Second compilation movie is out. Here's the changes according to 2ch:
No getting drifted to Kaminejima Island. No Euphie helping/saving Nina, but but she still falls for her. Lelouch and Euphie's first meeting is during school festival. No Nina going retard with Ganymede during Black Rebellion. No phone call between Lelouch and Suzaku before Black Rebellion. A new scene with Kaguya and Kallen spill tears at the end of Black Rebellion. Restoring Lelouch's memory is skipped. Lelouch trying to get Rolo on his side is skipped. Suzaku doesn't return to school, so no phone call between Nunnally and Lelouch. No Lelouch going angsty, attempting refrain, trying to bang Kallen, etc. No 'One Million Zero' event. No battle with Chinese Federation. Karen still becomes a prisoner somehow but conversation with Nunnally and Suzaku is skipped. Jeremiah cancelled Charles's geass on Shirley, she found out Lelouch is Zero but accept it quickly, Jeremiah told Shirley not to get involved. No Rolo killing Shirley either. Despite Shirley being alive, Geass Order still get annihilated. Ends with R2's episode 'Taste of Earth/Humiliation'.
Matthew Wood
>No 'One Million Zero' event. I can't believe this
Josiah Anderson
Ah, so it's inferior to the series.
Owen Perez
So are the compilation movies considered the new canon as we head towards R3?
Gavin Sanders
It seems the idea is that certain events still happened, just off-screen, but whatever wasn't strictly essentially was cut.
For example, the movie skips most of the first half of R2, which is made easier because it focuses on Suzaku's point of view during that period.
Gawain was initially taken by India in the movie, so it's Mordred that shows up on the island instead .
For that matter, apparently Gawain seems to see more activity in general.
There is more added to the downfall of the Black Rebellion than just the tears.
Personally, I always thought most of R2 was a waste of time outside of the meme factor so this is fine by me.
Isaac Fisher
By the way, apparently there is twice as much new animation in the second film than in the first one.
I've heard the new scenes in the earlier movie were like five minutes, so this one should be about ten.
Ryan Jackson
The movies were a mistake, a huge mistake
Andrew Cox
Also...Rolo's screentime is massively reduced yet he does get a new scene with Suzaku where his real name is mentioned in early R2 (right between seasons, I am guessing?).
Tyler Martinez
I will probably rewatch the movies more than the series. Getting straight to the point and not messing around due to the timeslot is not a bad change.
It seems the second movie compressed the most and the third one should be mainly Emperor Lelouch, which is not a bad idea.
Nicholas Gutierrez
Seems like they really just want to focus on the last part of the R2. Hope there's plenty of original material there.
Carson Ortiz
>So are the compilation movies considered the new canon as we head towards R3? This had been the tradition going all the way back to the original Mobile Suit Gundam. The movies are a way for the new audience to catch up, so everything not in these films are of questionable canonicality.
Zachary Stewart
>No Rolo killing Shirley either. >Despite Shirley being alive What the fuck? So they've retconned her death now?
Justin Phillips
>Rolo doesn't kill Shirley
This is a huge change. Is she gonna die in some other way then?
Robert Sanders
>This is a huge change. Is she gonna die in some other way then? She just might have reduced importance, since there is no room for her to get any character development.
Brandon Martinez
a) Shirley deserves a chance to be a normal person. She suffered too much in the TV series. b) If you really want her to die, she might in the last movie.
Josiah Rodriguez
I just don't like retconning, especially something like a character death.
Oliver Diaz
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Jordan Miller
If there's not enough time to make Shirley important, still killing her would be silly.
Luke Allen
but it doesnt matter what the fuck she does or her importance as a person, Lelouch's reaction is what's important. It's what made him go from hating to fucking boilng with anger despising Rolo to the point of barely being able to maintain a facade in front of him. Some could argue it's the defining moment that made him decide on going through with the zero requiem, realizing that the last person who really mattered to "lelouch lamperouge" was gone.
Jack Morris
This. >a) Shirley deserves a chance to be a normal person. Shirley doesn't deserve squat, she's a fictional fucking character and her death had huge impact and was great motivation for Lelouch.
Ryder Wilson
Shirley's death was an important event though.
Colton Brooks
Lelouch already had enough motivation and revenge for Shirley would be like third tier compared to his main goals.
Grayson Mitchell
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Angel Long
>No Lelouch going angsty, attempting refrain, trying to bang Kallen, etc. >Karen still becomes a prisoner somehow but conversation with Nunnally and Suzaku is skipped. Kallen is getting cucked so hard in these movies. >No Rolo killing Shirley either. I'm more curious as to how and for what purpose she'll die in the next movie.
Jaxson Young
revenge =/= the actions of the zero requiem, or even giving a shit about the common people.
If you don't think Lelouch was a selfish person before Shirley's death then you need to rewatch the series.
Evan Wilson
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Tyler Lee
Lookin good
Ethan Fisher
Her death made Rolo's death more emotional and was one of the reasons why Lelouch decided to take responsibility for everything in the end with Zero Requiem. Or are they going to keep Rolo alive too and Lelouch just does Zero Requiem on a whim?
Caleb Nelson
It's pretty clear that C.C. was going to win either way and so not pretending Kallen would have a chance is rational.
Juan Murphy
unacceptable
Juan Lopez
>would be like There is no "would be like", watch the fucking anime already. It happened.
Samuel Garcia
Lelouch was never completely selfish, nor was he completely selfless after Shirley died.
Luke Price
Why?
Leo Bailey
>Shirley's death was an important event though. Only if she had enough screentime to establish her importance. She is not important enough to get an arc of her own in a 3 film compilation.
Bentley Reyes
Shirley's death was part of the long list of traumatic events that fed into Lelouch's actions.
Caleb Cooper
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Levi Diaz
I really hope these changes aren't reflected in R3. I'd be pretty pissed if all these changes in things being cut out overwrite the actual anime.
Ryan Gutierrez
Way to not address the point.
Isaiah Clark
So what the hell is the transition from the Black Rebellion to Lelouch having his memories already returned going to look like. Thats quite the jump. There's so many good scenes they're skipping.
Jacob Martinez
I guess it really has been too long, most of this is lost on me.
Gabriel Nguyen
The death was important, not the character itself. It was an event which set off/contributed to some other significant events in the series.
Logan Cook
>I really hope these changes aren't reflected in R3. I'd be pretty pissed if all these changes in things being cut out overwrite the actual anime. It's not up to you.
Anime has a long tradition of the studio deciding what is and isn't canon. And retoconning anything they want, at any time. This is how Anime operates, and had been the case for decades. Japan just don't give a shit about enforcing consistency.
Austin Peterson
> compilation movie w h y h y
Chase Russell
There's a lot of good scenes in early R2 that, from a writing perspective and not making the films four hours long, are unnecessary or redundant.
Caleb Russell
like the other user said, you kinda dodged the point completely.
Regardless >lelouch after shirley's death >gives up his wealth, title, name and power >is ok with the world, even his sister hating him (he didnt know for certain nunally would understand in the end) >willing to lose LITERALLY everything except CC for the good of the world >somehow not completely selfless
shirley was definitely a large contributing factor to why he was able to do this. One of the things most people miss watching the series for the first time is that Suzaku became much more ruthless when Euphie died, while Lelouch ultimately grew to care for others with the deaths of Shirley/Rolo. It's a big fucking thing.
Mason Wilson
I have faith in R3 following the series closer than the movies. But I can also see the movies having a bit of impact depending on what goes on in the last one.
Lucas Nguyen
I imagine that's part of what comes from showing Suzaku's point of view so there's not much of a mystery left nor a need to make a huge deal about how Lelouch come back.
Brayden Lewis
Money and disrespect.
Jeremiah White
You sound like the same person.
>lelouch after shirley's death >gives up his wealth, title, name and power >is ok with the world, even his sister hating him (he didnt know for certain nunally would understand in the end)
That wasn't just because of Shirley. In fact, he was still quite willing to keep all those things until R2 episode 19.
>willing to lose LITERALLY everything except CC for the good of the world >somehow not completely selfless
Kevin Morales
They wouldn't cut the rafter scene right?
Kevin Rivera
Because the show is getting hilariously old and it's possible for you to enjoy many of the new scenes while still having the main series as a reference point.
Isaiah Miller
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Joshua Hernandez
>> compilation movie >w h y >h >y In case you forgot, user, it had been TEN YEARS. If Sunrise wants new audiences to watch the 3rd season, they are going to have to make something for the newcomers to watch in order to get up to speed. Also, they would want to retcon anything they regret before starting the new season.
This makes sense financially. So i have no idea why you are objecting to this when it is proven time and time again. Hell, Mobile Suit Gundam was SAVED by its compilation film.
Christopher King
Hinoboru-ryu Makoto-ichi-Shiki Hurricane Kick!
Kayden Rodriguez
And you're a retarded newfag because you quoted 3 people who posted within the same minute earlier.
Jaxson Mitchell
Where's this from?
Elijah Johnson
something not being JUST because of 1 thing, doesnt mean that 1 thing isnt incredibly significant.
also those posts sound nothing alike, the only thing they have in common is calling you dumb.
Nathan Morales
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James Evans
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Ayden Perry
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Evan Ramirez
Is table rape still there?
Isaac Bennett
The table is no longer a victim.
James Barnes
>No Rolo killing Shirley either. Compilation movie confirmed not shit.
Luke Collins
This coloring looks like an in-joke from Eiji Nakada
Justin Nelson
Reviving Lelouch for R3 was an even bigger mistake.
Gavin Young
>REVIVING he says Can't revive what didn't stay dead.
Ryan Hughes
Third movie will cover R2 17 to 25, so it should probably have the best pacing of the trilogy.
Adam Jenkins
Sounds like butchering for the sake of changing completely the original ending.
Andrew Hernandez
>No Lelouch going angsty, attempting refrain, trying to bang Kallen, etc. This is good. >No 'One Million Zero' event. This is very bad. >Shirley lives Now this is just a huge mistake.
Daniel Stewart
Not much of this has any impact on the already figured out way that Zero could have survived the ending.
Juan Wilson
Compilations movies are always a mistake. The only exception would be the last 0079 and that's only because the TV show going through cancellation was affecting production.
Oliver Ramirez
R1 was 12 years ago.
Ian Rivera
One Million Zeroes is great for group watching but honestly...it makes very little sense even in-universe.
Shirley living (so far) doesn't bother me. SRW already did that.
Xavier Howard
Always liked how small the knightmare frames are. Probably some of the smallest mecha in any series?
Xavier Phillips
Most compilation movies are decent enough if you don't have easy access or enough time to watch the original material. Just have to accept you're getting a summary with a few changes (at most), not something truly novel anyway.
Brody Williams
>No Rolo killing Shirley either.
Nicholas Young
>if you don't have easy access or enough time to watch the original material Just read a fucking summary then. This is pure pleb logic. This is like the idiots who claim that they watch the show instead of the manga because it's less time consuming while this is the opposite.
>Just have to accept you're getting a summary with a few changes (at most), not something truly novel anyway
See just how plain retarded the idea sounds? Fucking retard.
Aiden Phillips
this makes me upset they bettter stay with T.V show canon
Camden Watson
Reading a summary is a lot less entertaining than watching a movie.
Leo Miller
The show was never perfect and it'll always exist for you to go back and watch it in any case.
Tyler Sanchez
They're pretty cool in that regard, yes. I can't remember a smaller type of mecha in anime right now.
Landon Baker
user stop being a goddamn tsundere and tell me where are these from? A new trailer?
Alexander Miller
>this makes me upset they bettter stay with T.V show canon I am pretty sure the show's writers themselves would rather the majority of the 2nd season be retconned away. They didn't follow the original plan they had, other than the ending. Basically the ending was the only thing they managed to rescue when higher-ups fucked them over.
Aaron Wilson
>Shirley lives So I'm guessing they're killing her in the last movie
Adrian Nguyen
Watching the compilations was to save up time but now that you can save up more time by reading summaries it's no good? Fucking retard, just read/watch the source material, else go read summaries. Compilations are stupid shit no one asked for or want.
Nolan Davis
A news article somewhere, most likely.
Parker Walker
Or not.
Jack Ramirez
Compilation movies are shit, but if these somehow fix the shitfest that was R2 I'm okay with it.
Nicholas Rogers
Apparently the replacement voice for V.V. sounds very similar, but the new Tianzi sounds totally different.
Connor Jackson
>Fucking retard, just read/watch the source material, else go read summaries. Sunrise has no intention of deliberately blocking new fans from paying money. You might want to go elitist and try to enforce your way of watching the show, but you are not the one with a TV series to market.
It is well known that hardcore fans tend to WANT studios to lose money.
William Carter
At least it's cutting out a lot of the filler/remixed filler that wasn't necessarily terrible all the time but made the second half's episodes more rushed than they needed to be.
Xavier Barnes
>Compilation movies are shit, but if these somehow fix the shitfest that was R2 I'm okay with it. >At least it's cutting out a lot of the filler/remixed filler that wasn't necessarily terrible all the time but made the second half's episodes more rushed than they needed to be. If 2nd season was not drowned with fillers, I would have expected Sunrise to spend FOUR films for compilation. They went for Three, purely because they know much of 2nd season was junk.
Nolan Brown
>No Lelouch going angsty, attempting refrain, trying to bang Kallen, etc. This kills the Kallenfags.
>Despite Shirley being alive, Geass Order still get annihilated. I don't dislike this.
Ryder Miller
The hell? Shirley dying was a pretty damn big moment.
Sebastian Edwards
>Ends with R2's episode 'Taste of Earth/Humiliation' I'm suddenly looking forward to the last movie
Matthew Bennett
>Shirley not dying Wait so will this be a new canon? or will she just be dying later
Isaac Flores
>This kills the Kallenfags. Not where I am standing. It is a good way for Kallen's arc to actually happen in S3 without the garbage from season 2.
Anthony Turner
>>Shirley fucking survives What the fuck.
Ian Gomez
No, they are gonna kill her in R3, you can't have a Code Geass season without Shirley getting shat on in an arc.
Jaxon Reyes
>Kallen's arc With Shirley alive, Lelouch not going to Kallen for 'comfort' and movie 2 ending where it does, I happily doubt it.