Dumb & Dumber

>didn't let Hiro pilot with 02 even when both insisted.
>can't take innovative & urgent decisions.
>would rather jeopardize the life of their pilots than breaking the pathetic protocols.
>let Mitsuru go with 02 fully aware of the consequences.

Yeah, it's called plot convenience so they can advance the NTR plot

>didn't let Hiro pilot with 02 even when both insisted.
Why would a superior give authorization just because their subordinates insist on something

>can't take innovative & urgent decisions.
When you break military rules, they don't call it "innovative & urgent decision", that just plain insubordination and you will be court martialed for it (unless you get a critical success).
>would rather jeopardize the life of their pilots than breaking the pathetic protocols.
From what we understood so far the life of 002 is more valuable than all the parasytes (hiro excluded) combined, they don't want her to be "contaminated by the special specimen".

>let Mitsuru go with 02 fully aware of the consequences.
If they gave a shit about random parasytes then 002 former partner would still be alive.

Nah, he's right.

Then explain how he is right by refuting my arguments.

Clearly there is no Misato analogue.

/thread

Adding to this, all they really know about Hiro up to this point is that he was able to successfully pilot with 02 precisely once, and only while he was unconscious and apparently letting 02 take the reins. Otherwise, he's a complete catastrophic failure of a pilot who can't even achieve base synchronization with his squadmates. He's a complete unknown factor who's further introduction to an already precarious life-or-death situation could make the situation even worse, and potentially even put 02's life at risk, which is simply something that command isn't willing to do.

Stupid, APE mentioned that there's a risk for 002 to be mixed with special speciment like Hiro and it's not fully explained yet. It could lead to more worst scenario like going berserk like Eva or something like that.

Are you this dumb? Write your own fanfic if you hate the story dumbass.

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The fake outrage this show is getting is absolutely amazing. There are like 4-5 threads on the show at any given moment.

I would imagine the risk is if they just let 02 and the special specimen pilot together they'll just blow a hole through the bird cage and leave

They acted rationally. They don't actually care about the kids and they're afraid that Hiro will "contaminate" 002's blood.

but if they act logic then no NTR to shove to our face,

MC went lights out the very first time he actually piloted.
Who in the sane mind would send him on a rescue mission?

Is it NTR when the girl (in this case 02) don't want it?

yes most NTR is rape

But in most case the guys don't want it too when it is rape.

>Allowing a dropout failure of a parasyte to go in to a high danger situation with their high value assets because he managed to successfully pilot a mech precisely once while unconscious
>logical

Even when the girl emotionlessly takes it then murders the other guy the first opportunity she gets?

still NTR

>Hiro didn't pass the final test, therefore he isn't even officially pilot
>expecting them disobey direct orders from their superiors
This would be easier if your argument didn't fall apart in the slightest breeze

Yes if they fuck then it is NTR

>didn't let Hiro pilot with 02 even when both insisted.
Hiro's special. Weren't you paying attention to their discussions about him?
>can't take innovative & urgent decisions.
He's being monitored at the very heights of government.
>would rather jeopardize the life of their pilots than breaking the pathetic protocols.
Yes, they're tools to be used.
>let Mitsuru go with 02 fully aware of the consequences.
Again, tools.

>they never try to let them pilot again to see if it would work
>fuck testing the waters, I’ll just keep killing off parasites!
>oh no he might “”contaminate”” her blood best not test that!

Mitsuru is just unconscious, right?

If your hypothetical GF got raped on her way home it is also NTR?

yup

Yes

That's extra ntr according to my sources.

Try again in forty years or so when you lose your face, hair and get some weight, kid.

>they never try to let them pilot again to see if it would work
Did you miss episode 2? They did let him pilot again and he failed catastrophically
>fuck testing the waters, I’ll just keep killing off parasites!
Testing the waters =/= throwing him in to a combat zone when literally nobody other than 02 know how he's able to pilot it. For all they know, him being able to pilot it at all was a complete fluke, and the minute they throw him in there, he'll just wind up locking up again and getting them both killed. The rest of the squad is expendable, 02 is not.
>oh no he might “”contaminate”” her blood best not test that!
See: above. All they know right now is that Hiro was able to successfully pilot with 02 precisely once, and even that is murky since Hiro was either unconscious the entire way through, or otherwise cannot remember what happened. To send him in to a combat zone when they know so little about how he's able to pilot with 02 at all would be the height of stupidity.

what happened? previous threads were very toxic with how anons are very gungho about OP's point. But now people are suddenly pointing out "logical" explanations which actually arent really bad and defending Hiro.
Seriously what happend?

>not-SEELE that calls itself "Lamarck Club" cares about genetic purity of an extremely rare specimen
Are you retarded?

>take
>decisions
You don't "take" decisions, you fucking moron, you MAKE them.

You people make me sick.

The crossboarders and newfags are finally slinking back to their holes.

yes. best boi will back and ntr hiroсuck

>Lamarck
>Lamarckism (or Lamarckian inheritance) is the hypothesis that an organism can pass on characteristics that it has acquired during its lifetime to its offspring.
Interesting...

ok

its still NTR

It is mentioned multiple times that Hiro is a "special specimen", and we also know that other children are absolutely expendable. Officers probably dont give a shit about losing common cannon fodder due to unexpected escalation, but if something wrong goes with special assets like Hiro/Oni/Strelizia their asses are on the line.

Plantation 13's unit is expendable.

He fucking better be. Milkman was literally the best pilot on the team.

Will Hiro ever get revenge on Mitsuru?

Is she dead?

I don’t think Mitsuru cares if Hiro were to ride Ikuno. If anything I think he’d find it to be a good laugh, given how his character is.

Well Mitsuru's gonna spend the rest of his adult life having to wear adult-sized diapers. I don't see how Hiro could ruin him any further.

>Hiro
>get revenge

>Will Hiro ever get revenge on Mitsuru?
the guy got his dick cut off, what more do you want?

I'm sorry but was Hiro the one who did that? If anything it made him look even more emasculated.

>fake outrage
You are over-estimating them user.

Ok, calling this right now:
All of the pilots are just clones of some original. Numbers indicate the order in which the originals were introduced into the system, therefore lower numbers would be considered better, since they have had more versions than the higher numbers (02 was second, perhaps some kind of early experiment that didn't exactly pan out or was unreliable). Everytime pilot dies they recover the body (somehow, haven't worked out that part of theory yet) and use the genetic material from the corpse to grow another version. If the pilot exhibited some sort of useful anomaly during his life, it is passed onto his clones. This way they are trying to make the best possible pilots.
Perhaps the previous Hiro somehow developed resistivity to effects of Klaxosaurus blood and because of that he can pilot with 02 without getting fucked up. The "Lamarck Clib" seemingly already knew that Hiro had this ability, but are unsure about how it would affect him or 02.
Not perfect and probably missed something, but it's a start

They are not clones.
But designer babies, yes, think of cyber-newtypes or something (I wonder who'll snap first).

You don't ignore chain of command when you're in charge of giant robots piloted by unstable children to protect humanity again alien killbots.
We've seen the opposite approach backfire gloriously in other shows, I think?

> Let's risk the life of a parasite who we know can connect with and operate with normal girls, rather than use this guy whose supposedly talented yet can't connect/operate with anyone other than 02 just cause it'd be against the rules to allow the latter!

The problem is that some viewers believe that the adults ought to treat the kids as valuable people and prioritize their safety. They don't want to accept that the adults see those kids only as expendable child soldiers who should just fight until they die.

Stupid kids. Adults know what is best for you all. If they tell you that you should be with this girl, then you accept it. If they tell you that you shouldn't be with that girl, then you accept it.

Papa said not to do it, so it won't be done.
That's it.

>Let's risk the life of three other parasites by allowing the fuck that doesn't even remember his first piloting experience lead the rescue operation

Even the kids who have been raised in a super controlled environment have wants and desires outside of what they're told to do, hell, Hiro was technically going against what Papa/the ruling body wanted by leaving to go back to the orphanage, so why do these adults apparently not have the will to at least do something they think will likely save all the other parasite children at the risk of maybe one?

> Lets risk them by allowing the fuck who has literally never even piloted with 02 before to do it instead!

At least they know Hiro got the job done last time, why would they think it's any smarter to send some other random kid out with the supposedly uncontrollable 02?

It has been said a thousand times before.
Maybe they have the will, but they are military personnel, can't go against the order of the almighty patriarch called papa.

Because the children are still expendable. They're just orphan child soldiers, after all. 02 and the Strelitzia are valuable. Valuable enough that the military has no problems with sacrificing a bunch of stamens.

That other random kid actually stays consciousness in the fucking cockpit.

Just stop asking retarded questions.
Possibly they don't think it's smarter, but they have been told to not let Hiro pilot with 02 for now.
Pairing 02 with Mitsuru to save everyone is the only solution that isn't disobeying their orders.

02 can pilot with regular stamens just fine if she doesn't fight at full capacity. It's just that she normally doesn't hold back, which causes the stamens to die after a few sorties with her.
Or more likely, she is being sent to handle the really tough jobs where she has to go full out, which causes the stamens to die.

on a different sidenote, Lamarck's theory was disproven

Defeating a small critter of the smallest class.
Then 02 actually uses her abilities and he nearly dies.

no, only in the hospital (just pay attention)

> The other random kid actually stays conscious in the fucking cockpit

Where they're fighting an obviously smaller and weaker form of Klaxosaur, with 02 even saying she wasn't using her full power, and when she does, he promptly gets wrecked physically, unlike Hiro who, despite being unconscious, was able to connect with 02 and fought an obviously stronger Klaxosaur, presumably using 02's full power, all while suffering almost no damage at all.

That's irrelevant right now. It's fucking anime we are talking about, they can pull out any pseudo science they want. And so far, Nishigori wasn't exactly subtle with this kind of shit (see the classes of Klaxosaurs named after Earth's crust layers), so I doubt this is just coincidental.

02 was holding back until they got the kids out after that his ass was grass

It doesn't matter that the dude fought one.
It was a *rescue* mission.
You don't send literal who retarded that can't even remember his very first piloting experience to save others.
That's like asking the drunk niggers to drive the fucking ambulance.

No, defeating lots of small critters of the smallest class.

Can we get a thread without ntrfags and retards please? Go back to Sup Forums, MAL or R/a/nime and leave this place insecure faggot, stop projecting your real life problems in a tennager media for fuck sake.

>You don't send literal who retarded that can't even remember his very first piloting experience to save others.

Except that's exactly what they did with Mitsuru who is also someone who has been behind the helm exactly once.
They really just wanted to keep the protocol and knew Oni would fuck up whatever gets in her way, it was simply the issue of following procedure by not allowing a non-certified pilot in.

No matter the reasons, they precisely knew that mitsuru could fucking die because of o-ni, That would render the mitsuru's mech useless too.

Mitsuru is expendable.

> It was a rescue mission

Literally all Strelizia did was fight the Klaxosaurs, she didn't do any rescue shit at all, she was literally just killing shit until the others got out safely.

killing one giant Klaxosaur or a hundred tiny ones, the general idea is the same and they knew Hiro got it done before.

Im here since 2007 and this is the first time im considering using filters for the words "ntr" and "cuck", I would argue this is worst than Euphemia killing the elevens.

At least he was a parasite that could connect normally with people, Hiro was literally useless until 02 came along.

>02's "looking at walking garbage" tier face of disgust when Hiro said she should go with the bull
>Hiro looking at the ground the whole time, emasculated and humiliated, while Mitsuru is fucking shit up
>02 has to intentionally kill Mitsuru to get rid of him because she realized Hiro would have never stood up for himself or try to claim her if Mitsuru was allowed to "prove" himself

These are the facts. You can use mental gymnastics and rationalizations all you want, but you will never make this episode not look like an NTR drama, and you will never recover Hiro's character from this.
His waifu literally had to kill the bull that he offered her, because otherwise he would have just continued fapping in a corner while this pasty-white manlet sticks his tiny dick in her.
Also a little reminder that japs are also calling this NTR, so you retards who said "j-just wait for the subs its not what it looks like fucking EOPs" can also fuck off to reddit.

Typical self-inserter mental gymnastics:
>it's not NTR if she calls you darling afterwards
>02 is meant for Hiro, so Hiro pushing her onto another man isn't pathetic
>Mitsuru failed, so that means Hiro isn't a pathetic fuck for giving away "his" girl
>the mecha piloting is NOT symbolism for sex, it's pure coincidence that it's done in doggy style, Gainax/Trigger would never use metaphors for sex
>psycho spammer and his symbolism pasta noone cares about
>ignore everything and just screech about Sup Forums

Let's see if next episode deals with Mr. Beta being too scared to pilot her because the rumors are true, meaning yet another episode of Hiro not getting into the fucking robot.

> It's not a rescue mission
> She just killed everything that put the team in danger until they could extract
Is this ordinary autism or advanced autism?

you weren't here for the kannagi shit storm were you newfag?

Sup Forums has never liked NTR

I'm saying that all Strelizia did was kill Klaxosaurs when she deployed, no strategizing with the team, nothing that required actual brainwork beyond stabbing shit, which is, again, literally all Hiro did last time.

And considering that Strelizia just turned off when it was over I'd imagine we could count on it not going berserk or anything either, so there was no problem whether the Stamen is conscious or not.

topkek hirofags are really a delusional bunch, I wonder if they would still force their headcanon if someone else ride with 02 again next episode

That's just how much stronger and better the Strelitzia is compared to all the other four plantation 13 Franxx.

Maybe, but the fact remains that there wasn't any need to have someone else be the Stamen when Hiro essentially did the same job before.

If he can't even stay conscious, then he's useless. And so far, all his test rides have been failures. Mitsuru can ride. 02 can ride with normal stamens. She just doesn't normally bother holding back.

Wait for the spinoff, Hiro-kun no Revenge.

> If he can't even stay conscious then he's useless

Except that's blatantly not true since he was able to 1hit a giant Klaxosaur while sustaining almost no damage from 02, even if he gives literally no input ((which we don't actually know)) it at least allows for Strelizia to fight in human form and presumably at full power without having to sacrifice a perfectly good stamen who can connect with others normally anyway.

Hiro was literally useless before, but with 02 he can actually be useful, and clearly could have done the job Mitsuru did without the damage, since again, it was just killing Klaxosaurs.

>If he can't even stay conscious, then he's useless.

Except for, you know, wrecking kaiju's ass and saving the day.

Do you mean ride the meganeko?

Mitsuru only took damage once 02 decided to go at full power. She probably didn't even need to go at full power when fighting the bigger bug. But she did because she wanted to teach him a lesson for being an annoying braggart.

>let him pilot again
except they should have made him duo with zero two, not waste time with worst girl

Somehow the fact that she enjoyed nearly killing him just to make a statement made me like Zero Two even more.

Hiro is a sad piece of shit but Zero Two is a 10/10 girl.

Watching anime for logical decision making is a stupid thing to do but unnecessary NTR drama ruins my overall impression of this anime.

Hope she isn't Mary Sue

> She probably didn't even need to go at full power when fighting the bigger bug.

But she probably did to fight the giant ass Klaxosaur with Hiro, and Hiro ended up taking almost no damage.

this was meant to be an easy job for the kids, and they still got fucked over, I figure once they get to the REAL fights 02 won't be able to get away with using minimal power.

Sure. The moro most likely did require her full power. But the big bug didn't.

It amazes me that despite how fucking dumb you people are, Sup Forums is still the best place to talk about this show.