All this because Cell killed a robot who Gohan had literally just spoken to for the first time

All this because Cell killed a robot who Gohan had literally just spoken to for the first time

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Yeah the Super Saiyan 2 transformation was retarded but people love it because of some shitty transparent bird and then a fade to black with a red line across the screen.

People love it because it made Gohan le epic badass for about ten minutes, until he got cocky, didn't finish Cell off because he was being a complete edgelord, and then ultimately got his father and Trunks killed, leading to Cell getting stronger and almost destroying Gohan until deus ex Vegeta.

It was the straw the camel's back, not his whole motivation. Plus the shock of actually seeing someone die.

Gohan's a peacenik with a psychological block on being violent because it turns him into a beast.
Peacenik robot tells him to get violent for the sake of peace.
He gets killed.
Gohan gets violent and becomes a beast. He screws up.
Goku tells him to stop being a retard.
Gohan is complete.
Toriyama thinks he sucks though and maintains Goku as the hero forevermore.
The end.

vegeta helping him is similar to how goku beat vegeta in original saiyan arc with help from his friends. i dont see a problem with that nor how it is a deus ex machina by any definition to have him distract cell momentarily to give gohan the edge.

meanwhile goku's bitching at gohan the whole time to murder cell as if goku ever had what it took to kill anything

1.It's obvious that the editors told Toriyama to make him into a cocky tard so that Goku can be the big hero rather then Gohan.
2.Goku has litterally done the exact same shit over and over and over again. Remember the Frieza saga?
3.The only reason Gohan gets shit for it is because he's not Goku and him having his fathers ego when fighting doesn't work/is his only real weakness in battle.

>as if goku ever had what it took to kill anything
Hadn't Goku killed a bunch of people by then? He obliterated the whole Ginyu force.

Goku knocked them out, Vegeta killed them

Yeah that was the same volume where krilin calls vegeta a bastard lol

Goku annoyed me during that fight, constantly shouting "FINISH HIM RIGHT NOW GOHAN!"

Also a bit rich coming from the guy who let Frieza power up to 100% and gave him time to destroy Namek.

Fun fact: Kid Buu was the only person Goku killed in Z.

To be fair, he thought he had killed Cell when he blew his top off and didn't mind.

Goku also damn near killed Piccolo Daimao, though depending on how you view reincarnation, he technically did.

He killed that monster in Babidi's spaceship. Also
>person

>his father still saw him as just a kid who kicks ass when angry
>his teacher still saw him as just scared kid he trained 5 years ago
>his mother still only saw scholar-to-be
That piece of junk was literally the only person to actually understand him.

>goku beat vegeta in original saiyan arc
fucking lol
goku did NOT beat vegeta in saiyan saga
vegeta was the one who destroyed goku

goku was not even able to move when oozaru gohan, yajirobe and krillin were fighting vs vegeta

He killed Piccolo Daimao
He also killed General Black and Tambourine

>Also a bit rich coming from the guy who let Frieza power up to 100% and gave him time to destroy Namek.
Goku had a reason for becoming an edgelord. Gohan on the other hand didn't.

Fuck sake 16 is such a flimsy excuse. Krillin on the other hand is a long-time character and Goku at the time thought he was gone for good and that he couldn't revive him anymore.

Fuck off. Godhan is cool

OP is a faggot.

Goku straight up MASSACRED the Red Ribbon army when he was a kid

Because at this point Gohan was 11 years old fighting people that have fought longer than he's been alive.
Android 16's speech let him realize that it wasn't wrong to fight Cell, because he doesn't listen to reason.
Goku went full retard and gave Cell a senzu bean. Vegeta went full retarded and let him get perfect. Krillin didn't Alt F4 18. One of the best scenes in the anime because of the voice acting and music.

Because at that moment Gohan is the only person capable of killing Cell. Vegeta could have charged up another Final Flash and Goku Insntant Transmission but lol wut.

You mean until holding back magic.
>Holy shit Cell came back stronger than ever, now he is more than a match for even Gohan.
>It's no problem everybody, Gohan is actually holding back! He hasn't unleashed his full power yet. If only he can tap into it, he can defeat Cell with no trouble.

t. Mr "I never watched Dragon Ball" Toonamifag

hey

that giger alien robots a robot

not even an android

he shouldn't be in there

He was already under great stress to perform, Robot Mohawk Schwarzenegger was the last straw that broke the camel's back

There should be a lot more rr guys in that pile.

>Plus the shock of actually seeing someone die.
youtube.com/watch?v=pNWPdGCDVhw

In the world of Dragonball eternal life and rebirth do exist.
When you kill a robot it is dead for good. That makes destroying a sentient robot much worse than murder.

That just to show how powerful Gohan actually is. Even with one arm injured and half his Ki gone, he still had enough power to completely destroy powered-up Cell.

A full health Gohan whose confidence hadn't dropped would have utterly stomped Cell.

Of course Vegeta like a retard as usual just had to fuck everything up.

This
Everyone, including Vegeta, always acts like Goku beat him. It was a massive team effort and even by the end of it Goku was in worse shape than Vegeta, since Goku couldn't move and Vegeta could.

That only goes to show that as a kid, Goku knew that when shit got real he had to murder. In his adulthood he become a complete retard who most of time is willing to let genocidal complete monsters get away just because they gave him a good fight.

>When you kill a robot it is dead for good.
8 was brought back to life.

Technically Roshi killed Boss Rabbit. Goku "Put him on the moon" which Roshi then destroyed.

Which makes the whole thing silly because it makes it seem like Vegeta was just really salty over Goku being able to land a few punches and counter his Galick Gun.

makes sense

the robot was one of the few genuinely good people in the series

That is still the most brutal fight in DBZ.

Everyone who was still alive was clinging onto life.

To be fair one of the reasons they did the whole Super Saiyan all the time training was so they could control the violent temper caused by the form. He probably didn't realize Super Saiyan 2 cancelled all that and put Gohan right back in the same state of mind he had the first time he transformed.

Vegeta's record against Goku is 2-0

It's less about "I lost to Kakarot" and more "Kakarot keeps getting stronger faster than me" that he is pissed about.

He is much more chill now, especially because he got SSB first

>number two

Difference is that he decapacitated his opponents first. He didnt beat them and kick them while they were down and he didnt play with them either. He put people down as soon as he could.

At least thats how it was till the Super anime hit which utterly disgraces him as a fighter

also the music.
youtube.com/watch?v=xfyeud94JnQ

>Everyone, including Vegeta, always acts like Goku beat him.
For good reason, without Goku, they would all be dead. He was the MVP. As far as an arrogant, elitist fuck like Vegeta was concerned, it was an insult that a peasant like Goku surpassed his strength, whacked him around like a ragdoll, countered his most powerful technique, defied certain death and spared his life. A technical win in a 1v1 is worthless when he came to completely dominate and instead struggled and ran off bruised and beaten while Goku was still breathing at the winner's table. It was utter humiliation.

Interesting. I wonder if Gohan in SSJ1 form would have fared better against Cell if he hadn't learned to control the form.

im still salty they never wished 16 back to life

ya sure 8 can die but the dragon balls revive him

Didn't they wish everything that was destroyed by Cell to return?

He's still out there, tending to his birds. Be nice if he made a cameo in Super.

he's a pile of scraps where the fight took place just waiting to be fixed. literally everyone forgot about him. his death caused gohan to get SS2 you think at least somebody would go looking for him

>Difference is that he decapacitated his opponents first.
What fucking anime/manga have you been watching reading?

Piccolo does that, Vegeta, does that, FT does that and was loved for it. Gohan did that before he started copying Goku.

The fuck?

didn't have a soul. couldn't be brought back. gohan probably knew this when 16 died too.

android 8 had no soul and was brought back

cooler could kick cells ass or majan buu