So this is where Parasyte was inspired from
So this is where Parasyte was inspired from
Kabuto koji is looking a bit wild today
Are there rape scenes in this manga?
Miki in crybaby? Sure.
Miki in the manga is hot trash and was glad she died
no but devilman lady does
I wish Devilman had the luck to get the Parasyte treatment for its remake (2 cour, high budget) and not the 10 episode netflix memeshit we got.
>2 cour for fucking 5 volumes
What are you smoking? The amount of filler they would have to add would be ridiculous
Miki in the manga was inspired by a Nagai's crush... pretty sure he was still a virgin at that time
only demons slaughtering children?
Nigger you're high
Devilman Manga only had 6 chapters
10 episode were enough. Yuasa just missed the point.
You can tell it to him on the AMA on reddit on 20th Jan
YOU ARE IZUMI SHINICHI KUN RIGHT
The worst thing about this is that i can hear the shitty VA's voice every time i read that
Kana Hanazawa is perfect!
Too bad she's married
Crybaby's legitimately an improvement over the manga. The manga's just about a fag in the closet and the fag who wants booty throwing shitfits at each other while every else suffers. The real moral of the story is that gays are terrible, selfish people who'd sooner ruin the world because they're filled with lust but Nagai insists it was about war being bad. Crybaby is more cohesive and well presented even if there are some useless characters, though you can't complain about that in comparison to the manga where literally no one other than Akira and Ryo had any significance at all.
So, Parasyte was the atheist version of Devilman?
WATTTTTTTTT? She's like...28!
She's a relation with a dude
Height: 170 cm
Weight: 50 kg
Manga is about war, stipidity of the masses, mad science
Anime is about rabu and friendship...
>The real moral of the story is that gays are terrible, selfish people who'd sooner ruin the world because they're filled with lust but Nagai insists it was about war being bad.
finally an user get it
>Manga is about war, stipidity of the masses, mad science
Seriously dude? It was more like "don't make weapons because demons will take you over and use them against you". And humans didn't even lose their shit until demons started fucking SUICIDE POSSESSING humans in broad daylight and waged war against humans around the globe by the thousands. The demons are literally the ones that launch nukes in the manga and Russia's PM is even a fucking demon saying he wants all out nuclear war and launched nukes at countries all over the world only for God to step in at the LAST minute and then turn all of fucking Moscow to salt.
If anything Crybaby had more nuance about humans destroying themselves. In the manga the devils are pretty much responsible for everything bad including driving humans to the point of absolute insanity.
If anything, Miki in the manga is more believable than Miki in crybaby.
Miki in crybaby is like some kind of fucking christ figure with how perfect and magnanimous she is, she reacts to every situation so predictably and even-handed that I felt no connection to her at all. In Crybaby, Miki's death is treated like this tragedy that was destined to happen because "she's too good for this world" (see the part where she gets all the hate comments on her social media post appealing to human decency). The part where she imagines herself running in the relay race and she lets out a B-movie scream as a knife is pulled down her back, tragically just seconds before she hands off the baton was so incredibly melodramatic that I wanted to stop watching. In the manga Miki isn't even a particularly good person (or a good friend to Akira), but she seems like an actual person as opposed to a sympathy idol.
Devilman is shit. Only hipsters like it because ""muh old manga is better"".
More like it inspired almost everything and people constantly rip it off.
fuck off pablo
I like manga Miki better because she actually attempted to defend herself and set a nigga on fire.
Pioneer =/= good.
Dragon Quest invented all the jrpg tropes but Final Fantasy is the one who's successful.
yeah so did FoTNS but only gay people like that boring repetitive trash
devilman is good and you're just pedro having a fit
wrong opinion carlos
Dragon Quest is still good tho.
Dragon Quest is still an ongoing series. The fuck are you even talking about?
too bad the only good Devilman sequel/spin off is Devilman Neo.
>brazenly committing suicide to indiscriminately kill your enemies and civilians, inspiring mass fear and panic
have you ever heard the word 'kamikaze'? How about 'terrorism'? The manga used the demons' forceful takeover of Earth to demonstrate the fragility of human society in wartime. Ryo even spells it out just pages before the panic really sets in.
>the demons are responsible for everything bad
The whole point of the manga's ending was that the demons and humans are the same, since the demons have no more of a claim to the earth than the angels did when they tried to eradicate the demons. So the demons' war on humanity is no different from a war between two factions of humanity and can be seen as a commentary on war as a whole. This is called 'allegory'.
>crybaby is nuanced in how it shows humans destroying themselves
Bullshit. Remember when Akira returns home, finds Miki dead, and calls the humans the real demons? That scene made sense in the manga, but don't you think that in crybaby that kinda conflicts with the message of the scene from only minutes before where the humans realize the errors of their ways and line up to hug devilman one by one? Crybaby strings together scenes that reference the manga with its own retarded dogshit spliced in between.
No one outside of Japan knows what dq is besides weebs and rpgfags. Final Fantasy is something even normalfags know.
>have you ever heard the word 'kamikaze'? How about 'terrorism'?
There's a difference between humans blowing themselves up and fucking supernatural creatures possessing humans. The supernatural is a primal fear in humans, religions and myths being among the first creative ideas that cropped up in human civilizations. Nagai's a fucking moron for daring to compare the two and more so when most societies deal with those problems without slaughtering their own people en masse to the point of extinction.
>The whole point of the manga's ending was that the demons and humans are the same, since the demons have no more of a claim to the earth than the angels did when they tried to eradicate the demons. So the demons' war on humanity is no different from a war between two factions of humanity and can be seen as a commentary on war as a whole. This is called 'allegory'.
No, they're not. Humans never got to the "let's genocide these innocent beings" phase like the demons did. If you want to include spinoffs and extra lore then the demons were bloodthirsty monsters who spent their entire lives slaughtering each other and came up with fusing as a mechanism to become better killers in their daily lives. It's a far cry from military powers gathering power to defend themselves from aggression. Even the Japs, fucked up as they were, weren't as wantonly and blatantly blood thirsty as demons were going so far as to kill each other by nature.
so ff is good because it's known by normalfags?
Murano was inspired by Miki?
God no wonder she was such an annoying little bitch.
>Bullshit. Remember when Akira returns home, finds Miki dead, and calls the humans the real demons? That scene made sense in the ma
No it didn't. And it's good that Crybaby basically revised Akira's entire motivation for fighting in the end. Akira in the manga is just a butthurt psychopath who decides "Miki's the only good person around", yeah, never mind everyone else you ever knew to be good or even your OWN FUCKING DEVILMAN, MAN AS IN HUMAN HEART, ALLIES. I'd call it fun but the manga is hot trash that has the moral sensibilities of a trash b-horror movie. How anyone can unironically call it good is completely beyond me and your obnoxious fanboys are just bringing its embarassing mediocrity to light. The devilman army itself is fucking proof that humans are still inherently good, and Akira even says the guys that killed Miki's mom and dad had human bodies but were devils on the inside. He's clearly capable of making the distinction between human = good, devil = bad, but then in the next scene he just decides all humans are bad because his childhood (sort of) friend got killed and then does shit all for 20 years. The manga basically destroys all meaning to the devilman army with that scene, their human heart has no value at all since "oh well humans are the same as demons anyway". Some humans went batshit insane and now there's nothing worth fighting for oh boohoo. Akira in the manga isn't just a hypocrite he's a dumb sack of shit.
Crybaby made the right call by having him gather his army in time to help defend the last human stronghold even if the Miki death was super melodramatic. The human heart is still valuable and not just some brief mention that's instantly destroyed by the manga's rhetoric in the same chapter. And the devilmans' sacrifices to help Akira just highlight the fact that it's humans' goodness that's driving the devilman and not just a pointless battle purely out of who's army is better dick stroking and closeted homoerotic rage.
At the end of the day studios don't give a fuck who buys their shit as long as lots are buying it.
Oh and right before the battle Zenon and Satan literally talk about how Satan knew the human heart inside and out and how to manipulate them to destroy themselves.
Are humans dumb and easily frenzied? Yeah, so are common house pets. Is it even remotely conceivable to come to the conclusion that because some of them went batshit insane after demons tried to destroy the entire world with nukes mean that humanity as a whole is no better than demons? No, that doesn't make any fucking sense at all. Abused dogs don't lash out at people because dogs are evil, they do it because they're broken and fucked up mentally, often trained to attack by their superiors (demons). And that hierarchy is basically established in one of the earlier chapters where Akira's friend talks about things that prey on humans or w/e and Akira's goes "demons!"
If there's any point to be made it's not that humans are degenerates for being warloving psychopaths that are like demons it's that the demons were made so evil because of what God did to them. Except for the fact that the demons actually pushed God back from Earth the first time. And also the fact that the lore establishes that demons are so blood thirsty they evolved solely to do battle. Meanwhile humans established... Weapons yes, and also world wide humanitarian efforts, advanced medicine, welfare systems, technology to fucking help people? And all sorts of technology that aids altruism.
So wha's your point? Devilman Crybaby is successful too.
Violence Jack too.
>Oh and right before the battle Zenon and Satan literally talk about how Satan knew the human heart inside and out and how to manipulate them to destroy themselves.
Because Satan became human and understood the darkness and fragility of the human heart well.
>Crybaby's legitimately an improvement over the manga.
>No, they're not. Humans never got to the "let's genocide these innocent beings" phase like the demons did.
Except humans do that all the fucking time. In what world do you fucking live? The way Akira discovers the demon hunter torture facilities here are a shot out to all the clandestine torture centers during dirty wars and wars. THIS WAS ALL BY HUMANS. Miki's parents were tortured to death and hanged like animals in these centers in the manga. Akira realizes humans are worse than demons after this point.
The only truly sadistic demon was Jinmen, the rest were more proud warrior guys types who acted on impulsives, but this careful cold-blooded torture is only something humans are capable of. Don't forget that to put his plan in motion, Satan had to fucking get a human heart to discover what they can do and their weakness.
>Because Satan became human and understood the darkness and fragility of the human heart well.
And it was his angel/demon side that wanted to take advantage of it to kill them all. It's the story of Job, whom the devil tormented in an attempt to break his faith (which was the equivalent of goodness in the culture the Bible of was written). Under critical examination, if the devil torments you to the point of being driven insane does that mean you're inherently evil?
I don't understand how anyone can think that humans were just as bad as demons. Even if you were to suggest that they might in the future be as bad they never get the chance because Satan did a better job genociding the humans than God did the demons. If there's anything to take away from the ending it's that perhaps demons might not have been so evil once and were driven to madness like humans.
I truly miss those sideburns!
You're not understanding, Satan went off rails because he became human and got their faults.
>I don't understand how anyone can think that humans were just as bad as demons.
Because it was right there that humans were not just as bad as demons but worse. Satan set the ball rolling but the ones who killed humans were themselves. Something Satan later regrets, while God never fucking did regret anything. God let them all kill each other of passively "supported" a side (but not too much) to later arrive and triumph over their pile of corpses.
It's a fucking 70s manga. God isn't some distant compassionate figure, it's a symbol for USA, Soviet Russia or any superpower of turn in history who takes advantage of inner conflict to take over after both sides idiotically kill each other. You need to live in those days to understand how everyone felt, child. There was an intrinsic pessimistic view of humanity and future after the Atomic Bomb and the Holocaust. This is a fucking Japanese manga, not a murrican one that excuses American genocide on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
>Except humans do that all the fucking time
Except they don't. Genocides aren't just actually rare in the history of human conflict they typically arise out of adversarial groups (i.e. groups that a history of conflict) gaining an advantage over one another. The demons hide and enjoy the benefits that humans have reaped and enjoy human positions of power and live it up in human societies and then decide to wipe them all out, not a single exception, not a single place for them to escape to. I'm literally saying the demons are far, far worse than Nazis ever were.
>The way Akira discovers the demon hunter torture facilities here are a shot out to all the clandestine torture centers during dirty wars and wars. THIS WAS ALL BY HUMANS. Miki's parents were tortured to death and hanged like animals in these centers in the manga. Akira realizes humans are worse than demons after this point.
Yea that sure was terrible. I guess those handful of people torturing another handful of people out of a race numbering in the billions means ALL OF HUMANITY IS EVIL
>The only truly sadistic demon was Jinmen, the rest were more proud warrior guys types who acted on impulsives, but this careful cold-blooded torture is only something humans are capable of. Don't forget that to put his plan in motion, Satan had to fucking get a human heart to discover what they can do and their weakness.
Oh, I guess it's okay to kill people if you just do it out of impulse. Oh, you want to wipe out an entire species? Still okay, just do it by impulse. No you fucktard, that just means demons are naturally evil. Even the demon hunters were driven to that point by fear being frenzied by demons running terror campaigns on people in broad daylight.
You have to pin a huge list of "ifs" and circumstances to even get to the point that humans would do something so evil. Demons? Well they have no problem driving an entire species into madness and extinction, not a single one.
> Genocides aren't just actually rare in the history of human conflict they typically arise out of adversarial groups (i.e. groups that a history of conflict) gaining an advantage over one another
WRONG. Look at the Assyrians. This shit is old as balls. It's just that governments cover their tracks and make their evidence disappear. Unless you fucking think what happened in America wasn't a genocide, then you're fucking stupid.
>I'm literally saying the demons are far, far worse than Nazis ever were.
Kek, there's Hitler in the manga and he's portrayed worse than demon, and he's human. Nagai knew what he was doing.
>HUMANITY IS EVIL
That wasn't the point, that wasn't the point with the demons either, but you fucking miss it.
>Oh, you want to wipe out an entire species? Still okay, just do it by impulse.
Humans would have also wiped out the demons, you fucktard. Are you stupid or what?
>Even the demon hunters were driven to that point by fear being frenzied by demons running terror campaigns on people in broad daylight.
Jinmen spells it out to you about that hatred and fear run hand in hand. Demons were just as afraid of humans as humans were of demons. They fucking awoke after millions of years and saw their world they fought so hard to protect nearly destroyed and overrun by these creatures which, in their mind, were nothing but invaders. The demon mindset and reason to start a war is no different of how humans start wars.
>You're not understanding, Satan went off rails because he became human and got their faults.
Are you retarded? Satan was off the rails in the first place. Ryo in the manga actively wants to help stop the demons from wiping out humanity and thinks only of helping Akira fight to save humanity. He literally says this. Meanwhile every single demon is going "genocide now, our plan is going perfect, Satan why'd you become human and fall in love with that human?" You're the one not understanding anything. Satan didn't want to genocide the humans because he became a human, he just better learned how to kill them. All the demons were in on the plan from the very beginning.
>Because it was right there that humans were not just as bad as demons but worse.
You're actually fucking insane. I can just imagine it now, when you see a feral animal attacking another. "Those animals are fucking evil man, they're worse than humans." Did you know ducks engage in homosexual torture rape that ends in death, only for them to continue engaging in necrophilia? Man, guess those ducks are worse than demons too. All of them, doesn't matter it happens sometimes with some ducks, they're fucking evil man.
>Satan set the ball rolling but the ones who killed humans were themselves.
No, he and the demons literally campaigned to drive humanity to insanity. The resulting mad max world was a result of humans' battles with demons. Those Japanese cities being set on fire is implied to be demons attacking as Ryo literally says the attacks are getting worse and worse. Satan and the demons waged a two front war, physical and psychological far better than the humans could do against the demons.
>Something Satan later regrets
Yea because he realized he's his dad and he's a buttmad faggot whose father literally thinks homosexuality is an abomination. He literally says "I realized I did the same thing as my dad, I'm an idiot".
The demons just wanted to eat.
Can't blame them for that.
Its not their fault people are food.
>American genocide on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Oh one of those loons. Yea, I think we're done here. The absolute irony of a Jap allegorically portraying America as the ultimate bad guy (according to sequels and spinoffs) is fucking hilarious. Nagai's a fucking retard. And I guess Devilman is written out of some sort of Japanese guilt over how the Japanese people acted during WWII, except by the time he published the manga Japanese society was already super fucking stable and safe for a country of over 100 million people.
>The absolute irony of a Jap allegorically portraying America as the ultimate bad guy
America is the ultimate bad guy though.
Only because SquareEnix is jealous of DQ's success. You'd think they'd be grateful to Enix saving Square's ass
also SMT, Baoh, Guyver, Eva, Shadow Hearts, and many more
I really really agree with this post. Post more often on Sup Forums and don't be afraid to drop them truth bombs fuck
All angels are hermaphrodites and can impregnate each other.
God HATES bthose who won't be bottom bitches, and boy is Ryo Ouji a bottom bitch.
Nagai is crirical of even WWII Japan. He portayed those seeking to make the glorius Japan Empire in Lady as a bunch of degenerate psychos as they turn into devilbeasts. He just does it without actually referencing their atrocities.
Ryou did nothing wrong.
Literally everything is a ripoff of Devilman
Devilman is the inspiration for 90% of japanese media.