Can we just have a genuine discussion about this show, Sup Forums?

I'm in the mood to talk about this show, although i'm not sure about what aspects about it to discuss. Surprise me mates.

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Lain was a freak

I guess that's one way to watch it. In the nightmares of fabrication manga it portrays her as mentally unhinged, which is what i'm guessing you mean by "freak". I found her relatable with her antisocial tendency's that spiraled out of control

The story itself doesn't hold much value today and was never that special or revolutionary to begin with.
It's well directed and especially the sound design is great, gotta give it that.
Lain's growth in popularity the past 2 years was kinda weird.

>The story itself doesn't hold much value today and was never that special or revolutionary to begin with
salty
the story has just as much value today as it did when it came out because it was a prediction that we can now see has come true
if you don't think that predicting almost perfectly what the future would become isn't special you might want to go back to school

I always liked the high rewatch potential of this show. Seems like there's always some detail I missed

>The story itself doesn't hold much value
Lain was so predictive and ahead of its time it's scary

>boring Umaru rip-off
No thank you.

I should rewatch lain

What the alien there to represent the slow seeping of the virtual world into the real one, as a fictional character passed a door/"gateway" so as to emerge in reality, but soon after vanish as quickly as it appeared? I never thought the alien itself was a hard to comprehend symbol, just that it was rather incongruous up until that point.

Also, is it possible to hold multiple semantic valences? As in, it can also represent the crossing of the Rubicon, a decision without any way back...as in, Lain, alienated increasingly more, reaching a point of no return in her dichotomic yet divergent from a single origin vectorization of development of her two instances of being, the virtual and the real one?

It's been quite a while since I've watvhed Lain, dunno if my second theory is in line with what the show presented us with up to that point, but still, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this matter.

Gosh, i've made so many mistakes and at points the sentence structure sounds really bad...guess this should be a lesson not to write so early in the morning.

Doesn't feel that impressive considering the internet and even hacker groups were a thing way before Lain came out.
It was playing around with a bunch of interesting concepts, but it never made a point out of predicting what things would be like in the and it never really did that.

A-Ri-Su. I think she said that somewhere around the beginning, perhaps shortly after being 'born'. Lain is seen as antisocial and distant, but where does that leave her creator. Though I don't always like being too literal with the show.

yeah at times it sounds like a word salad

>hey user lain predicted the future really well
>"b-but that doesn't count because of muh bullshit arbitrary reason"
I think you irrationally dislike the show for some reason

How did it predict future well?
It's just more trans-humanism/cyberpunk optimism shlock it does not reflect the true hopelessness of our dismal future.

What did it mean when Lain's father's glasses lighted up and reflected a white void? That shit tripped me out.

The future looks pretty bright for me, user.

gotta fit in a rewatch before 2018 comes, feels like i always forget what happens if i go too far between them.
starting to watch more anime now, and this was one of the first i hit a few years back.

>muh bullshit arbitrary reasons
>doesn't debunk said bullshit reasons
>quotation marks inside greentext
It's like some dude in the 90s saying that in the future everyone will own a phone and play video games. Amazing prediction, how did he know?

The middle of the show always felt a bit meh to me, but the later episodes are definitely great.

Then you're naive, or a member of the elite.

Well its in it a by itself the senticial acuity to the coronistic differences a so the near by the the societal prescience and the soschismal etience of the Lain at the time and her repenited thematics in the program Serial Experiments Lain.

Rather than aticience, it's at this point that there Lain the argument that she has it's an obscinial intenyx of anischeral taims...i mean, Lain, really it's has to antichronical baranores a pantomime at the ever-fallowing sincelhel as always a to Babylon.

It's been the first time I've ever just watched this show Lain, so these are my thoughts on your matters.

schizo word salad lain poster strikes again, simply the best

I believe you misunderstand core elements of the show itself.

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>Then you're naive
I've ended my hikkimori ways. A few years ago I've agreed with you.

We can also see it as a metaphor on every individual's will to be accepted and included, therefore having to create another persona to "be connected". The prediction would then be the inevitability of one's personality and individuality loss, where if your links get cut you become incomplete. I think it is pretty dystopian to not matter as you but as the network you create and dissolve.

The computer will inevitably lead to the destruction of individual liberty and total subjugation or annihilation of a significant portion of humanity.

I don't think I've ever seen many of those words, not even in my mother tongue...

Exactly this. But I think that subjugation can also happen out of the computer context (obviously it gets exacerbated and accelerated with them).

they're not real words

Is anything real tho

for the most part, it's incoherent schizo babble
they've been at it for 4/5 years now

there is no way this is the same person

>optimism
not particularly

the only reason why the world isn't utterly fucked at the end of the series is because Lain had one genuine friend who made her realize that she should just avoid interfering with humans and make everything like it was before she existed.

She realized that she was a mistake. Doesn't seem very optimistic about the potential of technology (and magic)

Maybe. Shit's bad, but not as bad as it was in the past. People have broken free of complete subjugation before, and I'd imagine they can do it again.

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Well according to SE:L, it'd take a literal miracle.

Has it gotten more popular? I thought it was always a pretty well known and well liked show.

>Shit's bad, but not as bad as it was in the past
Us, our parents, and maybe our children are the lucky ones. It will get worse eventually.
>People have broken free of complete subjugation before, and I'd imagine they can do it again.
Advanced computer systems, automation of force, and mass surveillance will make this almost impossible.

babby's first cryptic shit, a gateway drug in case you were interested in ABe shows

Yeah but it's been popular for that reason for years. People have used Lain's face for shitposting more often in recent years, but other than that I can't see how it suddenly got more popular than it already was.

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it's no longer 2004 user, you shouldn't be taking Lain for granted because even on Sup Forums people dont watch shit older than a couple of seasons

>because it was a prediction that we can now see has come true
It predicted that a megacorporation would figure out a way to tap into the spirit world by using children's psychic powers with magical microchips and shoehorning God into a homunculus who's mentally connected with a sentient computer and can communicate with the dead through radio waves and that a scientist who put his soul on the internet would try to hijack her in order to take over the world?

Really? I thought it was normal to watch older "classics" when first getting into anime and seasonal stuff being a little further down the rabbit hole, or it least it seemed that way when I got into it. Maybe times have changed.

times never changed, timeframe did

I got into anime around 2011 or so though, and Lain was still as well known. It's not the only anime from the 90s that's continued to be relevant through the years.

2011 was more than half a decade ago

I dunno, man, the while "scifi mystery thriller that turns out to be a supernatural shamanistic ghost story" trend was very much a late 80s/90s thing

now the closest we got is otaku-kun getting isekai'd into his computor geimu

close this world, open the next

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And Lain was already 13 years old. I think once an anime's been popular over a decade it's place is pretty well established.

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What did he mean by this?

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