Overlord

What did Demiurge mean by this?

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You know the term "sheeple", in reference to the lowest grade of religious devout who mostly just exist to be thankful they get abused and work hard to give tithes?
Slaine kingdom's a theocracy.
Two-legged sheeple.
Though Ainz doesn't seem to have realized those "sheepskins" are a euphemism, and Demiurge seems to just think that Ainz is approving of the view that humans are mere animals.

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Humans

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humans
demi is python whereas ainz is assembly

What if Ainz was right and they were two-legged sheep all along?

>impregnate me

vol 12 suggests this is a valid theory as well.

Umu.

>secondaries doubting Demi's loyalty
he is a good boy

why did they cut the scene with Shalltear crying?

If I hear "umu" one more fucking time...

To give more room for Evileye.

>Did Demiurge mean humans, or are they literally a race of bipedal sheep?

Honestly, probably the best mystery in Overlord atm.

they could just translate it to 'mhmm'

LN already uses mm and umu though.

I hope Evileye dies a horrible slow death.

She wont.

Remember how there were no bodies found after the battle with the theocracy (for anime that's episode 4 of season 1)? And talk of experimentation started soon after?

He really says that though.

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what the fuck?

He's skinning people alive, then magically healing them so he can skin them again. It's an endless cycle of indescribable pain and torture.

its genius tho

If Albedo, Shalltear & Aura could have kids with Ainz, what would they tell them about their father?

Does skinning little children alive turn him on?

don't they get controlled by someone as shown in the OP?

Give it to me straight, what are their odds?

They get one shotted.

Zero.

Do you think he skins them entirely, or does he just carve a hunk straight down their back? The former yields more skin, but the latter means they're less likely to die from shock.

He does it for the scrolls.

0 percent. They cannot even scratch coccutus with their best weapon.

Ainz knows that most of his followers value humans as much as they do insects, so it was pretty stupid he didn't realize that the "two-legged sheep" were humans.

There's only so many cuts on a human that would be suitable for making the scrolls out of. It probably makes the most sense to find the best cut, probably the back or stomach or something, and just take that each time.

>they're less likely to die from shock
That wouldn't be a problem if he just gave them anesthetics.

Historically, humans who were skilled alive would die before they were completely skinned. One case I had read about ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Antonio_Bragadin ), they started skinning him from his feet, but he died around the time they got to his torso.

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>That wouldn't be a problem if he just gave them anesthetics.

Would you take a job in nice Demiurge's skin farm, Sup Forums? Yeah, he skins you, but he completely numbs your sense of pain and heals you immediately. His assistants are cute, he provides good food and lodgings, and you're technically a vital service to that up-and-coming Sorcerer Kingdom.

>nearly killed Entoma
>got Ainz this close to snapping at her and breaking his Momon disguise
>later was given a death sentence by him
She's literally a walking corpse. And this is the best case scenario in which she isn't sent to the happy farm.

no

Nips like her. Shes immortal.

As long as the pay is good.

What if we never see or hear of Demi's Happy Farms and Ainz just comments "ooh those are some weird monsters Demiurge, did you use magic?" and it just cuts to Albedo and Demi smiling smugly again?

Bafolk. See vol. 12 of the LN.

He's talking about cute sheep girls

Why, she's one of the few good people in this story.

Bafolk are described as goats though.

after watching the end of season 1 i was reminded that ainz killed shaltear twice, once with magic and once with melee

They should just kill themselves and save cocy time.

Is Maruyama really the kind of guy that would bend to popularity? I mean Climb came in what, 60th place? He still matters.

This is what Ulbert's daughter would look like actually

Nips liked Arche and Clem too

Unless they can negotiate a deal, with Nazarick then they are fucked.

The Lizardmen and their assets provide more to Nazarick than if they where killed.
>Loyal Worshipers of Ainz
>Can Spread the word of Nazarick
>Can act as a remote base for Ainz

Literally there best move is not to fight.

Are you seriously comparing Climb to EE?

Baafolk aren't really from the Holy Kingdom, though. They went with the trump option for their demihuman problem.

Give him a break. His valued NPCs were inanimate autists for years. They only just recently gained the ability to talk in riddles and euphemisms.

that's how you know he really loves her

What is his alignment supposed to be? This just seems pointlessly cruel and overly difficult instead of just using actual animals.

Is there something wrong with that? They're both boring little hangers-on.

Well, based on the number of flayed beastmen in Volume 12 it seems that he might actually have been talking about 2 legged sheep beastmen or something of that nature.

There might actually be a lot more variety on Demiurge's happy farm that we originally thought (which makes sense when you think about it, he would enjoy experimenting with tons of different races to see which ones produce the best materials for each task, restricting himself to only human experimentation would be very negligent of him).

>The Venetian seamen went on to fight with greater zeal
heh

EE has personality and backstory unlike muh renner Ascend

Then Ainz actually was right in saying that goat was a better description.

Sasuga Ainz-sama, truly his insight knows no bounds!

This is what I don't understand. Beastman, among other demihumans, should provide much better raw material for spell scrolls than humans, instead they only seem to use the latter including children. Does Maruyama have this much of a torture porn fetish that he chooses to ignore common sense?

IT'S PEOPLE, PARCHMENT IS MADE OF PEOPLE!

Overlord doesn't do DnD alignments. He just has a negative "Sense of Justice" or something. Like, -500. Or is that just Ainz?

>EE has personality

How will Ainz explain GMs to NPCs?

Huh. I was sure their character sheets had like a description of their morality like alignments.

>nearly killed Entoma
That was Entoma's fault. She should have been more careful. It showed that she was too overconfident in her abilities and a liability to Nazarick.

No, the parchment is made of Bafolk, a variety of beastmen from the Holy Kingdom area that Demiurga has been experimenting on.

Not that Demi isn't also experimenting on humans, it's just that Bafolk skin makes better scrolls than human skin. Demi is very thorough and experiments on all races he can find to determine which ones produce the best materials for benefiting Nazerick.

Gods who granted gifts to the great ones of Nazarick such as Gargantua.

nah its called "sense of justice" i would assume everyone is in the true category

To be fair, none of the maids are really all that subtle when they have to interact with outside people.

It seems hilariously stupid to go through the trouble of making a human farm when the world is full of magical beasts that must surely be just as good and easier to maintain.

I think he just wants it to be clear that these characters ARE evil, and not just meme evil where they're evil except in all the ways people might care about. Honestly that's probably how I would see it, if Demiurge said something like "Beastmen are far superior material, so I just use them instead". I would take it as a way to avoid the impression of the characters actually being evil, because "It's not as bad as if they were doing it to humans". As for using humans exclusively, it might just be that they're easier to handle. I imagine their skin is a lot softer than a beastman's (easier to cut), and they're easier to subjugate and breed. Plus, they do actually hate humans.

No, he's not that kind of sadist. He's the political kind of evil: it doesn't matter if they're young or old, what's important is that they're not part of Nazarick and therefore have no value beyond what resources can be obtained out of them.

He barely even sees them as alive, let alone as people. Might as well be gutting cockroaches.

Agreed and it's a liability to Nazerick. Ainz has been trying to get this point across to all the NPCs for some time that they need to be more flexible.

Do you have a source on that, because that scene's whole point is to show how inhuman Ainz's minions are and that falls apart if it turns out that they were sheep all along.

>No, the parchment is made of Bafolk, a variety of beastmen from the Holy Kingdom area that Demiurga has been experimenting on.
Source?

Wouldn't it make more sense to just get a large animal and skin that instead? More room to work with, less healing magic needed.

Bodes well.

Seems to work on Albedo somewhat.

That's my point. Demi's farm is probably filled to the brim with various varieties of both intelligent creatures, magical beasts and mindless monsters that he experiments on to produce the best possible materials for Nazerick.

He probably tries various cross-breeding experiments too to try to combine favourable attributes of various creatures/races/things to make ideal farm cattle that can provide even better materials.

Shit, now I want a Demiurge's Happy Farm Simulation Game where you manage the happy farm. Shit would be both disturbing and amazing at the same time.

Albedo will realize he's an idiot someday.

>the parchment is made of Bafolk
Nice headcanon.

More work involved in removing fur or scales.

It might not be "doesn't get it at all" and more "in denial". He cares for and values the NPCs as the children of his friends. They're so loyal and eager to please.

And his undead passives actually work against him in some way there too; people rely on strong emotional or visceral reactions to get their mind/memories going into the right (or terribly wrong) place. His 'gut instinct' might be getting dulled off quite a bit, letting him go "nah, it's probably not that bad"

And still love him.

To a point, however she's already plotting against him to kill any former players for betraying Naserick and Momonga. She's kind of a wierd bag in her loyalties.

not only that but the maids are fairly weak on their own, weren't they supposed to be a collective boss fight?

Volume 12 has Bafolk that are explicitly flayed being forced to participate as part of the army invading the Holy Kingdom.

Also it doesn't really ruin it because they aren't "sheep", rather they're still intelligent, sapient beastmen. They are just not humans specifically (which makes sense because there's no reason that humans would make better parchment than beastmen that explicitly have thicker, sturdier hides).

Gods who ruled over Yggdrasil.

I don't think he would care either way. Ainz has done good guy stuff but early on it was established that he doesn't really care about humans.

That wouldn't be as fun though. It's pretty obvious that Demi mainly chooses humans for his farm because he loves tormenting them and causing them suffering.

I'm super confused. Didn't the skeleton guy say he would spare them and force them to take on his governing experiment?

I am not a smart person and really struggle with plots like this

No, his thoughts make it clear that he doesn't realize what's actually going on. He thinks that they're real sheep, while Demiurge thinks that Ainz is in on the joke and referring to humans as sheep.