Devilman Crybaby

So this will be out on NZ in 3 days?
Also Devilman thread

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But who is the crybaby?

Me.

Can't wait for more Yuasa goodness.

Nice colours

I just finished the original manga for this and it was pretty damn interesting. What other devilman spi-off should I check out now?

Me
After watching another original ending which isnt the ending of the manga

none

Devilman Lady

is the anime by C.J.Konaka good?

it's okay.

Who said it's going to be like that?

it's better than lain?
kek

Yuasa

Yuasa said it has the same feeeling of the original manga, but the story will be different

It will release at Japan time 17:00, and same time for every countries(eg: 00:00 in US west).

God damn, I really wanted the manga'd ending. Why the fuck is Japan so adamant to it?

afaik they never said the ending will be different.

I'm pretty sure he said that he would be sticking to the manga story very closely, only adding or changing a few things. I would be very surprised if he changed the ending, given that it's the single most iconic thing about the manga.

You guess.

CUTE!

So are people about this because its Devilman or because its a Yuasa show?

Devilman.

Couldn’t give a fuck if it was by yuasa or not

Both. But the main attraction is still that we're finally getting a full Devilman adaptation.

Both? I mean, a lot of people love devilman and a lot of people love Yuasa's style.

Translator-kun!! Can you look through that. It seems quite interesting but its a lot too so maybe look through it and pick up whatever sounds interesting to you.

kai-you.net/article/48693 it relates to this page devilman-crybaby.com/genealogy/

Devilman.
However I am happy Yuasa is at the helm.

Pseudointellectuals: either
9000 IQ ni️️as: both

He said it would be very close to the original story and that they'd be sticking to the main story beats as close as they can, only changes will be mostly just adding character scenes to flesh shit out more as well as some minor changes to events/introductions so they work better for the story ((like in the case of the acid tits girl, she's now a classmate at Akira's school rather than a random girl from somewhere else.

Here's the text if anyone wants to have a go.

手首：永井豪自身による作品群

他ならぬ作者本人である永井豪も原作漫画版『デビルマン』（1972〜）以降、このモチーフを展開し続けた。『デビルマン』終了後に連載を開始した『バイオレンスジャック』（1973〜）では物語の最後に『デビルマン』の続編であったことが明かされ、永井豪作品全体を有機的に結びつける試みが加速。さらに1997年より漫画雑誌『モーニング』に掲載された『デビルマンレディー』では主人公を女性とし、女性キャラクターによるフィジカルで直接的な暴力表現という潮流を作り出した。永井豪本人も、『デビルマン』というモチーフに取り憑かれた者の一人なのである。

親指腹：他作家によるデビルマン

『デビルマン』という作品世界の行間に、他の作家の想像力を滑り込ませる。そのような試みは何度か行われてきた。代表的なものが1999年から2000年にかけて刊行された『ネオデビルマン』である。ここでは永井豪本人の他、石川賢、岩明均、永野のりこ、安彦良和、寺田克也といった錚々たる面々による『デビルマン』のサイドストーリーが語られている。また、不動明と合体することでデビルマンとなったアモンを中心に、起こり得たかもしれない『デビルマン』の世界を語る『AMON デビルマン黙示録』（2000）など、他作家による『デビルマン』のリミックスは度々行われている。

I am watching it for Yuasa, I tried reading Devilman a bit after the announcement, but damn is it retarded.

Yuasa
Couldn’t give a fuck of Devilman

人差し指：ファンタジー的な世界観

異形の生物たちが殺し合い、その戦いの中で進化を続ける"という、デーモンたちの世界。人類登場以前のこの世界観を考証的に描いたという点も『デビルマン』の革新的な点だった。この設定や考証面の意識の高さから、『デビルマン』は国産ダークファンタジーの始祖と捉えることもできるだろう。この系統の直系としては、残虐な暴力性と異形へのこだわりに彩られた『ベルセルク』（1989〜）や『BASTARD!! -暗黒の破壊神-』（1988〜）がある。その影響は、近年でも『テラフォーマーズ』（2011〜）や『進撃の巨人』（2009〜）などの作品に見ることができる。

中指：現実の延長的にある異能

平凡な生活を送っていた主人公がなし崩し的に異形の者たちとの暴力的な戦いに巻き込まれ、いつしか現実世界自体が不可逆的な変化を遂げていく。今では定番のプロットとなったこの展開も、『デビルマン』によって一般的になったとも言える。代表的な作品では『バオー来訪者』（1984〜）や『寄生獣』（1988〜）などが、この要素を大きく発展させた作品である。また、近年では『亜人』（2012〜）や『東京喰種 トーキョーグール』（2011〜）などの作品にも、『デビルマン』から受け継がれた要素が見え隠れしている。学校など見慣れた風景を登場させ、読者も受け入れやすいこれらの作品群は、最も進化が目覚ましいジャンルだ。

Read the whole thing, dumbo. Yuasa wouldn't be adapting it if it was retarded.

薬指：聖書や神話、黙示録的なモチーフ

「悪魔と神」という極めて宗教的なモチーフに生物的かつSF的な設定を加えることで、価値観を逆転させた『デビルマン』。永井豪にとって重要な短編である『鬼-2889年の反乱-』（1970）、そして『魔王ダンテ』（1971〜）から見られたこの試みは、『デビルマン』に至ってついに完成した。宗教的モチーフを作品内に落とし込み、世界の終わりまでたどり着いたという点では、『新世紀エヴァンゲリオン』（1995〜）にも共通点が見られる。また「悪魔」という存在をダークヒーローとして捉え直し、主人公側に据えた作品としては『アクマイザー3』（1975〜）や、アメリカンコミックスの『スポーン』（1992〜）などがある。

小指：盟友・石川賢による作品群

永井豪のアシスタント出身で、かつ永井をして盟友と言わしめた漫画家・石川賢。『ゲッターロボ』シリーズ（1974〜）や『魔獣戦線』（1975〜）、『虚無戦記』（1999〜）などで知られ、激しいバイオレンス描写と末広がりなストーリー展開が持ち味である。石川は1968年に永井が設立したダイナミック・プロダクションに所属し、永井作品の共同原作などの形でも活躍。単なる師弟関係を超えて相互に影響を与え合った。それゆえに石川作品にも『デビルマン』の影響は見られる。肉体改造や融合というテーマを扱った『魔獣戦線』や、多数の自作を相互に結びつけて語り直す手法をとった『虚無戦記』には、特にその影響が色濃い。

Yuasa for me, never read Devilman

Secondaries.

Yuasa is a literal who compared to Nagai.

...

watching because Atsuhiro Iwakami is producing it

Both. Big fan of Devilman and Yuasa's direction and animation.

Because this guy voices Akira

>Aniplex

There are better directors out there who could have done a better job. This nu art style just sucks.

I'm only familiar with 2 Yuasa shows, but I love Devilman.

Pre-demon Akira is fucking adorable.

That being said, I feel like the whole "Man Akira you've really changed thing" will be stupidly funny since he's going to go from a pale spindly geek to a tanned chad looking fucker, at least in the manga the only thing that really changed that much were the eye outlines and his hair.

Where the fuck are the Italian translations of Devilman Grimoire and Saga? I was told they had them and I can read Italian better than moonrunes.

he's attached to good shit, mostly

>Atsuhiro Iwakami
>Dude responsible for SAO and the monogatari series
Why?

So Devilman is so big in japan that it gets a two page spread in one of the biggest newspapers in Japan on the first issue of the Year? Where is that one user who said Devilman wasnt a big deal?

twitter.com/DevilmanCryBaby/status/947710201519529984

Jun Kawagoe did a perfect recreation of the Jinmen scene in Cyborg 009 vs Devilman, In general, he did a fine job on Nagai / Ishikawa adaptations. (Getter Robo OVAs, Koutetsushin Jeeg, Mazinkaiser SKL etc)

Also Yoshitomo Yonetani who captured Dororon Enma-kun's jokes and artstyle perfectly to a T. Imagawa has a different directing style, and yet he still managed to make Shin Mazinger feel like Mazinger Z. All the manga scenes were recreated nearly perfectly. Masahiko Murata who did Mazinkaiser pretty well too all things considered.

Anno and Imaishi both did a good job on the Cutie Honey movie and OVA too. Mamoru Kanbe who did Demon Prince Enma (And also Elfen Lied) was okay too.

In fact, a lot of directors who worked on Nagai adaptations were all fine, but I'm pretty sure Dynamic Planning went with Yuasa purely for name recognition.

OH MY GOD *trap beat*

> Planning went with Yuasa purely for name recognition.

I don't know about that user, it seems to me like they genuinely just want to do a new take on the adaption, and Yuasa's style IMO seems like it WOULD be very fitting for devilman, at least when it comes to depicting the wild stuff like the demon battles, general action, and the trippy inner psychological stuff the characters go through.

>Yuasa's style IMO seems like it WOULD be very fitting for devilman,
Shin Mazinger had the closest artstyle to Nagai's 70s artwork. Enma-kun managed to both combine Nagai's retro art with the modern designs of the era to create something totally unique. Or even take a look at Cutie Honey Universe which again is pretty close to Nagai's original artwork with a modern touch.

I'm not feeling any of that with Yuasa's art, and his choice of character designer. Directing wise, Yuasa isn't that special. It's just his visuals that sell him.

They figured Devilman is the most critcially acclaimed work of Nagai, so they chose the most acclaimed and fitting director for it in return. Works like Kemonozume(sexuality), Kaiba(psychological) and ping pong(artistic and creative adaption) already showed that Yuasa had everything needed to make a great adaption, most likely the best current Director for this kind of work.
At this point I couldnt even imagine anyone else doing it apart from Anno, Shinbou Akiyuki, Ryūtarō Nakamura, Mitsuo Iso, maybe a newcomer like Tachikawa Yuzuru, some crazy shit from Urobutcher or Imaishi but thats about it. I mean name someone who you think would be a a better fit.

>I mean name someone who you think would be a a better fit.
Imagawa.

Name one if they are so readily available. There are probably not that many directors whose past works fit Devilman so well and who also have read Devilman when they were young and impressionable like Yuasa.

See

You already mentioned him and he also mostly does super robot stuff in the image of the 70s which is totally not what Devilman is about. Name someone else.

I'm not talking about what style looks technically closest to Nagai's work, I meant that Yuasa's dynamic style will fit the FEEL of an animated devilman adaption.

Obviously the point with Yuasa's adaption isn't to make it look like old devilman, he's doing devilman in his style and use it to emphasise and show devilman as it's own new thing in terms of visuals.

Fuck no

>Netflix

SJW trash confirmed, fuck Soros.

>We have secondaries who are just lazy to read 5 fucking books

>Yuasa is a literal who compared to Nagai.
Maybe in 80s
We're in 2018 now

None of them are better suited for it than Yuasa. Imagawa only directed super robot stuff and Imaishi isnt that suited that well for that material either. They are both more of mazinger types when it comes to directing. Anno would be great but he is busy. And the rest isnt even worth mentioning. Yuasa is one if not the the best choice they could have made.

>does super robot stuff in the image of the 70s which is totally not what Devilman is about. Name someone else.
No I won't. If you think Imagawa is about 70s super robot stuff, you're pretty much wrong. You're trusting a retarded English wikipedia article. Imagawa only directs giant robot shows recently because it's what people told him to do especially when he tutored under Tomino. But it's pretty damn clear going by his works are well above and beyond the mecha genre.

Go watch Tetsujin 28th 2004. It's the best anti-war animation I've ever watched, without ever feeling preachy like Grave of the Fireflies. Go watch Giant Robo, a masterpiece that makes an important point about the energy revolution.

Many who watched Shin Mazinger back then has been acclaiming him to do Devilman given that Nagai adaptation had a huge ton of references to Devilman. The style of directing and writing is pretty much on par with Devilman as well. It was all about a massive build up leading to complete deception for our main heroes.

the manga was so bad
only the ending was a big middle finger to the shonen genre
i dont really mind of Yuasa is gonna change the story

>Urobullshit
thank god he's nowhere near this anime.

>Imagawa only directed super robot stuff and Imaishi isnt that suited that well for that material either.
Bull fucking shit.

Imagawa did more than super robo stuff, and even then, his directing style and writing has nothing to do with what most super robot shows are about these days.

If you actually watched Shin Mazinger to the fullest, and all the other works I mentioned, the mecha is only a plot device in them.

Go watch Giant Robo and tell me straight to my face it's not the greatest OVA ever done in the history of anime. Even shit like LOGH can't compare to Imagawa's masterful direction.

Yuasa is fucking shit.

> Even shit like LOGH can't compare to Imagawa's masterful direction.

Imagawa is fine but none of his works as a director had much if any sexual content at all apart from fanservice and simple romance. Most of his directorial stuff has been super robot material which do feature anti war stances but Devilman is more than that.
I would say he would be a fine choice but in no way would he be the obviously superior choice compared to Yuasa. And as a whole his works dont compare to the creativity and talent Yuasa has but thats just my subjective opinion.

There was an interview with Yuasa saying that he wants to keep the iconic ending intact.

GET OUT

>Imagawa's
Imagawa Yoshimoto?

Pretty Yuasa said he'd try to keep it as close to the original as possible while still fleshing shit out a bit more and tweaking some story elements.

As it is, pretty sure that almost all the story beats will be the same, especially the ending.

Reminder that Ryou deserves all of his suffering

I don't really think anyone would argue otherwise.

He's sympathetic in some instances but overall he brought all this shit down on himself and he basically admits that he royally fucked up at the end.

Stop saying this
He never said " keep the iconic ending intact"
The reality is gonna hurt even more if you believe this.
He only said he "tried" to keep it as close to the original

Yasuhiro Imagawa is a descendant of the Imagawa clan. Even his kanji is the same.

Devilman is ultimately about deception and non trust worthy appearances. Which is what Imagawa did in his shows.

Baron Ashura betrayed Kouji and his friends the same way Ryo Asuka betrayed

If you can't see the parallel here, you can't be helped. Did you even watch Shin Mazinger? Because if you did, this is what Imagawa was implying all along even by referencing the Devilman manga but this time using Mazinger as his base.

>Devilman Saga
>Ryo still fucking up

By the way Yuasa and others talk about this production it's clear they very much respect devilman's story and wouldn't change something so absolutely crucial.

>And as a whole his works dont compare to the creativity and talent
Are you fucking kidding me?

Imagawa's writing and directing blow anything Yuasa has ever done out of the fucking water.

Giant Robo is great but most of those themes do stem from the original which is quite impressive considering how old it is. Felt like a hollywood movie with those production values. Shin Mazinger is a even more darker version of the original Mazinger manga.
But it still doesnt feel like Imagawa could depict these intimate human relationships with all the sexuality and the depravity of human kind in the same way Yuasa would. Though we are talking about a lot of hypotheticals here. Lets first see if crybaby is even any good.

There's nothing to Yuasa other than his cool visuals. Imagawa has the best storyboards, the best writing, and the best direction.In fact I'll cut my left nut off if Devilman Crybaby ends up being better than Shin Mazinger or Tetsujin 28th 2004 or Giant Robo. The first three episodes of Getter Armageddon were the best thing ever before he got kicked off the project.

I watched Kemonozume, and it was barely decent. Are you really telling me that a work like Kemonozume is even on par with Tetsujin 28th 2004 or what?

I dont think many people would agree. Not to mention that he never created anything original, he is merely aping the 70s style in a new coating. I love Giant robo though its cool.

>I'll cut my left nut off-
Even if it is better you're clearly infatuated with the mentioned series so the chances of you liking it as much is a bit too high of a bar.

>Imagawa could depict these intimate human relationships with all the sexuality and the depravity of human kind in the same way Yuasa would.
Pretty sure he can. He made the intersex villain the main character of Shin Mazinger. What other genius could have done that?

What part of 全世界独占配信スタート do you not understand?

>Not to mention that he never created anything original
That's actually wrong given he worked on anime like Zeta Gundam, Dunbine and Dougram which were all Sunrise originals.


What about 7 of 7? That was his own 100% cute original comedy. What about his work on Bartender?

Seriously, it's hard to deny this man's talent.

Do we really need daily threads? It hasn't aired yet.

You guys don't even know if it's going to be good or bad yet

Man, I like Imagawa, but I sure hope this guy doesn't shit up every Devilman thread from now on.

Even if that was the case that he didn't do anything "original", why does it matter? Devilman Crybaby isn't an original. It's an adaptation.

Not that user, but I can kind of see why Yuasa/team decided to update the style to be wholly more modern looking, seeing shit in Nagai's style animated nowadays looks super dated.

It's a beloved series and the anime is coming out in its entirety in like, four days, it's not really surprising some people are excited enough to keep making threads.

You would be too if you actually watched them. Imagawa subverted my expectations.

I watched Giant Robo for the fun robot action. Instead I got kung fu artists with superpowers fighting over batteries containing revolutionary energy.

I watched Shin Mazinger, again for the robot action. Instead, it was about family drama and one man/woman's redemption in front of the gods.

I watched Tetsujin 28th 2004, again for the robot action, and I got the most depressing post world war 2 anime in years.

Most people will recommend Lady. It's kind of underwhelming until about 6-7 volumes in, though.

Also there's rape. a LOT of rape. Like holy shit it touches the borderline of hardcore hentai with how much rape there is.

>Yuasa/team decided to update the style to be wholly more modern looking
Except it looks worse now.

Other directors have done a far better job at updating Nagai's 70s artstyle with great success.

>seeing shit in Nagai's style animated nowadays looks super dated.
Bunch of fucking normies. Fuck Netflix. Nagai's style is great. The modern anime look is cancerous and trash.

I didnt say he is not talented, how could I? I mean he is one of the best we have currently alive, but I did disagree with the statement that he is way better suited for Devilman . Like I said Giant robo is one of my favourites.

>normies
Bye