Squealer did nothing wrong

Squealer did nothing wrong.

literally who

He lost

Squealer the human.

Shin sekai yori best anime of all time

Squealer the Hero

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Is this worth watching?

yes.

watch it and find out

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All he needed to do was win. He was so close.

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He deserved worse the fucking rodent!

Squealer lost. Even worse he lost against a bunch of psychos after trying terrible means.

He was lucky to escape permanent torture

He was an unhinged power grabber masquerading as an equality commie. Pretty much Stalin. Just shows how people on 2018 imageboards are as gullible as Russian peasants.

The world would have been fine if he ended up winning. It just looked like shit because he lost.

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>The world would have been fine if he ended up winning
No, it wouldn't. Rats would continue torturing their queens, industry would take off destroying nature. We've seen how violent they are so no doubt many wars would be fought. There would be a genocide of humans. God knows what would be done in the name of equality and in the end, democracy doesn't work and it wasn't what they had - they had a dictatorship "in the name of the people" what is a basic propaganda and I don't know how you can gobble it up on face value.

Ultimately both sides were morally culpable. There's no point pretending that many of his actions (not all) were not justified by what the human humans did. Also rebellion against the queens was also plausibly moral.

I don't see how the rebellion was moral. The only thing humans did wrong was having so much mercy and giving them so much freedom things could've gone this far. His colony should've been wiped out years ago for crimes against nature.

The humans were intelligent enough as a society to know/observe that the queerats were as sentient as any of them were. They saw queerats as subhuman to them solely due to their lack of cantus and because of their usefulness as slaves. To them killing a queerat or an entire colony of queerats was equivalent to stepping on a bug.

The people that set up the human society felt the need to modify non-cantus humans in order to make them subservient clearly. They weren't just concerned with protecting themselves from a deadly threat that remained after instilling death feedback and inhibition in their own ranks.

They enslaved them and treated them worse than dogshit. They had no mercy at all. They didn't offer them real freedom but sent them into slavery and exile.

no it's just a section of japan that's shit for all we know

He didn't. Anyone who thinks he did doesn't understand anything.

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>his colony should've been wiped out years ago for crimes against nature
The PK users already pollute the Earth with more bullshit than the rats ever could. I'd rather live in a world with pollution from industrialism rather than literal eldritch abominations.

>They saw queerats as subhuman
They're are matriarchal collectivist without cantus. They literally are sub-human.

>killing a queerat or an entire colony of queerats was equivalent to stepping on a bug
Propaganda. They never did so unless it was absolutely necessary according to law. Need I remind you that Squealer's colony should've been put to the sword for what they've done but they weren't because humans cared? Your point is untrue.

>The people that set up
In the past. Nobody current shares the guilt and it can't be reversed. How things came to be have no place in this argument. Your last line is reiterating previously mentioned propaganda.

>Need I remind you that Squealer's colony should've been put to the sword for what they've done but they weren't because humans cared?

What are you referring to here?

Sometimes times a good guys need to be lost.

Overturning social order, enslaving the queens, performing lobotomy, digging out forbidden tech, changing honorable was of war etc.

They really put all the blame on squealer, and they were planning to destroy their colony as well.

>Need I remind you that Squealer's colony should've been put to the sword for what they've done but they weren't because humans cared?
WE WUZ KIND N CARING N SHIET

So a single human turning a blind eye means that the humans "cared" about the rats? only Saki knew about that stuff and she didn't want to spill the beans because that would mean the adults knew where she went.

So, not only are people capable of being compassionate, the laws were right about them not supposed to be so and the rats are so free that colonies can be left alone without a single inspection for a whole decade.

Or maybe none of the things he did up until that point broke any laws unless you can prove otherwise.

If you think any of that was allowed, you need to rewatch the series or read the novel.

I said prove it pal.

Humans didn't show mercy because they cared about the queerats they were simply ignorant of the situation. Had they not been complacent and ignorant they would have slaughtered them like animals, exactly how Squealer treated them. That's the whole point of the series. Both sides treated each other like shit and had no empathy for the other side, aside from arguably Saki. The only real difference between the groups was their powers and that Squealer failed. Even Kiroumaru who didn't commit the same crimes as Squealer was seeking ways to overturn the dominance the humans had over his people.

He got lost in his ideals for freedom with his ideals of power, that being said the humans were still worse.

Everyone was a fucking cunt in that world. I'm glad in all probabily the system will fail at some point and ogres will kill everyone. That or the village will choose to suicide by impure cats.

As I understood it, it's implied the rats might have had low PK potential (being able to shapeshift and change their queens). It's going to take a while but if that's true eventually they'll get strong enough to compete with humans. Then everyone will die.

He killed Maria.

t. cantus cancer
He did nothing wrong

Ware wa ningen!

>have this recommended to me
>start it up expecting some fantasy political anime
>it's fucking high school SoL shit
I am so fucking sick of this shit.

watching this is basically watching 2 different shows where one is the background story of the other, and the other an epilogue to the first

one show is second box, the other is the 3rd box

>Squaler lost
Now Shinsekai yori world experiences middle age for another 1000 years. Its fucking horrible to see rats fly past cantus wielding humans in terms of technological progression

I would rather have human race eradicated. that would fix cantus problem and bring new golden age.

no.

Why didn't they use their human as a breeding sow and made her give birth to more retards first?

They didn't have any other humans to breed her with, they killed Maria and Maomoru as soon as possible as it was hard to keep them constantly drugged 24/7.

Also the fact that the humans were gonna search for them had the bones not conveniently turned up.

>Watch the first episode again
>2011 Japan
>Briefly see a bunch of Japanese high school girls enjoying life
>Get a little sad because their descendants were probably turned into queerrats by cantus fucking shits.

>"we are humans"
>they laughed at and mocked him
am i the only one who was disturbed by it

It was pretty painful to watch, especially considering most of the people there had lost family and friends thanks to him. I could understand if they were outraged or shocked by it, but it was just more evidence of them having a few screws loose.

>but it was just more evidence of them having a few screws loose.
Or straight-up shit writing, which this anime has in spades.

I am curious to what you consider shit writing in this show, I am not arguing with you, it's just that it's been a while since I watched.

laughing at your enemy's misery is not so uncommon in war time

There are too many small things that are badly executed that add up and make the story's hooks for shock and conflict feel too obvious and weak, crushing immersion and making the few admittedly well executed moments less powerful.
An example would be, say, how death feedback and the aggression deterrent were programmed in by PK users but are actually completely counter-productive because thanks to social engineering and brainwashing hardly anyone who's not a Karma Demon or a Fiend has aggressive thoughts towards fellow PK users, let alone murderous tendencies. All that having do is make their entire society helpless against Fiends, since not even Tainted Cats do jack shit against them. This flaw exposes those mechanism's place in the story as mere enablers for all the shit that happens with Maria's child, which I think most people would agree is shit writing.

That's already bad not even considering the fact that a Fiend, again for no reason other than to cause the shit that happens in the last fourth of the story, *isn't even affected by those mechanisms*.
Or how the "the child thinks it's a queerat" twist doesn't make sense considering Kiroumaru's army (of queerats) was supposedly wiped out by it. It also involves some unnecessary and baffling Deus ex Machina in the form of Shou's hallucination or mental projection or whatever telling this to Saki. They could have done without it and just have Saki come up with a neat plan to use the Psychobuster in a more thoughtful way than what Satoru did.

Those are just the first ones that came to mind, but believe me, there are a lot more.

The messiah did not kill queerrats, it just disarmed them if I recall correctly.