Jesus fucking christ she was unbearable in the latest episode

They laid the fact that she can't understand emotion on so thick that it made the episode unenjoyable. If the titular character's only driving personality trait being emotional stunted, without any type of actual characterisation development, then the character is going bad and by proxy the story is bad.
We've had 4 episodes of Violet learning to be a functioning human and she still spouts shit like "that information is not factual".

>bullying a cute girl because she has autism
Sad!

She was pretty funny this episode, being blunt about everything.

That's the problem, it's gone so far that it's goofy now. I can't take any of this seriously, even when it wants to.

>it's gone so far that it's goofy now. I can't take any of this seriously, even when it wants to.
Same here.

> still watching Kusoani cartoons

War orphans turned child soldiers are not autistic.

I like her more, this episode.

shitposter

There's nothing left but shitposters.

>trying to run a business
>already on a deficit
>employees run off because someone got requested

man he is so fucked up

They've been trying to show her "growth" by having her make a surprisingly "deep" emotional observation every episode, but then she goes back to the "that information is not factual" routine immediately. Her "growth" feels inconsistent and poorly written. IDK I've never met someone like that IRL so maybe that's how things progress, but it just doesn't seem very believable.

I'm still watching the series because I have a lot of time and it looks pretty, but it's pretty boring and most of the time I'm multitasking instead of giving it my undivided attention.

Pretty much how I feel. I enjoyed the first three episodes, but by now I feel like we should be seeing actual development considering the amount of "deep" emotional discoveries she's made.

reminder that violet wants to know what is love

PTSD is for pussies lmao

It's not how it works at all. Even real life autists are not machines; they feel emotions just fine, they just have trouble expressing them and reading them correctly in other people. Older autists (who aren't outright retarded) compensate for their lacking social skills by using their intellectual faculties, not spouting canned phrases. VEG, on the other hand, makes Violet seem like a poorly written robot.

I know a 32 year old guy who has quite major autism and seeing people unironically compare Robot Evergarden to people like him is absolutely ridiculous. They're nothing alike.

She should have been a robot, then my suspension of disbelief wouldn't be broken. There is no way she's that autistic.

No bully

Actual autist here: it's certainly not how it works.

>this is the magnus opus of kyoani

Where the fuck are superior subs?

I'd hit that

If you want an autistic child soldier MC watch Iron blooded orphans instead

This episode is so bad.

I am coming to terms with how Violet acts since there is no way around it. It is not normal, and it is not autistic. She acts like a robot trying to understand human emotion since she can understand everything else clearly. I am ok with this setting so I am not complain about that. I am also not complaining about how automail works pre-WW2 and how gypsy neighborhood is wealthy and everyone generally acts like Japanese the whole time during the whole setting.

The thing that I want to complain is the job of automatic typing doll. How the fuck does that job fit into the worldview? The society is not complex enough for this kind of highly specialize job to exist. This episode we see that apparently even people in the countryside can write for some reason in a pre-WW2 setting. There is no reason to summon a typist to your house because that cost a lot than writing the letter yourself. Yes I get it you want to lure your daughter home to get married. However here lines the plothole: there is no reason to stop Violet from going back. They don't need a typist and asking your daugther to write the letter manually would be free (and that was your original aim anyway). Also we saw Violet was helping in delivering the letters too. I would be pissed if they charged money for that part of job too because no one in their right mind would pay for it. This fucking job violates so many economic common sense it hurts.

I am so dropping this show after this episode if it is not made by kyoani.

>forced animation
I thought this was a meme until I saw Violet's movement at the train station.

>forced drama
Need I say more? The "falling off the stairs and hurt your arm so Violet can go with you" is so predictable.

I don't see how it would get any better. I would rate Musaigen no Phantom World higher than VEG.

>apparently even people in the countryside can write for some reason in a pre-WW2 setting
Where is the problem with that? Literacy was functionally universal in western countries even before WW1

Is this series dare I say the biggest blunder of KyoAni?

...

This is her character.

>Where is the problem with that? Literacy was functionally universal in western countries even before WW1
There is a reason why this episode is the last straw. The name list shows that Iris' parents can write even though they are people from the countryside. Also there is no point in writing letters for the other villagers if they are illiterate.

>They've been trying to show her "growth" by having her make a surprisingly "deep" emotional observation every episode
>but then she goes back to the "that information is not factual" routine immediately.
They have to. This is a filler episode.

They don't even take anonymous requests so you can’t even use their service for shitposting. Yet there are somehow enough that it has it’s own class.

not an argument

Did you watch the episode? The parents requested a ghostwriter as a ploy to get Iris to come home, so them being able to write is irrelevant.
The show also did show people reading letters after they have been written. It's not about literacy, it's about having a person trained in writing to compose a good letter. That's why they talk about it as ghostwriting and not as just 'writing'.
In this specific case it also was about not having to write out 20+ invitations by hand and instead having a Doll to type them.

Complaining about the economic realism of Violet Evergarden is like complaining about how Sword Art Online's plot could never work in financially.

Yeah, VE doesn't make sense. That's because it's written by an Eleven with a close minded-view of the world. Fantasy is all about the suspension of disbelief. You either suspend enough about VE's setting so that you enjoy what the author wants to convey or you fucking leave. Simple, no?

I wasn't making an argument.
I was pointing out the characteristic of a filler episode. A fact.

Mid-season filler episodes have to contain no character development by nature so that the characters do not seem too jarringly when they go back to source material.

Thus, complaining about no character development in a filler episode is laughable.

>Did you watch the episode? The parents requested a ghostwriter as a ploy to get Iris to come home, so them being able to write is irrelevant.
Yes. Which is why I wish that you would read my post carefully. Their daughter was there already, and Violet was leaving. There is no reason to stop Violet from leaving because they don't actually need a typist.

>The show also did show people reading letters after they have been written. It's not about literacy, it's about having a person trained in writing to compose a good letter. That's why they talk about it as ghostwriting and not as just 'writing'.
In that particular scene they just delivered the letters into the mailboxes. Which is strongly implicated that the villagers can read. Another option would be Violet reading the letters to them one by one in the morning after they see the letter which is very unlikely and not logical.

>putting up a strawman and a response to the strawman
>"I wasn't making an argument"

>In this specific case it also was about not having to write out 20+ invitations by hand and instead having a Doll to type them.

I could do it in one day. You can pay me less than the "doll". Also free delivery and I promise to get it done before sunset.

>They laid the fact that she can't understand emotion on so thick that it made the episode unenjoyable
You were already told to drop this polished turd and given good reasons for it. We even had a "what shows have you dropped after the 3 episode rule this season" thread and almost everyone mentioned this trash. Just drop it and move on. Don't torture yourself with this garbage

If you want to complain about VE, then complain about more serious issues. Like how they clearly stated in the first episode that Hodgins' company exist because until the end of the war (like a few months before the series starts), postal service was closed to the general public and limited to military uses, yet even remote villages have mailboxes and ghost-writing letters is a well established profession.

>like a poorly written robot
So exactly what she is

More like magnus anus.

I have read your post and I wish you would watch the episode carefully.

> They don't need a typist and asking your daugther to write the letter manually would be free

Her right arm is in a cast, which is the reason Violet comes with her in the first place. She probably wouldn't be able to write the letters due to that.

And again, from what we've seen in the episode, Iris's family isn't poor. They have quite a big house, they are able to throw this party for a bunch of people, so it seems reasonable to me that they would have a Doll type out all the invitations instead of writing them by hand purely because they can afford the convinience. We've already seen a guy who's in some kind of debt coming in to have a letter ghostwritten, so it's probably not super expensive.

Regarding your comments on the whole Doll thing not fitting into the world technologically and economically: I don't think that we've seen enough of this world to conclude that.

>We've already seen a guy who's in some kind of debt coming in to have a letter ghostwritten, so it's probably not super expensive.

Yeah not including travelling fees and "offshore" fees. There is no reason to spend those extra fees. If you can get something done at a cheaper price, you do it at a cheaper price.

>Regarding your comments on the whole Doll thing not fitting into the world technologically and economically: I don't think that we've seen enough of this world to conclude that.

I never argue technologically since I accepted the existence of automail. The thing is, no matter what kind of fantasy you have, economy is the rule that you can't break, unless they specifically mentioned that money is eliminated in the world. This profession just breaks too many rules of economy.

Are you retarded? He said basically everyone was literate before ww1

That is a fair point. Maybe you could compete with the Dolls if you were in that world.

I also think that in that particular case Iris's family might have just done that out of courtesy. They requested a Doll specifically to have Iris come home, but since Violet also showed up, I guess they might have felt kind of guilty and requested the invitations (which they needed anyway) so she would still have a job to do and didn't end up just wasting her time coming to their town.

:DD i wand do gnow what lobe means :DDDD
:DDD

>That is a fair point. Maybe you could compete with the Dolls if you were in that world.
The thing is that anyone with a brain will try to compete with that, which is why I said individuals can survive by being typist but not a company. Unless of course it is illegal to type without company license which is unlikely since we know that anyone can be a typist from episode 3.

>I also think that in that particular case Iris's family might have just done that out of courtesy.
That can also be the case. I would agree to it.

My bad, I thought he mean the other way around. My point of it doesn't change though.

I think you're presuming a lot about the economics of the situation. I don't think that the show has given us reasons to think that their services are expensive, but they are definetely convinient. Even if they are expensive, which I don't think they are, I also don't think it's unreasonable to argue that some people would be willing to pay extra for convinience.
And again, it's not just about the literacy, it's about composing a good letter, which some people just cannot do at all, so they do it at whatever price the Doll service requests for it.
More than anything I think that the existence of the Doll service in this show is more of a plot device to have Violet explore human communication. If the economics of the service are not believable to you and break you suspension of disbelief — sucks for you, I guess.

> If the titular character's only driving personality trait being emotional stunted, without any type of actual characterisation development
In the perfect Sup Forums world every anime would be like ReCreators. I know VEG threads are made with the purpose of shitposting but I only wish every anime had its Meteora version because I'm sure at this points the complaints are real and come from people that are watching the anime but not understanding it.
If there are not breaks with somebody explaining Violet's (and everybody else for that matter) growth user will never get it and that's ironic since they are complaining about an anime character that doesn't understand emotions.

Maybe the typewriters are expensive. Maybe not having the training that we've seen Violet go through would make someone seem unprofessional and scare away customers — there's probably a reason they are given out those brooches at the end of the course. Maybe this job doesn't actually pay that much — the boss guy did mention that he's struggling with money.
I'll quote my other post: More than anything I think that the existence of the Doll service in this show is more of a plot device to have Violet explore human communication. If the economics of the service are not believable to you and break your suspension of disbelief — sucks for you, I guess.

Of course if you put it under scrutiny, Auto-Dolls as a profession makes little sense, especially when taking in to account it's set in a world where most of the population seems to be literate (there's a reason why 'letter writing' was a profession primarily in countries and places where literacy rates were low, such as India).

>The thing is that anyone with a brain will try to compete with that, which is why I said individuals can survive by being typist but not a company.
It isn't even that. Auto-Dolls are an industry based primarily on the writing ability of the individual, with their typing ability coming second in priority. Not even getting in to how inherently self-defeating, since people would inherently grow suspect of any friends, loved ones, or associates who suddenly wish to express their feelings on something through the form of a letter that's spontaneously eloquent beyond the clear writing ability of the supposed composer.

>Auto-Dolls as a profession makes little sense
That is exactly what I am trying to say.
>I think that the existence of the Doll service in this show is more of a plot device to have Violet explore human communication
And it is a very important plot device. If it cannot be explained in details and make sense, it can easily break immersion.

Oh god...
Now waiting for a future episode where someone sits in her chair and she complains "That's my spot."

>explained in details
But the show is not about the service, it's about Violet trying to adapt to peaceful life, understand emotions and communicate with people better.

I think that the Doll service is fleshed out enough to do the thing it is there for — be an excuse for exploring communication. Maybe it wouldn't make sense economically in reality (which I don't agree with btw), but a lot of things in anime and stories in general would not make sense economically in reality, which does not automatically make the story bad because the economics is not what it's about.

>But the show is not about the service, it's about Violet trying to adapt to peaceful life, understand emotions and communicate with people better.
The episodes so far doesn't give me that feeling. In fact, it focus a lot more on the "doll" aspect.

Because being a doll is the way Violet is trying to learn to communicate and understand people, she literally talks about that in every episode so far.

00 did it better

You mean Full Metal Panic.

>Iris has been tripping over herself the past few episode
>Shows Iris' unsteady ankles while going down the stairs
>Forced Drama! Falling off the stairs and hurting her arm is just forced drama!

speedwatchers. not even once.

That is literally how you walk with high heels. It doesn't show anything "unstable".

Darling is winning so fucking hard you guys can't evenfight back

shit story
nice visuals

>can understand that Iris is lying when she said "I understand" when walking down the stairs
>suddenly revert back to autism for the rest of the episode
Her autism is just for plot convenience.

>showing the footage few seconds before she falls
>claimed it is from the past few episode

Kyoanus lickers please.

More like magnus anus of kyoanus

They might as well make the rest of the show filler episodes too, because nobody cares about the actual plot anymore after four episodes of nothing happening.

KyoAni in a nutshell

Yeah, this. I'm wondering why they didn't just make her an actual robot from the start. It would have worked much better

All I want to know, are they adapting the novel or these past episodes have been anime original?

You mean Metal Gear Rising: Reveangance?

There are novel plots in all 4 episodes so far with some kyoani modification.

This thread is an eyesore. I want it to snap to snap to snap to snap to snap to snap

is that a mole between her cleavage?

Stop bullying best autist.