Dragon Ball Super

> 128 - "With Noble Pride to the End! Vegeta Falls!"
> 129 - "Transcending the Limit! Mastering Ultra Instinct!"
> 130 - Presumably the final struggle and the end of the ToP
> 131 - Wrapping everything up. Show Ends.

So since DBS supposedly ends on episode 131, where the hell are they going to fit the Goten/Trunks-focus "after the Tournament?"

Does Toshio know something we don't? Did he accidentally confirm the continuation of DBS?

He meant in Dragon Ball Ultra, the new series starting fall 2019

Anyone thinking Vegeta is going to be out is a fucking moron.

>Ep 129: Transcending The Limit! Mastering Ultra Instinct!

It's quite clear that "Mastering Ultra Instinct" is in reference to Goku's UI. But the first part "Transcending The Limit" isn't. Goku doesn't need to go beyond any more limits with UI, he has already surpassed his inner limits, he just needs to master it. Vegeta will get a heavy beatdown but will be saved by either Frieza or Goku at the end of 128. After that, he receives a zenkai that will push him to the next level and he'll transcend the limits of Super Saiyan Blue again. There's a reason why Goku and Vegeta are standing next to each other in these forms as equals in the ending song.

DBS ending is an April Fools day joke

>Bulma VA dies
>Nuke the entire series

Fucking waifufags

While discussing Fusion Zamasu vs Jiren, I realized that analysing F. Zamasu's power-level is a nightmare:

PL Anime
> Doesn't take damage from SSB Vegeta and SS Rage Trunks' Father-Son Galick Gun
> Takes damage from a Kamehameha from SSB Goku
> Doesn't take damage from SSB KK Goku...but after Goku breaks his arms from said Kamehameha

PL Ranking:
SSB Goku > SSB Vegeta + SS Rage Trunks =?= SSB KK Goku

And the SS Rage Trunks vs Fusion Zamasu was silly, but I didn't include it because:
1 - He used borrowed power...even though the amount he borrowed is debatable (how much would base Goku and Vegeta give? Did Gowasu and Shin offer their power too?)
2 - It wasn't a blast that Trunks used, but a slice. Vegito Blue already showed he can stab through F. Zamasu with his Spirit Sword.

PL Manga:
> He was losing to Vegito Blue
> Pretty much on par with Mastered SSB Goku
> Regular SSB Vegeta was able to destroy TWO Fusion Zamasu's with one blast

Ranking:
SSB Vegeta > SSB Vegito > Mastered SSB Goku

As confusing as this is, he isn't the worst one. We still have Buu who:
- Original form: Kid Buu
- Absorbs a Fat Kai who was able to easily cut Super Buu into cubes, and somehow got...weaker? (Fat Buu)
- Fat Buu separates from his evil half, and then gets absorbed by his other half.
- Becomes stronger (Super Buu) even though he separated into 2 and then become 1 again. This should not make you stronger but have the same strength as the original pre-separation.
- Remove Fat Buu from Super Buu = Not Evil Buu, but his original Kid-self. And where the hell is the Fat Kai?

And honorary mention, Cell:
- His regeneration was attributed to Piccolo's DNA but last minute change attributed it to his "nucleus" being intact
- Goku blew up his top-half, where his "nucleus" is (with Warp Kamehameha). He shouldn't have regenerated.
- Regenerating without 18 into his Perfect Form
- Obtained IT just because

Ok scratch that, all villains post-Freeza are nightmares to analyze.

In those long-running anime, even they prefer to keep the original VAs as long as possible, they have no problem changing them if they either retire or pass away.

They just have a new VA for Dokin-chan already.

"When Vegeta challenges him, what is his fate?!"

Episode Title:"With Noble Pride to the End! Vegeta Falls!!

>Jiren cripples Goku
>no worries, he'll just get back up next ep
The amount of asspull in this show is just sad now.

> 128 - "With Noble Pride to the End! Vegeta Falls!"
OH NONONONONONONO

Is this real?

Shouldn't this be bigger news?

> 128 - "With Noble Pride to the End! Vegeta Falls!"

It doesn't say he falls out of the stage

Jiren is still boring.

are you this dumb? Merged Zamasu's power is basically comprable to Goku, so he can't defeat Goku and Vegeta at same time and has no chance against Vegetto. Jiren is probably stronger than Goku and Vegeta teaming up in the manga/outline too so Jiren > Zamasu
But being fair Zamasu can't be defeated without a sealing technique or Zeno so he would probably win

>this denial
Adorable

I wonder what the reason to give #17 such a push was, and if it'll just turn out to be anime filler as well.

>Vegeta out after all that shitposting 2 days ago

Where are you cucketafags? Come on, keep posting your "bejita sama you're numbuh one"

Director was a 17fag don't expect that shit in the manga, in fact, think of the manga as the true TOP arc and the anime as some spurgtard's fanfic, in fact think of all of Super like that, only good thing is Goku Black's personality is much better in the anime than it is in the manga

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APOLOGIZE

>127 - 17 gets KO'd - 3 min left
>128 - Vegeta gets KO'd - 2 min left
>129 - Goku gets UI again - 1 min left
>130 - Stalemate till the end - 0 min left - time called
>U7 wins cause they actually still have 2 fighters, Freiza hiding behind a rock or some shit
>131 - Arguement/fight over who gets the wish, Goku obviously gets it in the end
>He wishes for like all the Universes to be restored or something like that
>Not just the ones wiped out here, but ALL that the Omniking destroyed come back
>Happy ending shit Bulma never speaks
>Hint at some kind of multiversal threat that was erased now being unleashed again
>"See you next time, on Dragon Ball ULTRA!"

> Manga
> Fusion of Zamasu and SSR Black is basically comparable to Goku

How the hell are they going handle Kefla in the manga?

A fusion of Caulifla (who shouldn't be much stronger than Zamasu), and Kale (stronger than Caulifla, but not SSR Black).

Is Goku going to easily beat her with Mastered SSB? Or is he going to Hold Back™?

I expect Jobgeta's loss to be an absolute beatdown. It's only fitting for the Prince of All Jobbers.

- Arguement/fight over who gets the wish, Goku obviously gets it in the end
>>He wishes for a boat for 17

FTFY

Simple, Kelfa won't happen in the manga

> Anime Writer: "We will focus on these characters AFTER the Tournament"
> Anime "ends" after the Tournament

It's not ending. DBS continuation confirmed.

>Blue kawaii vegeta exists to make vegeta equal to kaioken blue goku
>Blue vegeta defeated GoD Toppo
>Kefla as a SS1 is comparable to the spirit bomb
>The spirit bomb was goku's trump card and gave jiren more trouble than KKX20
Therefore
SS2 Kefla > > spirit bomb > Goku Blue kaioken = Kawaii vegeta > GoD Toppo

LMAO

That would be very, VERY disappointing

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>where the hell are they going to fit the Goten/Trunks-focus "after the Tournament?"

clearly they had shit planned after the tournament but since the show is ending soon it will prob be there for the next series.

Fuck that.

If Kefla isn't in Toriyama's draft, he'll be pressured to include her anyway because of the anime.

For you, but no one besides waifufags gives a shit.

Gohan Bread thread

You will keep saying that until you get btfo right buddy?

can someone post the webm of toppo getting vaporized

wont happen buddy.

Screencaped for future laughs

Caulifla is a SS2, fodder to SSG
Kale's SS is stronger than a SS, but still fodder to SSG
Kafla's SS2 is probably stronger than what you would expect for a SS3 potara fusion.

And considering that SSB and SSG are close each other in the manga the only change needed is having Kafla transforming since the start, rather than fight in base.

Buu arc SS3 Vegetto < SSG Goku =

POST MORE KEFLA

Is that why she didn't harm ssb goku once until she surprised him after he used up all of his stamina because of kaioken just like beerus and whis said

Believe ir or not she is pretty popular
if you take dokkan sales or DBFZ dlc requests as valid

>tfw non canon

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He doesn't need to wish for the boat. 17 just needs to talk to Bulma about...
Oh, wait.

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>they're still in denial
TOP KEK

She's more popular than you think. Her episodes were highly rated and Bamco printed money $$$ when she arrived in Dokkan Battle.

if he was still alive jiren wouldn't stand a chance

nice headcanon
He was still in kaioken she just outplayed him

NOO NOOO WHAT DO U MEAN I AM NOT CANON

>> 128 - "With Noble Pride to the End! Vegeta Falls!"

nice headcnaon

She's perfect

Unf

her design is awful, she needed better clothes.

131 will be goten/trunks muh family filler and then DB ends forever.

Pretty much this. The asspulls, the poor characterizations, piss-poor art and animation combined with all the shoehorned characters who in the end amounted to nothing made it all indistinguishable from a spic fanfiction with slightly higher budget. I hope Toei adapts the manga in the future though.

Then why the fuck she's not Dokkaned yet? Fucking took too long for ToP to end so they can wait on their ass to dokkan both her and UI Goku?
Now she's powercreeped.

Doesn't matter
Stated stronger than kaiokenX20 goku
>inb4 Goku is stronger than the genki dama

desu it feels like they regret killing 16 and gave 17 the characteristics of 16

Easy
They are waiting for dbs to end
Jiren dokkanfest at 250 mill download fest
UI and U6 dokkans

Glad this show is ending.

If he had the self-destruct built in still, would he be able to scratch anyone in the ToP?
Always wondered why they never tried to with him back/rebuild him

IF they want 16 back they can just adapt the android 21 arc

>desu it feels like they regret killing 16 and gave 17 the characteristics of 16
Just rebuild him then or could've bullshitted time travel last arc with a future 16 from another split timeline.

>doesn't know how KI works in dragon ball
bruh

This is likely the correct answer.
maybe it's just a break tho, and they continue the story later

Why?

>he thinks the spirit bomb is made of KI

In the manga is explained that 17 and 18 were able to heard shit while being fused with Cell so 17 probably was influenced by 16's speech

>tfw started on Global

Would honestly be more entertaining than the entirety of super. I'd be nice to have the Ginyu Foce and Cell back.

nice attempt retard I am talking about Kefla KI.

Soon... ish.

>Lets kill him off again

What about it?

>célula platino

that spirit bomb was super weak
It was easily pushed back by jiren who was hurt by attacks that looked way less impressive

Leave Jiren to me.

it shots up when they autistic scream in place, doesn't mean shit once they get to actually fight.

>that spirit bomb was super weak
That is why it triggered UI goku ?
god damn this fanbase

>retard compares a genki dama to a fighter
power alone means shit, remember trunks vs cell?

it didn't kill him, therefore its not stronger than him

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>genki dama to a fighter
Retard
a Fighter is capable of generating more power via techniques
If kefla already comparable to that energy then her attacks are even stronger
Watch Goku and piccolo vs raditz
LOL

Utter disappointment, like everything in this shitshow of an arc

no argument, concession accepted.

The reason fat guy was weaker was because fat kai's innocence subconsciously restricted his power

>no argument
>It triggered UI
Nigger Kaioken goku would've died if he had not transformed

nice headcanon

>Tfw el grande padre saying goku died was just headcanon

>they didn't see his body
>they assumed he died
>h-headcanon

>SSG Goku =

>goku used a move weaker than him as last resort
what a retard our hero

nah, eat shit

consensus is that episode is one of the best of the whole show

>Calls someone else second fiddle
>Becomes a GoD
>Jobs hard to that second fiddle
The humiliation levels are over 500%.

which he is