Kino's Decision

Why did she destroy an entire country?

they were all total losers

They deserved it.

I'm the original version, Kino proclaims a new law that the first-class citizens can fight each other until the last person standing becomes king, leading to chaos in the country but liberation for the second-class citizens.

In the new version, she makes everyone a target.

I suppose the citizens shouldn't have tolerated their evil king, but it's impossible to fight a whole country by yourself, so can we really say they're all individually to blame?

Watch it in the old ver. too

It's weird because normally Kino operates a 'Prime Directive' style policy, where she only intervenes to save life and limb. Or she takes no action and leaves a place mostly as she found it.

The new season's episode didn't showcase the lower class citizens to the degree the 2003 version did. So it would make sense to ignore them in the final statement since the distinction isn't that big of a deal.

But the methodology still stands. If all the citizens fight and the last one standing is king, what is he the king of? Absolutely nothing since everybody's dead.

Its pointing out the short-sightedness of man and the greed of the upper class citizens, or in this new season's show, the citizens of the country in general.

>inb4 too deep5me
Kino has always been baby's first philosophy/morality lesson with QT occasionally ancap kino.

oh yeah, that's how I always explain it to people. An episode of Kino's Journey will briefly explore a moral quandary or concept, not in considerable depth, but just enough to make you think. Which I have been doing in this case.

It's their choice to obey her.

This is the therapist dilemma though. If a psychiatrist who is treating a psychopath and knows they're a murderer and leaves them a gun, then shouldn't they be accountable for whatever harm comes next? She knew what she was doing and what the end result would end up being.

The country dicked on travellers, so she fucked their shit up.

That is true, she has destroyed the trap and therefore removed the risk to passing travellers. I didn't think of that angle - the greater greater good (not to the benefit of the town, but the world).

Furthermore, although the town will become a dangerous lawless zone, it will be difficult to hide, and none of the people in the town will be trying to hide it, so word of that situation will get out and people will all avoid the area from then on.

No, it's not "the greater good", just the benefit of travellers and also revenge for travellers, as she could have easily just made a law to exempt them from the tournament.
Kino isn't a moralfag.

Wut? She literally didn't do anything.
If I just randomly say to someone "kill yourself" and he does it, does it make me a killer?

Kinda...sorta...maybe?

Why does every country seem obsessed with being loyal to there country even if it means death.

If you make a law that says "kill yourself" then it kinda does.

kill yourself

Interesting. I'm not sure she has any particular loyalty to travellers. She could have made that law.

I guess we're back to the point from Is Kino a "moralfag". I think she's fairly ambivalent. She never does anything outright wrong or evil, but in this case she has definitely taken an extreme course of action.

It's also true that the King's son could have returned, taken the throne and cancelled Kino's new rule, but he also left the town and abandoned them to their fate.

>It's their choice to obey her.

I think for the purposes of this story, we are supposed to accept that the citizens are going to follow the new rule, although you are also correct. They are still humans and have the ability to make decisions. It is quite telling that there was no attempt to question her rule, the crowd immediately started killing each other, so perhaps there is no hope for them as a people.

I think it's pretty clear she's not a moralfag. She doesn't generally try to fix other people's problems or force them to Live Their Lives Correctly.
They made it pretty clear in every version I've seen that Kino was upset specifically by travellers being forced to participate. This despite being very confident in her skills, even before seeing her opponent. So yeah, I'd say she feels some loyalty towards travellers as a group.

I'm inclined to disagree. I think she's very wary of her limitations, she is only one girl. She never tries to over-extend herself and change entire societies, except for with the tournament. She does usually help people where possible. For example, she helped a woman fly her plane for the first time, she helped those guys with the snowed-in truck (who then tried to sell her into slavery), and when confronted with a gang of robbers, she kills one of them in self defence but allowed the others to flee rather than kill them too.

She often has opportunity to steal or kill and so on, but doesn't.

I think she does have a strong moral compass.

You might be right about the tournament hitting a nerve with her though, in this 2017 version, she appeared to sign up for the it willingly. Maybe she figured the gate guards wouldn't let her leave if she refused, but maybe she really wanted to stick it to them.

Is the new series good? The artstyle doesnt seem very good.

the art was never a selling point for this series.

The last episode of the new series was one of the most retarded things I've ever seen.

The animation is good, especially where she is driving Hermes. Also some of the backgrounds are quite impressive. This is especially compared to the original anime.

>The animation is good
Do you really want me to post the webm?

Go ahead, I don't know which one you mean, but I have enjoyed watching Kino drive around on her motorbike.

Also, Kino's Journey has never been about art style or animation for me. I am usually put off by more basic art/animation, but something about this series clicked with me. I find it quite relaxing to watch.

>I think she does have a strong moral compass.
Doesn't make her a moralfag. Contrast her with Shizu, who insists on trying to "fix" problems he encounters.
Or consider the Troublesome Country, where she is content to side with the moving country over the wall one out of convenience.

As I recall Hermes points out that she could have just shot the guards and left, and she says it didn't occur to her at the time.

Enjoy your quality animation then.

Who the fuck approved that? Also since when is Kino some kind of psychopath going on a rampage in a car?

The sheep cornered her and made her abandon Hermes.
It still was enjoyably dumb to watch that. Was that anime original or based on the novels?

I quite like the OP video, and the song is fine, but I do prefer the 2003 song.

I've just watched that one. The point of the story is that people inevitably clash with others just by living and moving around the world. The moving city can make the argument that their natural state is to move, and the other country has blocked all routes forward with their vast wall. The general fails to cooperate, but really the moving country should have just gone round the edge - after all, they're not in a hurry to be anywhere, right? It seems Kino really did keep her mouth shut to have a convenient ride through the militaristic country.

Also her action against the missile trucks was totally unjustified, she fired her rifle at people to protect a temporary painting.

No showers no life

Kino's naked body

The moving country DID give her a shower and they ended up alright. Good point.

The law died when the king died. His son should have taken the throne in stead of dooming a shipful of children and getting stabbed.

i dont like the remake of that episode, the 2003 version was way better and 2 episodes.

ask everyone in the military

This was the final straw for me and when I realized this Kino wasn't worth watching.

> she fired her rifle at people
She was confident she would not actually hit people, only hardware.

the old kino did the same

i dont understand why they changed so much about her anyway. i dont like the formfitting suit

the animation sucks, i hate this 3d-2d hybrid shit

It's still a risk, no one is perfect, everyone is fallible, and she was on a moving city firing at moving vehicles. I know she's good, but I also think she's lucky. Also, I wonder where she got her rifle from.

just watching the 3rd episode
tablets? really? in the remake there was a whole episode about a girl who just wants to fly and build the first plane in this world. in the remake they have tablets? and wall screens?
i am glad i watched the original first. very disappointing

Nigger the 2003 version had a fully-automated city with self-driving cars.

yeah but the technology was fitting the time, the computer in the company was massive. it didnt look like the new enterprise.
the tablet was just an ipad.

They had a whole country run itself and you're asspained about an ipad?

There is no consistent technological level in Kino, every country is different depending on what the story calls for.

Why did they destroy a good anime?

it just takes me out of this world which seems to be around 1920-30. this is just too advanced for me. in the original it was never that much. there is also an episode with very humanlike robots. that was fine with me because they dont looked like the androids in i,Robot

Did you honestly take a picture of your monitor? What kind of loser does that?

> flying saucers and 200" screens
Yeah, 30s sound about right

how worse is the dub?

[bleats agressively]

That's what I'll remember this mockery for. Angry sheep and the show actually playing it straight.

And regarding the OP, the old version's two-ep Colloseum was vastly superior.

'03niggers are so fucking stupid
>the robots and fully automated city really reminded me of the 1920's Europe I learned in history class, you know?

>'03niggers
How do you read that, "three niggers"?

in fallout it is set in the 50s and how they imagine the future, so a big laser pistol fits the setting.
here the automated city was designed to fit in the world. the moving country doesnt.

Todd plz learn your own IPs lore before making sequels next time.
Hint: nukes emp'd all transistors so in aticipation of that shortly before the war lamp consumer electronics were mass-produced.