Classroom of the Elite

Ok i just finished watching this show and i have a lot of questions.

1. The quotes at the beginning of the show. In the actual source, are they included? Or was that just added in the show?

2. I have a feeling that the protagonist is not the same as the source material. Am I correct in that hunch?

3. Is that Sudo guy, the hot headed freak, relevant?

4. The psycho bitch. Her story went nowhere. At all. What was the point of all that?

5. Were there some mistakes in the show? When the MC got introduced to the other girl in another class, the next scene after that, the girl talks to him like they know each other already and asked for his help to pose as her boyfriend. The fuck?

Lastly, does the other MC, the girl, actually get together with the guy MC? Even after what he said in the finale I mean.

Overall it was an ok show, but I felt it didn't really go anywhere. Like, the story hasn't started or something. Only reason I watched it is because I was sick yesterday and remembered that there are threads about this die but I never checked it out.

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Terrible adaptation. Read the LN, it's great.
Someone from here is even translating it, so you have no excuses.

All I can say is that the LN was a lot better the anime you watched had a lot of scenes cut out so I can get why it doesnt make much sense for anime only watchers

1.the quotes were made up and added in anime only. They didn't exist in the LN.
2.He's more robotic in the anime than the LN like for example in the LN he was flustered when Kushida made him grope his breast. However he's still a calculating cold-blooded individual. His monologue in at the end was in the LN as well.
3. He becomes important for Horikita's development in Volume 5. Also he has a crush on her.
4. Anime stopped at a point before she starts backstabbing.
5. There will quite a few mistakes. The main one being that Horikita was shilled over the other girls to the point that she stole scenes from other characters.
6. If you mean Horikita then no. In fact the closest person to MC right now is Karuizawa Kei the girl with a ponytail.

Plz dont take that shitty adaptation seriously You will probably have a better time reading the LN

>Also he has a crush on her.
Stop liying you fag.

> Also he had a crush on Kushida
FIFY Horikitafag.

He's not lying, you know. Sudo does canonically have a crush on Horikita. Also, OP if you're reading this I want you to know that pic related girl is best girl. If you've only watched the anime you may remember her as the girlfriend of Hirata, the class leader. But believe me, she gets a LOT better. A hell of a lot better.

>He becomes important for Horikita's development in Volume 5. Also he has a crush on her.
I hope you are talking about sudo, because 50%man doesnt feel anything for any of the girls right now

Threadly reminder. Horikita a best and OTP.

He is. The third question OP asked was
>Is that Sudo guy, the hot headed freak, relevant?
So yeah he is sort of relevant, especially when it comes to Horikita's development. 50% doesn't give much of a shit about Horikita but Sudo legit likes her.
Also
>50%man doesnt feel anything for any of the girls right now
I'd like to disagree with you on that. Pic very related. He's only done that for one girl as of the latest volume. You know which one.

He is talking about Sudo that is number 3. where the guy asked about Sudo.

Ah I knew my hunch was correct about the MCs attitude. L

>Kei Karuizawa
Who the fuck is that?

Isn't that girl just a background character?

Pretty sure the show solidified that the black haired girl, is the one right? The finale even showed that she changed a bit after the test.

Can you guys not read? That was an answer to the 4th question which was about Sudo not 50%.

>Kei Karuizawa
>Who the fuck is that?
The best girl.

*3rd.

Nah after volume 4 she is like a main heroine. The closest person to the mc. She is the girl that got her panties stolen.

>>Kei Karuizawa
>Who the fuck is that?

I read wrong that, my bad.

Ichinose is best. Kei isn't in the top 3.

>Isn't that girl just a background character?
You see that's what the director of the anime WANTS you to think. He's a big fan of the black haired girl and pretty much shoehorned that black haired girl into scenes she has no business being in. That background character girl? Yeah, she's main heroine. I admit in the anime she doesn't seem like a very good person, acting rather bitchy and all. But once you get to know more of her, which you do in the already translated volume 4, you'll understand why she's legitimately best girl.

>proxies.

Nah at most 100-200 proxies the rest are votes from japan and china.

Horikita is the main girl. Don't believe Keifags' lies.

>strawpoll
Easiest poll to spam ever.

>Beliving in your delusions

Yea sure Whoriktafag.

And here we go again. Every fucking threads

Ignore the whorikita shiposter guys.

Here we go again.

>Easiest poll to spam ever.
Do it please, I don't want to see Suzune in 4th position

No one is autistic enough to do that, user. There's no Keifag or Horikitafag alive that autistic. Anyone autistic enough to spam 1500+ votes would not live long enough to learn how to use the internet. Natural selection is a thing. I'll admit some of them might be duplicates, but even so at most 300-400 votes are fakes no more. The rest of them are most likely genuine votes. Which means even taking the fake votes out of the equation, Karuizawa will still rank above the other girls.

No one would be so autistic as to deplicate hundreds of votes to that extent.

It got fucking put on tieba. If you actaully don't think kei could at least get 500+ from that site since we know chinese are crazy about her.

Reminder

This is true. Horikita is still the main girl no matter if Kei wins.

You're shitposting yourself too. Every fucking thread is the same.

>Horikita is still the main girl no matter if Kei wins
Hahaha sure.

>Horikitafags after volume 7.5

Haganai.

Keifags are too quick to claim victory. For all you guys know Ichinose will steal the spotlight once her arc comes aorund.

>comparing Haganai shit with this LN
I hope you are joking.

>Haganai
That's an exception among exceptions in the LN industry. The author went full retard and pulled one of the most nonsensical endings in a LN I've ever read. I have faith Kinugasa won't be that retarded. He's written multiple VNs and a LN before and those turned out pretty well. He also has veteran advice from his senpais so he should be on the right track. Whatever happens, this one won't go the Haganai way

Kaguya-sama uses the same format. Kaguya is the main girl. Subject F is not the main girl, only just the heroine.

It's a valid comparison. Prove me wrong.

>Keifags are too quick to claim victory.
Only because we are fairly certain victory is in sight. And plenty of events in the LNs themselves to back up that conviction. The rooftop scene in question being the most prominent one. I really can't see Kiyotaka doing that sort of thing for ANY other girl except Kei.

It's not. MC went down each girls's route and he picked was meido whom got the most development and they went out for a year.

>It is like comparing an autistic retarded writer with an inteligent and direct one.
It isn't.

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I didn't realize that the meeting with Kiyopapa were already fully translated.

I bet you anything Ichinose is still more popular than Kei.

That may be a bit of an exaggeration but I do agree with the spirit of your argument. Kinugasa may not be the best writer ever but I'm confident he'll do a better job than Haganai's author at least. It doesn't matter how wins, as long as Kinugasa can deliver it in a believable and satisfying manner. That said, Kei is going to win so fucking hard

Main girl not winning doesn't make the author retarded? Or what? Kinugasa is retarded because the main girl isn't going to win?

It isn't because of that the main girl didn't win, it was because he pulled a retarded end like "in the end we all are just friends and literally nothing fucking happened".

>Kinugasa
>intelligent and direct
He bombed his first LN. Demon should have won. Pretty sure he was too pussy to deliver loli end, so he changed to Angel winning in the last book.

>"in the end we all are just friends and literally nothing fucking happened".
That's not what's being compared here, idiot.

>Nonsense. There is no other path in life other than the one I planned for you. You are the one that one day will exceed myself and rule Japan. Why can’t you realise that?
Interesting. From the looks of this it seems like 50%'s father is raising him to one day rule the country. Perhaps as Prime Minister? Or something more? Either way, it looks like Kiyotaka is at the very least according to his father, capable of doing that much. It's hard to imagine anyone except Arisu being a match for him with this. It looks like he was taught a very specific set of skills that lets him come out on top every time.

Honamifag here. I don't think she's the most popular among the LN readers anymore. Remember that the poll was done when there were only 6 volumes, before the anime aired and before the boost in sales. The majority of the readers are new and got their opinion shaped by the anime boycott and vol 7.
If Vol 8 (or even 7.5 with some Honami scenes) is centered on her and she gets enough good development (not like the anime ending), then she might claim back her throne. But until then, Kei is first because of all the focus she has got until now.

Keifags rekt'd.

I didn't read his previos LN, then I don't know. But his VNs are really good.

I'm talking about Hanagai's author. I said that one author is really different than the other one, is like comparing totally different things. You that isn't seeing that and Kinagusa isn't retarded, he can make the girl he likes the most win whatever he wants, then fuck off.

He just like blondes

Dunno about his VNs, but the VN industry is obscure and niche enough so holding back is rarely by scenario writers done unless full commercial may result in controversy over certain subjects.

why do so many people like used goods?

Fair enough. Right now Kei is getting an obscene amount of focus. We're just coming off of the volume 7 high and already we're being shuttled onto the volume 7.5 hype train. And both of them happen to be Karuizawa focused. I can understand her finally edging out Ichinose in popularity. The only question is, will that last when volume 8 with Ichinose's arc comes around or will Kei still be able to maintain the current lead she has? In terms of design, Ichinose has the hotter one but so far she hasn't really gotten much development. On the other hand, Kei is already a well fleshed out and developed character with likable traits so I can understand her skyrocketing popularity.

>Used goods
>Kei
See that's where you're wrong.

Yeah, she will win user, is almost certain by now.

You're interjecting and talking about something else. The original topic was Horikita is still the main girl even if she won't win.

Somehow I see them releasing a spin off about her after her arc ends. The way they marketed Horikita's spin off (approach her option in the cover) makes me think Kinugasa want to develop the story like a VN using the LN

Not that user but you're right. Horikita is still the main girl if only by virtue of being on the first volume cover. Those ones are always considered main girls even if though lose. Yozora was undeniably main girl even though she lost miserably. Same way Horikita is still main girl even though I'm doubting the chances of her victory significantly.

Jesus christ, you are retarded or something? You that began comparing the LN with Haganai that is totally different. I just saying that the 2 can't be compared.

>Horikita is still the main girl if only by virtue of being on the first volume cover
Then Eriri was the main girl if you follow that logic. That still is completly wrong.

>dat abnormally huge hap
Bullshit. Must be the work of F-san.

You mean this by Horikita's spinoff right? Yeah they really made it out to look like a VN type scenario.
>This route is a happy ending? Or is it...
>I, towards Horikita Suzune-----
>Approach her
>Keep my distance
Translations of Horikita's spinoff in pic related. It's treated very much like a VN where you have the options of interacting with her in different ways. Her spinoff route starts with 50% choosing to help her deal with her onii-sama problem.

>The only question is, will that last when volume 8 with Ichinose's arc comes around or will Kei still be able to maintain the current lead she has?
Its certainly possible. It would require a lot of progression from her or any other girl and Kei would have to take a backseat. Though I will say that Kei will always remain as one of the favourites

>used goods
Be careful of what you use to shitpost because it will backfire
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>昔ライター同士で飲んでて最年少だった衣笠君がわりと真面目なトーンで「やっぱ（ヒロイン枠に）非処女ってまずいですよね」って相談してきたとき「逆に新しいよ！ やるなら今だよ！」とか嘘八百の即答して必死に若い芽を摘もうとしてたタカヒロ＆るーすぼーい＆王雀孫とかいう老害
>This one time, a bunch of us writers went drinking, and the youngest one there, Kinugasa-kun, got kinda serious and asked, "It's a bad idea to make a non-virgin the main heroine, right?" But the older guys, Takahiro, Looseboy, and Ou Jackson, immediately lied to his face, saying "That's actually breaking new ground! Now is the perfect time to do it!" Terrible advice that was sure to ruin the kid's career.

That basically confirms that Horikita's route is in her spin-off manga and she WILL be friend-zoned in the LN.

This tweet was posted 1 day after Youkoso Volume 1 release so this pretty much confirms that Kinugasa had planned for Kei to be the true heroine.

The thing is, I don't see Kei taking a backseat. Not anymore. 50% promised Manabu to help him deal with the Nagumo problem, right? But he'll need pawns to do that. Horikita alone won't cut it. He needs someone who with a large social network and a lot of contacts in the school. Horikita doesn't have that. Kushida does but she's an enemy. Only other person is Kei. So I think she'll remain active even after 7.5. She'll be one of his pawns helping him against Nagumo, there's no way she'll just vanish since she's one of the few useful pawns he has right now.

Cover is only one factor. It doesn't determine main girl. Yozora, Tsukiko, Ringo, Tomoyo, Erica, Lisha, and many others aren't the main girl simply because they're on the first cover.

>comparing the LN
You mean as an example of main girl who didn't win. English is clearly not your main language. You should check the chain again since you're being retarded.

And this Jackson Ou also promoted the vol 1 in the same day on twitter, so it was clearly referring to the novel

He's going to use Hirata. Kinugasa has already confirmed that Hirata will have his story highlighted in the next arc

Kei is in fact USED GOODS? Haha oh wow. Meme turned reality.

The real question here is. How old is Kinugasa? Those authors all called him 'kid' and the youngest one there so obviously he's a lot younger than them, a kid compared to them. And he only got engaged at the time of volume 4's release as he said in the afterword. So that's like only a year or so ago. I'm guessing he's in his late 20's to early 30's? I'm curious to know what kind of person his wife is like and if he modelled any girls in the LN after her. Please let that be Kei

Karuizawa is considered the main heroine because she and 50% simply have their destinies intertwined for the rest of the story. She can not survive without him, and he is extremely possessive with her

I did understand what you said about a main girl that didn't win in that LN. But I was trying to say that Haganai is an exception because the author trolled everyone and don't gave a shit about the ending. Kinagusa isn't like that author.

I don't see her taking a backseat either. 50% doesn't want to let go of Kei again and he himself said that Kei can't go on with her school life without him now. She obviously won't always get the main focus but I do believe that she will always have something important to do each volume.

>Terrible advice that was sure to ruin the kid's career.
Trying to break new ground is one thing, but hoping it won't turn ugly is another thing. If readers later find out that Kei had sex with some other guy BESIDES the MC, then there's a very high chance of many fans turning against her.

And Horikita can be the 1st girl, but not the real main heroine. He is doing like one of his VNs.

It's not an exception for the example that's being compared to. Haganai is only an exception in the area of nobody won.

>Keifags are too quick to claim victory
I agree with you on that. It's a bit too early to claim that Kei won. As for now, she's undeniably in the lead and has pretty good chances of winning since there's no pretense in her relationship with Ayanokouji, she saw his good and bad sides and fell in love with him knowing that. That's something no other heroine has achieved so far. But that alone doesn't mean that she won, since Youjitsu isn't even close to the end and there's still a lot of things to happen until then.

Only if you admit she's the main girl

But that's an extremely unhealthy relationship and I don't see this turning out well for either 50% or Kei herself. This kind of dependency she has on him is going to be crippling for her later in life. What's she going to do after graduation? Literally marry him? Otherwise he'll be gone and she won't be able to function normally given how dependent she is now. Also, that possessiveness he has of her will sooner or later turn into yandereness once he becomes more human. That can't be healthy either. Honestly I think 50% and Horikita's relationship is the healthiest and the real endgame relationship. Sudo is a cuck.

That would only increase her merits. Bullied, raped, abandoned by the family and yet she keep their heads up. She's not a brocon who thinks she's better than all other people.
But let's face it, the publisher would not allow it. Kei was not raped, otherwise we would know from her PoV. And Hirata is gay, so Kei is ready waiting 50% after he finishes work with Satou

Is anyone scanning this?

The NTR is real.

>If readers later find out that Kei had sex with some other guy BESIDES the MC, then there's a very high chance of many fans turning against her.
I'm sure Kinugasa originally had planned for Kei to have been raped in her backstory but his editors probably didn't allow it.

Correction, she is one of the top 3.

There are Nip scans of it. But there are no English translations of those scans yet. Perhaps we could ask TL-user if he could do a little bit of the spinoff too.

The early draft probably made her not virgin (gyaru, boyfriend), then the editor probably made him change it to just bullying to avoid fans burning the books. Remember she said she was made to confess to guys she didn't like as part of the bullying?

Fucking dammit, what I'm trying to say, is that Kinagusa style is different. He is doing like his VNs. It is like a VN in a LN format. Horikita can be the 1st girl, but she isn't the real heroine. It have a common route with all the heroines and depending what you do you will get the heroine's route, that is what is happening here.

50% and Karuizawa are not normal people. The problem with Horikitax50% is that she will never have the impact that Kei had on him. The only one that brings 50% new feelings and sensations (thighs feitiche) is Kei.

I agree. If this were a VN, Kei would've definitely been raped in her past. She's prime rapebait. Even more than Sakura. There's something extremely rapeable about a bullied girl who can't fight back and very easily suffers from Stockholm syndrome. There's no way she wouldn't have been raped if this were a R-18 novel. Alas, editors probably didn't let Kinugasa do it so it's safe to assume Kei IS a virgin.