even have own sound recording studio and) - but one has to understand, KyoAni is not a "small" studio, its almost 200 people working on permanent basis: which is unreachable for most studios.
Some studios, like A-1 or Diomedea pretty much do nothing inhouse and just gather production crew specifically for shows and outsource just about everything.
Julian Cox
Why feeling so salty if kyoani did outsourced its production to the Chinese and Korean. It's not like there is nothing wrong with that.
Gavin Allen
>ou are either massively ignorant oh the irony
Hunter Phillips
Outsourcing is "bad" in general (also inevitable for most), and Koreans/Chinese outsourcing is reason of most "QUALITY" you see posted as memes on Sup Forums
For long running series, whole episodes like say Naruto are outsourced completely
Caleb Russell
Are you ignorant or are you lying? Which is it?
Liam Collins
Almost every anime studio is outsourcing to a certain extent, but the outscourcing is done for more unimportant things (inbetween frames, painting, etc...). There's also the case that Japan's animation industry works at near 100% capacity, they just don't have enough people to do inbetween frames in Japan.
Anthony Gonzalez
That said, KyoAni did subcontracting work for others before, including Shaft`s Shinbo with Soultaker.
> Koreans/Chinese outsourcing is reason of most "QUALITY" No it isn't. Key animation is almost done exclusively in Nip. QUALITY happens when there's production issues.
Blake Baker
VEG's production is basically over by now.
Jose Perez
>unimportant You are ignorant and retarded. First of all, oursourcing is not limited to that. Whole episodes are oursourced at times - usually long running series, but even high profiles one like recently MAPPAs later episodes of 1st season of Bahamut.
Secondary, 2nd key, inbetweens, painting, finishing are NOT uninportant for fuck sake. You have no idea about how the picture you see in anime comes to and role of each step.
Easton Robinson
I don't think is saying this show is funded by Netflix. That said, one of the reason why Netflix keep getting more show's streaming right is because Netflix will directly sign the contract and give money to the studio, also they won't ask how will the studio use the money.
Nolan Ramirez
Can you stop talking about things you have zero understanding about? Guess not.
Keyframes are merely rough sketches or framework at best. Their role for final animation you see is similar to storyboard to anime episode - thats it.
Nathan Martin
>Whole episodes are oursourced at times Name me fully outsourced pisodes at least 10, you have 5 minutes.
Carter Collins
I dont have a burden to educate you in your ignorance in idioty. My role is to call you out on it and insult you as idiot you are, making you feel pitiful and regretful.
Angel White
Keyframes are finished animation drawings that form the structure of the animation cut, which is orchestrated by the key animator responsible for it. Storyboards are what key animators base their work on.
Nathan Garcia
The overall plot is hit or miss. I like the Gilbert/Violet stuff, but I can see people disliking it because they might get put off by the context of their "relationship".
Zachary Bell
Do you have any kind of source for that Netflix claim?
Ryder Long
>I-I can't procide sources for my claims, b-but I am right Everybody knows that you're a ignorant retard, that's why you instantly use SJW style excuses when somebody calls you out on it.
Robert Bailey
>Keyframes are finished animation drawings Except they are not. They are raw structure and guidelines for particular pices of animation on screen. 2nd and 3rd key, painting and finishing and post processing and digital fx and composition is what creates the animation in the end.
1st stage - is key frame 2nd stage - detailed appliance of highlights and finished core, 2nd and 3rd key already applied 3rd stage - paint 4rd stage - background and other characters/pieces of animation integration in frame 5th stage - finishing, fx and post processing
Cooper Carter
Episodes do get regularly fully outsourced, though that doesn't mean they get outsourced overseas.
2nd key animation is a recent invention and is not necessarily used. The standard is key animation -> in-between animation. The role of 2nd key animation is to clean up or finish the key animation. If there is no 2nd key animation then the key animation is the finished product, with highlights and everything.
Paint etc. is not relevant to what we're talking about.
The first sequence in that Evergarden clip is the storyboard. What comes after it is in-betweened key animation.
user the first part is the storyboard, it's litteraly written in the left corner. jisho.org/search/絵コンテ
Aaron Harris
An English one.
Even if Netflix gets exclusive streaming rights, or overseas streaming rights, the anime is still going to be part of the Japanese anime market too and there's more to that than just getting funding. Production committees don't get together just to fund an anime, the members also specialize in different areas.
Robert Davis
Age difference romance is a top tier and under appreciated genre.
John Roberts
Seems more like you're basing the laws of nature on animalistic behavior, rather than natural law that philosophers have sought out since Plato. The concept of theft is wrong, on the basis that if you commit murder, you rob one's natural right to life.
Ryder Morris
The converstation was about outsourcing to China/Korea and not in Japan, I am fully aware that studios subcontract work, use freelancer, and even fully outsource animation. It's also to note that the chart is only about animators.
For the future of anime, I see key animators and animation directors getting more & more important, it's only a question of time until digital inbetweening is good enough to replace standart inbetweening.