Darling in the FranXX

>Ep. 3
>Hiro fights against the APE until he manages to pilot the mecha with 0ni
>Goes in to the bottom of the pipe with strelizia, happy to be able to ride with her again
>Finds out that his friends have been completely destroyed by dinospheres, camera shows the detail of ichigo's body half eaten with a dino on her top devouring her chest
>Another dino is crushing Miku's head while Zorome, almost dead, screams in madness against Hiro for coming too late, then dies
>Hiro kills all steuroballs, proceed to go back in the dormitory, knowing that if he let 02 go with Mitsuku they would have been saved. He starts to hate 02 since she insisted to pilot with him, causing him ton lose his friend and family.
>Hiro kills himself after a week, knowing that he have nothing to live for anymore, his friends, family and love are all gone
>02 proceeds to kill herself for having caused so much pain to Hiro, knowing that she will never again find another Daaling like him

I'm glad that the episode went the way it went, i don't need a Romeo & Juliet/End of evangelion mash-up, Hiro did nothing wrong and the acted the best way possible for the harsh situation he found himself in.

They're not his friends.

They are.

They're literally the only human faces he knows besides their caretakers.
Did you miss how they're not allowed into the city and all the adults are masked?

>Hiro fucking cucks himself

why the fuck

>be around people for a while
>they automatically turn into friends

Not how it works sperglaird

So? Has fuck all to do with it

>Being this retarded

because his character lacks determination and his self esteem is crippled by his fear of failure

That's some nice autism you got there user.

>be around people for a while
>they automatically turn into friends
>Not how it works sperglaird
Yes that's exactly how it works when you replace "for a while" with your entire life and add that they're the only people who interact with him and that on a daily basis.
Are you some edgy autist who's trying to project your own social experiences onto the MC or something?

I wonder how the parasites will react to what happened. If they are going to blame Hiro for letting mitsuku pilot with 02, blaming 02 for purposely brain rape that poor faggot, blame themselves for not being strong enough to fight for their life. Most of all i want to see how Hiro reacts to mitsuku once he wakes in hospital. Maybe he won't remember anything just like hiro. If he wakes

This show has so much to offer yet and we are already at this stage of character development, really can't wait until next episode come out.

trying to explain foreign concepts on nu/a/
>good luck

Nah, they'll have to accept that he's actually capable of piloting with 02.

Because you are a retard user.
If he just delayed strelizia arrival by a few seconds then all his friends bar mitsuru and his partner would be dead. Anyone with a working brain could figure that out from the episode.

Because he didn't want to see his lifelong friends get murdered?

>strangers who spend time together are automatically friends
>accusing others of autism

No, still not how it works.

>If they are going to blame Hiro for letting mitsuku pilot with 02
That's retarded

> blaming 02 for purposely brain rape that poor faggot
Also retarded but similar stuff already happened in other anime so maybe

>blame themselves for not being strong enough to fight for their life
100% going to happen for ichigo after the shit she pulled and maybe Zorome for bragging again and again but not finishing the klax, endangering his partner.

Why are there so many broken people like you?

he is clearly friend with at least ichigo and goro, and he's been for their entire life their leader. even if he didn't consider them as friends (which he does obv) and family, he is still attached to them and care for their lives. Just stop being a mong user, you are really displaying your immaturity.

What friends? Only the glasses guy and Ichigo are his friends. The rest is just scum.

I dunno, why are there so many autismos like you.

The leader shit is just headcanon. Attached maybe, but you don't cuck out because you're 'attached'. That's what makes him a faggot.

It was explicitly stated in episode three that they treated him as their leader. I'm also kind of curious now what you think makes someone your friend? How could a group of people grow up together, in as close of an environment as this and not be considered friends?

>It was explicitly stated in episode three that they treated him as their leader

Don't remember that. And besides, being treated as such doesn't mean he ever was their actual leader.

>How could a group of people grow up together, in as close of an environment as this and not be considered friends?

Ever been to school? Did you consider every single person in class your friend?

I'd like you to stop dodging the question and just outline what you think a friend is.

>And besides, being treated as such doesn't mean he ever was their actual leader.
Yes it does. The position of leader is entirely defined by how a group of people treats an individual.

Are you obtuse or just retarded? How often do people have to tell you that "spending some time with people" and "literally only people you ever knew and that for the entirety of your life you remember" aren't the same thing?

Well first of all, I only dodged it once, so please calm down. Fair enough though. I'll take the dictionary definition of 'A person with whom one has a bond of mutual affection'.

No, the position of leader is largely formalized both in the modern world and in that setting.

It's not impossible to have spent most of one's life with one's classmates.

I will gladly assert that the vast majority of the cast appears to be mutually affectionate. You're a stupid autist.

>No, the position of leader is largely formalized both in the modern world and in that setting.
Once they reach a certain point, it is declared, yes. Ichigo is their official leader, now that they're actually piloting mechs. Prior to that it was clearly an informal relationship, defined by expectation and, more importantly, how people treated each other. Hiro was obviously treated as their leader. This aren't even subtle clues, the show is very blunt about it.

>how do they keep getting away with this?

>the vast majority of the cast appears to be mutually affectionate.
Nah, see, I think that's not true at all.

So what you're saying is, you previous post was wrong, and it's not in fact decided by how the group treats him?

>Nah, see, I think that's not true at all.
Yes, that's why I called you an autist

Well I'm sorry you feel that way. You're still wrong though.

>So what you're saying is, you previous post was wrong, and it's not in fact decided by how the group treats him?
No. Hiro was their leader. I don't think anyone's been claiming that he is their leader now. It's very obvious that his relationship with the group has been strained since he and his partner failed

Why is Sup Forums full of so many cold motherfuckers? I thought it was just pretending.

You're conveniently letting out the part where he can interact with no one else but his classmates.
And I don't know what kind of shitty ghetto school you went to but after even just 5 or 6 years the people of my class were at least well acquainted enough to care about the well-being of one another even if they didn't interact much. Only a real psychopath wouldn't care about the death of someone they have known for many years, let alone for life.

>the bald assertion of a man with no proof and no allies

There's someone that Shinji can actually say he's better than. Fucking kill me senpai!

Shinji was always great.

If there are so many posters, a few of them are bound to be actual psychopaths and real autists.

You guys have an obsession with cuckoldry, seriously. To save the life of the "sublings" you've grown up with, you have to make a snap decision. Neither of them are happy about it but how could he live with himself if he let those he'd grown up with and known for years die?

But user its so much easier to yell cucked and NTR and drop the show.

Probably bait, but the mere chance that someone may unironically think this is very entertaining

Ok, can you just tell me what are the necessary and sufficient conditions for being a leader in your opinion? I feel like you're all over the place.

Ah, shut up

I went to a relatively normal school and I'd let half the class get killed before I got cucked. I had no particular problems with anyone, mind you.

I dunno about psychopath, this armchair psych bullshit got old years ago.

>I'd let half the class get killed before I got cucked
You are definitely a psychopath

How long have you been here?

And you're definitely an armchair therapist faggot.

If a group of people look to you for advice and insight, you are their leader. It's really that simple. More importantly, the characters explicitly say that they believed Hiro would be chosen to be their leader by the official process and we see him become their leader in the flashback

I'm not an armchair anything. If you care that little for human life it is obvious to everyone of all classes that you are a psychopath. Everyone knows it.

That may very well be true, but we're discussing whether he was actually their de-facto leader. Got a bit sidetracked there.

I was pretty sure you were just baiting before, but now I'm not so sure.

Imagine being this incapable of parsing human relationships

Fuck off back to /r9k/

Honestly it surprises me that my attitude is apparently so outlandish. But no, I'm not baiting.

I spent a while with my roomate but we are not friends
Not how it works at all
Learn how to interact with people

>it surprises me
Yes, that's because you're a psychopath who doesn't understand human emotion.

Do you not value the lives of people you’ve been around for a long ass time? At all? How is that not some sort of mental illness?

Some, not all.

Probably not a psychopath, maybe a sociopath, but more than likely just an edgy little faggot.

So you’d let them lose their life when you have the power to help? Did the people you know torture you or some shit?

Well, just because I can help doesn't mean it's in my interest to help, right?

Would you care if he got hit by a car though? Would you stop him from getting hit by a car if you had the power to?

So you’re saying your interest outweighs human lives?

Jesus Christ user. Get off the fucking edge.

Well, in most cases yes.

Congrats, you’re a psychopath.

Actually, this is the kind of show where being autistic is a bonus if you want to understand what's going on with the character because a lot of info is provided obliquely but in an analytical manner, so neurotypicals (who mostly focus on the characters themselves, how they act and what they say) will either miss or misread a lot of information in the anime.

This is why those of us who have special brains must remind everyone else, in every thread, that the central themes of Darling in the FranXX are mutual trust and fidelity. Even episode 3 revolves around this. Mitsuru does not trust Ikuno and refuses to encourage her to do better, choosing instead to fish for another pistil as soon as the going got rough, and he was punished for it. A successful marriage is built on dedication.
Likewise, Hiro does not unconditionally trust 002 (yet) and primarily thinks about her as a vehicle for his own rehabilitation as a stamen, which is why he does not even consider disobeying high command and going with Strelizia to save his friends as an option. The way Hiro sees things, it's either 002 goes with Mitsuru or his friends will die.

See also the "dance" scene that happened earlier in the episode: the barriers that lock the parasites away from certain places are soft (normative, social) not hard (physical, natural). 002 does not care about that and is willing to bend the rules to get Hiro to see the city, but before she showed this to him, he had never even considered it as an option. So he doesn't really understand at that point what 002 means when she says that she can help him "escape" (only beginning to realise it at the end of the episode).

Contrast this to episode 1, where desperate, Hiro places his life completely in 002's hands -- she is willing to get inside Strelizia regardless of the consequences. If only for a moment, at that point he trusts 002 completely.

Strelizia represents faithfulness in relationships. Riding her is a test of fidelity.

>Strelitzia
>A common name of the genus is bird of paradise flower / plant, because of a resemblance of its flowers to birds-of-paradise.
>The bird of paradise represents faithfulness, love, and thoughtfulness
>The 9th wedding anniversary for a married couple
>Freedom and the ability to travel, due to the flower’s resemblance to birds in flight
>Magnificence, excellence and success
>Joy through challenges and successes alike
>Faithfulness in romantic relationships
>Optimism towards the future

This completes your threadly reminder.
Please don't hate me. I mean well.

It's evolving!

I really doubt that desu.

Hang on tight through the shitposting onibros.
It'll be worth it in the end.

triplets of 0ni truth

The people commanding them absolutely would not allow him to, so he had to concede so 02 could save his comrades. Pretty simple really, and it's obvious how conflicted and upset he was at his hand being forced into it, especially with Mitsuru being a dick about it and later getting nearly crippled

She'll still fugg all the guys that Hiro tells her to fugg, though.

Because she is unconditionally faithful to him. He asked, and she consented, because she was aware that the lives of the kids were at stake. Hiro's issues run deeper, and merely repeating the "dance" she did earlier (just grabbing his hand and dragging him inside Strelizia) would not fix things. Hiro needs to learn to be more proactive, that is what will truly grant his "escape". If he simply gets dragged along into things, he's merely switching one pair of cuffs (APE) for another (002).