If you're still debating powerlevels/powerscaling, fuck off. Why fuck off? If the producer of the god damned show doesn't care about consistency, then that's it, it's done. The arguments are fucking dead.
Is SSB Goku holding back? Against Krillin? Yeah, it's obvious Krillin can't hold his own against Base Goku alone, this was already proven.
Is SSB Goku holding back against 17? Fuck no. It's obvious with all the Hype they had around 17, they intended for him to be near that level. This SSB Goku which went through hell and earth against Goku Black and Zamasu, fought a God-Level version of his race's killer, and has even fought a God Of Destruction and lived to tell the tale, struggled against a park ranger.
Quit arguing it, quit acting as if you can PROVE anything about ANYONE anymore. The shit I said about Krillin?? I could be fucking WRONG. If the producer doesn't care at all then obviously neither should you. Arguing endlessly is pointless.
Protip: Nobody is forcing you to watch the show. It may suck now, but if it stresses y'all out to the point where you have to blow up countless threads full of the same, spiteful shit; """""grown adults""""" who can't handle cartoons? Then you should stop watching it, seriously.
I myself am loving it, because I also don't give a shit what happens as long as it's cool as fuck. (Of course I, nor anyone wants anymore extreme situations like the ones we've had, especially if they're poorly animated or written as bad or worse.)
tl;dr: Literally nothing you debate about DBS powerscaling issues can be proven. So stop wasting hours trying to prove random anons on Sup Forums wrong when they can easily just fucking ignore you, lol.
Basically, read the manga if you're an autistic powerlevelfag and watch the show if you enjoy fun. Basically what I've been saying for months.
Nathaniel Allen
MSSB Goku vs Hyper Blue Vegeta
Who wins?
Jonathan Hughes
>be me >spic >kids talking loudly near my house >they're talking about dragon ball >kid says he thinks gohan's going to lose >everyone agrees Non-spics will never experience these hilarious moments.
Gavin Richardson
Will Gohans episode look good next week? Or will he look like a complete pile of shit when he gets eliminated?
Jose Ward
Can't wait for the next episode lads.
Chase Diaz
>trumpcuck back to Sup Forums with you, they love kike lapdogs there.
Leo Johnson
All these new transformations are shit, tori is just rolling some dice to decide what color the next super sayan transformation will be
This time it hit blue again
Robert Hill
POPULAR OPINION:
Vegeta's newest transformation is the WORST transformation EVER in the HISTORY of dragon ball. WORSE THAN SSJ3.
>shit animation >no back story whatsoever >trigger was CABBA and not protection of his family >IS LITERALLY BLUER
WHAT TRASH
Alexander Peterson
Nah, SSJ Rage Trunks is worse. And Ultimate Gohan is lazier/more asspully Also UI is shit and the biggest asspull in Dragon Ball
Caleb Parker
SSB KK Goku >he now has a red aura around his blue aura >looks the exact same >trigger was being an autistic retard
Lincoln Ward
It's clear that 17 isn't anywhere near as powerful as Goku was in their scuffle. He's done much more poorly against Toppo, for example.
Cooper Phillips
at least UI had some nice animation and music.
SSJ rage is fucking stupid as well.
Why is super so shitty? fuck.
Blake Mitchell
why did vegeta get a snowflake transformation instead of UI?
Caleb Rogers
I imagine Vegetas new form will look better and have better animation in the next few episodes if they have better animators working on the eps
Nicholas Morris
GODku was holding back against 17 though
Carson Wood
The problem this week was the holidays interrupting the production.
Bentley Cox
Imagine watching something you don't like through 123 episodes and counting.
Matthew Hughes
Catch a DBS non-watcher up here, user friends. What's been happening and what's this about Vegeta's SSB being bluer?
Adam Wood
>trigger was being an autistic retard Fucking what? SSBKK had no trigger it was focusing your Ki dumb jobgetafag
James Foster
Surpass Even a God! Vegeta's Life-Risking Blow
>After Toppo becomes the new God of Destruction for Universe 11, 17 is swiftly eliminated and turns his attention to Vegeta >Vegeta struggles to hold off GoD Toppo >in order to beat him, Vegeta uses his ultimate technique the "Final Explosion" >this kamikaze technique eliminates Toppo but it seems Vegeta did not survive the blast and has disintegrated out of existence >but then, a light appears and Vegeta surfaces with black hair and silver eyes
SCREENCAP THIS.
Parker Nguyen
The Super anime is the opposite of fun.
Nathan Murphy
>anime >fun
Only pedros think the anime is fun
Jacob Wilson
Trigger was training and preparation you stupid fuck
Ethan Peterson
Kaioken is not a form you absolute retard
Elijah Thompson
Fuck off vegetard.
Julian Thompson
What's the advantage to Super Daiyan God (red) over SS3 or Blue? Besides being able to hide your ki from mortals I guess.
Jonathan Johnson
>UI Vegeta
Not happening until next arc
Julian Nguyen
No I can't take this bros.. this can't be the way it ends, GODhan can't dissapoint me like this
Camden Morris
>Fuckgetafags
Anthony Collins
nu-males
Jayden Parker
it's stronger than SS3 without using as much stamina it uses less stamina than Blue, but weaker
Hunter Butler
Goku had echo-voice whilst in UI mode. One was granny, but the other was male. Anyone know who the VA was?
Fair enough, thanks
John Robinson
*blocks your path*
Nicholas Miller
pretty sure it was just the oozaru voice
Anthony James
yeah, maybe. thanks again
Blake Thompson
Because Vegeta sucks and everyone knows it
Asher Ward
He looks so fucking gay, what the fuck is Toei thinking?
Aaron Fisher
Jippo vs Friehan / Frieku when?
Caleb Wilson
Suprised so many people don't like it. It's like a blend between God and Blue (god eyes with god sparkles and blue hair and blue aura). What's wrong with it? I think it looks fine on him and it looks better than UI Goku
Oliver Nelson
>Anime >it looks pretty >also it's a little stronger than SS3
>Manga >It's a lot stronger than SS3 and doesn't consume a lot of energy like that form, so it's a better option >SSB burns a lot of stamina (And CSSB fucks your body if you haven't mastered it) and SSG doesn't
James Hernandez
he's so kawaii!!!
Isaac Gray
When does Yamcha join in?
Elijah Hill
>dragon ball fanbase >surprised that everyone is bitching about something n-nandato!?
Jonathan Lewis
It's a complete asspull
Blake Reyes
>and it looks better than UI Goku nigga fuck off
Sebastian Morgan
Well, 17 is a vegan tho
Jose Morales
Every transformation is a complete asspull
UI came out of fucking nowhere. How does falling into a spirit bomb give you a powerup that GoDs, who have trained for millions of years, can't obtain?
Hudson Murphy
>and it looks better than ui goku lmao
Anthony Garcia
UI was mentioned in Battle of the Gods movie.
Isaiah Morris
The Super anime is way more fun then the goddamn manga just by virtue of having voice acting and music. Now that the dub is on the Black arc, it's gonna be like watching two new episodes a week.
Jose Scott
Jiren will win
Joseph Mitchell
Holy fuck epic dude. It was mentioned in a movie so now it makes complete for Goku to unlock an Angel-level transformation after he slipped into a spirit bomb.
these threads are so fucking insufferable, braindead gokufag patrols
Jose Flores
>Gohan's Last Stand Ohhhhh noooooonononoooo
Justin Rodriguez
Krillin and 18 are gone as well
Jaxson Sullivan
Whis said he and Vegeta were capable of it, so it's only angel level in that they already knew it at the start of the series.
Isaiah Ross
Why do they look so goddamn kawaii?
Eli Reyes
When will you learn how to ignore and report this faggot so the threads can have actual discussion?
Leo Butler
HE JOBBED TO WOOD
Jaxson Bell
Unbelievable how the presence of one guy can fuck the entire thread over.
Andrew Morales
>be a God of Destruction >be millions of years old >have your Angels train you for your entire life >after thousands upon millions of years of training, you are finally getting close to obtaining "Ultra Instinct", something only Angels are capable of
>be Goku >fall into a spirit bomb >5 seconds later you unlock Ultra Instinct >Ultra Instinct disappears >2 mins later get beat up by a retarded monkey girl >enter Ultra instinct again
Jace Thomas
Because Goku trained and the entire ToP had Goku taking hits by letting his guard down so his body could begin to fight on instinct.
Tyler Green
>Gohan beaten beyond belief >Makes himself stand up >He starts glowing a familiar color >This plays youtube.com/watch?v=DolWl-MqVGA
Thomas Diaz
The form being mentioned doesn't make the method by which it was obtained, which was never ever foreshadowed by the way, any less of an asspull.
Blake Lopez
Kale was able to match Goku Blue on literally her second time being a super saiyan
Oh my god, it wasn't a meme. The absolute state of toeipablos
Ayden Campbell
Sure, but so is everything so don't act like it's uniquely retarded that he got UI like that
Nathaniel Anderson
This
Jiren will stop being such a arrogant asshole when an Angel tier fusion appears in front of him ready to fuck his cocky face
Carter Nguyen
What else is it supposed to be? A well written story? Where fuck do you think you are?
Alexander Mitchell
It's a medium of entertainment.
Daniel Perez
Are Toeishills too retarded to play music and read at the same time?
Brandon Perry
No, Jiren will still win
Easton Russell
Jiren isn't arrogant. You're just mad your precious heroes are getting BTFO despite five hundred asspulls.
Evan Nelson
Not him but >Every transformation is a complete asspull
It's literally the first thing he said
Dominic Jones
He also said UI came out of nowhere, which it didn't
David Diaz
I want Jiren to fuck my wife
Adam White
Matt, stop posting.
Zachary Wright
Why is that pic so hot? Is their more?
Jacob Butler
Unless your wife is an Angel, I doubt she could handle the JD
Nicholas Ward
Was "Warrior, Sleep" an insult or a compliment?
I've seen some state that it was actually respect from Jiren by stating he was a true warrior, while others say it was an insult that he didn't use Vegeta's name (and that the supreme Kai of u11 was just lightening the blow)
Xavier Morgan
He went from saying Vegeta's pride was a joke to calling him a warrior. I think he gained a small, small amount of respect for Vegeta.
Mason Smith
Soon
Hudson Jones
b-but they said KEKhan has the strongest power of all so why's he jobbing
Cameron Davis
Even if she dies, she'd be living a better life. Jiren is the only man who I'd allow to cuck me without protest.
I'm sure he can hold back. He's just that good.
Angel Williams
>Cell Dorado
Cameron Kelly
Cell has been reincarnated
Jace Kelly
Girls are cute when you throw water at them.
Kevin Allen
He kind of is, though? Not all the time he switches between arrogant and noble it's confusing
Nolan Butler
>can't even have one thread without caulifags and gohanfags baiting each other
Brandon Campbell
...
Andrew Cook
Because it's Caulifa fused with best girl.
Wyatt Myers
He can't defeat Gogeta, retard. >You're just mad your precious heroes are getting BTFO despite five hundred asspulls
Actually I am, it's fucking retarded that Goku AND EVEN VEGETA got new transformations and still can't beat this shit designed asshole. Thankfully that's going to change when Gogeta comes back ready to fucking murder that faggot and make him disappear like he did with Janemba
Jaxon Rivera
Does Jiren fuck it?
Ethan Ramirez
If you're referring to the MasakoX video where he said it was an insult, don't pay attention to that cunt. He has no idea what he's talking about and is a trash tier Youtuber.
Watch MastareFusion and AnimeAjay if you need to watch someone