Devilman Crybaby

Anime Ryo > manga Ryo
Anime Akira > manga Akira

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no.
my opinion > your opinion.

Manga Ryo > Anime Ryo
Anime Akira > Manga Akira

I am positive that people who read the manga agree with me.

So I still don't get it, what makes people turn into demons? Just at random? I guess Taro turned into one because he watched porn but is it really enough? Then the whole would turn into demons. Why Akira's dad turned into a demon if his parents were super humanistic altruists who were helping poor niggers all the time?

What makes Anime Akira better in your opinion?

I think manga is better for both characters because they have much more development.

> I guess Taro turned into one because he watched porn but is it really enough?
He became a fan of the Devilman TV show. He thought that merging with a demon was cool. Be careful what you wish for.

>Why Akira's dad turned into a demon if his parents were super humanistic altruists who were helping poor niggers all the time?
We don't really know much about them. They did leave their son with friends and called him only twice when he was in middle high. The altruistic human beings might have been a facade. Maybe dad joined one of the sex and drugs parties in whatever country at one point.

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Humans have a Devil-Gene. Essentially, all our Chromosomes and DNA don't belong to us, but rather are a combination of all demonic DNA from all demons in history.

A human that follows a certain personality trait and does something a particular demon would have done, will awaken that demon's string of DNA inside them, causing the shift in demon-hood and a merger of the human and devil personality.

This isn't explained at all in the first manga series, or this anime for that matter. You would only know about it if you read the sequels. I suppose as an horror manga, the writer originally chalked it up to standard demonic possession.

In the manga demons can possess people randomly.
In the anime it's not actually explained, the only thing Ryo does in the beginning is attracting them. Akira was possessed despite being a crybaby beta.

Why does Ryo show footage of him slashing people to the world when revealing that Akira is a demon

Anime Akira doesn't turn into an alpha prick just because he gattai'd with a demon, unlike what was shown in the manga. He gains demonic impulses, but he is still a goody-goody crybaby inside. It makes for a nice contrast.

Scientific shit doesn't suit this series at all.

Silene's mother > The other girls

I think that was ryo's bullshit to cultivate unrest among humans. There were demons before man, demons can just absorb/merge with entities so it's simply a question of what humans are susceptible to being infiltrated. Why taro was and why Akira's dad was I am not sure.

He is embarrassed about his frenzied facial expression.

I liked it, but I don't understand the point of the Demon's plan to shit and set fire to their own bed by exterminating all the Humans.
What was their plan once all the Humans were dead? To just go back to living in the jungle, fucking, fighting, and having to face the constant risk of dying over literally nothing at every possible waking minute?

They had wrestled control over the government, why the fuck didn't they just Illuminati themselves? What the fuck was the point? Is living in the bush and killing and dying as you please so much better than disguising yourself as a Human and obtaining wealth, fame, fortune, more food you could ever hope to hunt, and more women (and males) you could ever hope to willingly fuck, simply by being your physically superior demon self and just being good at trivial human things?

Shit doesn't add up, but I'm sure somebody who's read the Manga will come tell me otherwise.

>Akira was possessed despite being a crybaby beta.
I'm pretty sure literal Satan ordering Amon to possess Akira has something to do with it.

For what I got, you need to have potential for corruption. Akira was resentful and repressed already, Amon just unlocked what was already there but didn't have fuel.

>Is living in the bush and killing and dying as you please so much better than disguising yourself as a Human and obtaining wealth, fame, fortune, more food you could ever hope to hunt, and more women (and males) you could ever hope to willingly fuck, simply by being your physically superior demon self and just being good at trivial human things?

There was the scene of Devilman vs Syrene. Syrene offered her body to Devilman and Devilman went "FUCK NO! I want to fight!" and she completely agreed, and quelled her suspicions that her Devilman wasn't Devilman at all.

Demons are not Human. They're perfectly fine with fighting, killing, and fucking in the jungle. Civilization is withering to them.

He gulped down a strange pill which made him dizzy as well.

>What was their plan once all the Humans were dead? To just go back to living in the jungle, fucking, fighting, and having to face the constant risk of dying over literally nothing at every possible waking minute?
That's all demons want. Ryo even said that himself
>"Demons are pure in that way. "
Demons give in to their animalistic instincts because it's all they have. Fame, wealth and all these things mean nothing.

It's about free will. Demons are creatures of passion, it's why they Fall in the first place. Law and hierarchy are like poison to them.

Doesn't this just follow the plot of Mao Dante?
Basically, God has spread his essence around in humanity, after destroying the proto humans. Proto humans where strong enough to become Devils, stealing the essence God gave them, so he had to destroy all of them.
So if God has enough essence left, he can try to reset, but can't exterminate the devils in a proper fashion.
If God fails to revive, Devils can now revive Devildom without God being there.

If they weren't self-destructive, they wouldn't be demons, right?

Go watch Violet Evergarden

Both are better in the manga, especially Ryo.

What I want to know is why would they introduce Miko, an original girl, when they could've fucking expanded on Mikiko, who is actually in the series? Goddamnit they even removed her scene where she meets Akira and she's relieved to find a friend. Instead they just have one scene with her spraying vagoo acid

Is it true?

He was, until Shin Violence Jack revealed he was actually Amon. Sylene gets her happy ending.

Who's this supposed to be?

The Devilmen and the main demons in general had scarce screen time when their designs and oddities were what made Nagai a pioneer, and the story so fresh and interesting for me.

Pig head on a bull head. Must be Miyazaki.

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The ovas are fucking brutal, is the original anime serie like that too?
I havent watched the new anime..

Are there any manga spinoffs that are actually good? I'm reading Devilman Lady and it's pretty dull apart from the porn factor.

After watching Crybaby without seeing anything about Devilman before i got really hooked and read the original manga of it .
I have to say that the manga is a lot better than I expected. Especially since its freaking 50 year old.
Heads of to Go Nagai but I now wish that the anime had taken more inspiration from the manga especially for some of the characters.
Manga Ryo makes a lot more sense in his actions than crybaby and manga Akira questions Ryo a lot which I loved unlike crybaby who was literally like a dog.
Only character that i found better was Miki. Manga miki is a huge slut.

Strong intense emotions. Seems to be based on Devilman Lady and how it did possessions.

Kaim only possesses people who feel intense love for another. Not lust. Sirene possesses a narcissistic lesbian stalker lusting for Devilman Lady. Like she used to do to Akira.

He also saw Kodas rampage and thought it was awesome.

Only watch and read original devil man. New devil man is fucking garbage.

The drawings are more abstract, more minimalistic, and less cartoonish than the ovas, but the mood of the whole thing (direction, colors, etc) is way more realistic and brutal. It's a different kind of brutal I guess.

This. Manga Ryo is more sympathetic and more of a madman. Anime Akira is cuter and more pure-hearted.

Ryo being around is also why he never gets consumed by Amon too. Which happened in the 70s anime and Grimoire. But Miki didn't care in that one as long as she fucked a demon using his body.

In Lady Ryo Utsugi is just the reincarnation of Dante who wrote the Divine Comedy. Zenon uses him as a meatsuit.

Medusa is real, but the idea is more humans naturally evolve into demons eventually.

Ryo is such a cuck.

Violence Jack

Yes, also anime Miki > manga Miki. Actually every character was better in the anime.

>Manga Ryo makes a lot more sense in his actions than crybaby and manga Akira questions Ryo a lot which I loved unlike crybaby who was literally like a dog.
Yeah, that was biggest flaw in crybaby. MC with your average Jesus-tier holiness (the whole "he never cries for himself, only for others" "kill me but don't touch them") would never be friends with an absolute psycho like Ryo. Akira was okay with Ryo killing people at sabbath, annoyed but was still hanging out with him after Ryo killed hundreds of kids on track and field and thousands in the whole devilhunt chaos. That's out of character as fuck

'Just like my cartoons!' Fitting.

Miki is a slut, while Ryo the one who loves Akira for who he is. That is why she is killed off and Ryo us turned into satan who is literally made to be the most beautiful being ever made completely devoted to the mc. Miki and Siren lust after devilman/amon not Akira.

>Anime Akira is cuter and more pure-hearted
Chad moe. Are we seeing the birth of a new trend?

>Manga miki is a huge slut.
Are you saying anime miki wasn't a huge slut?
>hanging out and letting some shady guy take her almost nude photos
>coming to his studio late at night because he asked her to do it

Anime Miki had more time devoted to her, at least.

>Akira was okay with Ryo killing people at sabbath
He wasn't killing them, just hurting them so they would bleed. And he wasn't okay, since he tried to stop Ryo.

>after Ryo killed hundreds of kids on track and field and thousands in the whole devilhunt chaos
People getting stomped was an accident. Guess they couldn't run fast enough.

What the fuck happened to the 7th fleet and to that giant blinding ball of godly light that made all the demons shit their pants?

She was too trusting.

anime miki liked akira for who he was and i really likes the tweeting sequence. Her death in the anime also left a bigger impact than the one in the manga and justified Akira's hatred against Satan later on . manga miki was only interested in akira because he became a chad

>What the fuck happened to the 7th fleet
The humans were spared, the devils were killed.

Slum King was Xenon, so was like 2 of the many guys who wanted to fuck Jun senseless, reminder he is the biggest cuck of Devilman franchise because Satan would NEVER not love Akira. EVER.
Also the demons in one scene in the manga stated they had Satan orders to not hurt Devilman even before Ryo got his memories back, this means the demons who attacked him were following Xenon commands.

Does it matter? They still died in the Apocalypse.

Right but why didn't God do that for the rest of the earth? Did the glowing ball persist? It almost looked like it was covering up the USA to me.

I just don't get the deus ex machina to save them only to let them die in the end. Maybe God decided "Shits fucked I'll savescum when it's over"?

The best part is that he didn't realize how shitty it would actually be to turn into a voracious and hungry, man eating Devilman. He doesn't even get to be cool.

People she's fucked:
Ryo
Amon
Her brothers reincarnation as Jun Fudous younger brother in Lady.

Fuck no. Akira is an idiot in Crybaby.

God only intervened because nuclear war would have ended the game right then and there.

God wants it to continue. He doesn't want it to stop.

Zenon and his plans would have fucked up Gods plan.

Manga Akira stops hating Satan when he sees him cry while he dies and calls him Ryo again. Miki triggered the battle but a large chunk of the reason Akira fought was because of losing Ryo. He didnt realize it until the end. His silent attemp to ask him if he is ok because he is crying was literally his dying thoughts.

Alright that's true. Game stops then and there and Satan doesn't get to suffer anguish with victory tasting like ashes in his mouth from Akira being kill.

Him and Satan used to fuse a lot in the past but since meeting Akira they don't do it anymore unless Satan punishes himself. So he gots non consensual pity fusion.

You could not have worse taste.

I could prefer the manga. QED

What is this from?

>pure waifu Miki > fun, occasionally horny, and sexually liberated Miki
God you have shit taste

so in the end, what is it that turns people into demons?

>People getting stomped was an accident. Guess they couldn't run fast enough.
No, Ryo closed the gates on purpose to let people get slaughtered on his livestream

The Shin Megami Tensei IV: Demonic Gene.

Just strong emotions normally. Zenon makes possession way easier for all demons when incarnated though.

>right but why didn't God do that for the rest of the earth?
Maybe God thinks the demons using human power, nuclear power, against them was cheating.

Is this chart correct?

Jinmen.

Oh look
Its my favorite post apopalyptic gore OVA!

He's trying to trick people into thinking akira is the one who was slashing people.

No Violence Jack is a what if crossover. An Alternate Dimension tale.

Devilman Lady Akira has been in Hell since Devilmans ending.

No. Violence Jack and Devilman Lady are not connected.

So, if I wanted to read in order, it should be
Mao Dante --> Devilman --> Devilman Lady --> Akuma Kishi?

Violence Jack works too as an Amon/Syren route end. Jack was revealed to be Amon in Shin.

That's what makes him so endearing.

I assumed in the show that initially only Sabbath parties/bloodshed/general degeneracy bring about demonic possessions, but as more devils crossed over, the veil got weaker and humans got easier and easier to possess.

Just finished it last night but
>Akira Gatsu
>Ryo Griffith

Truly if your bff is a white haired androgynous guy you are in for trouble.

If that's supposed to be Sirene she's in hell too in Lady. Even has character developemet.

Yes, and?

No way. Akira never dyed his hair blond.

>Jack was revealed to be Amon in Shin.
Didn't this happen in Violence Jack as well?

Akuma Kishi is also an alternate dimension. Angels are all showed to be herms in Devilman prologue and this us different in Kishi. But is perfectly valid as au/reboot, like Devilman WAS of Maou Dante. Devilman Saga seems to be set after Kishi. I suspect Go wanted to give the girls a happy ending each, so Syren gets Amon/Jack in SVJ, Satan gets her happy ending in the sequel Devilman Lady, and Miki will get her Akira (or is it) in the reboot Saga.

>Anime Ryo > manga Ryo
wrong

Mao Dante has characters in it in Devilman, but its not an exact copy. Ryo Utsugi is just Dante the humans reincarnation and Xenons meatsuit.

Medusa and the greek gods come from the previous world before demons and Devilman and Ladys worlds.

Ill give Kishi some credit. Amon being part dragon is great. Wish there was some osl in there too.

Saga and Kishi are the most sci fi so far too which makes the connection stronger.

Amon: The Darkside of Devilman

What does demon blood taste like? Since it's yellow it MUST have sulfur, so rotten eggs? Yes, sulfur is usually yellow in color, it burns in a blueish hue.

Was hinted, Satan was mistaken and Amon took advange.
Well, aus. Herione in Shin.

Miki will probobaly end up fucking Amon again. Third times the charm!

Ah ok, I thought that akuma kishi and devilman saga were the same thing.

Go always writes one shots as preludes, like he did in Lady. I wonder if that is indeed Akira and wont end up being An humanized Amon.