What makes Naruto bad? I've never watched it or read the manga but I hate it and when people ask me why I want to tell them why it's bad.
What makes Naruto bad...
It actually starts out bretty gud, but after a certain point (orochimaru v hokage / nardo v gaara) it stops being about kid ninjas trying to make it in their crazy world and turns into nonsensicle waaaay over the top bullshit
There really is no one reason why, it had promise but turned into a shitfest really quick.
I recall there was an episode of them just jumping through trees the entire duration of the episode with some conversation.
should tell you enough
Sasuke Retrieval Arc was still good, I think the show went to shit sometime around Shippuden
The anime or the manga? The anime was practically always bad, it's sorta animated and directed like shit, and paced like it too. The manga was pretty alright for a while, like 8 volumes, because it had like some nice strategies, and Kishi's utilitarianistic idealogies bleed into like every element of it, despite the main character having opposing beliefs to that, which is interestin. Kishi's paneling and perspectives were always very mediocre, though they don't get terrible until later. mainly the reasons it gets bad are like super simple, awful contrived plot twists, fights are boring and dumb, characters are empty, etc.
Right after the Pain Arc.
You just had to have been there in the early 00s when the Naruto craze was in full bloom to see what a typical Narutard looked like.
It's actually not bad
It's not amazing, but there's a reason it was so popular
People shit on Naruto because the fans are bad. The whole "Naruto is a gateway anime..." copypasta doesn't contain any well thought out criticisms of the manga/anime itself, but it's fandom
Same thing as most Shounen.
Starts off somewhat interesting with solid 'powerlevels' and whatever gimmick that makes the world unique being explored, and then it either gets canceled, or takes the fuck off in popularity.
Then the mangaka has to either infinitely ramp up the Spectacle to keep readers entertained, or let things develop more slowly and risk losing the attention of the 12 year old target demographic.
For example, at the start of Nurutu, you're told Zabuza (big sword dude) kicks all kinds of ass because he's stealthy, cunning, and can throw around dragons made of water.
You're told Kakashi kicks all kinds of ass because he knows a whole damn lot of ninja magic, is pretty fast, can summon dogs, and can mindgame people to literal death.
You're told the Second Hokage was God Tier because he could do water ninjutsu with only the water in the air.
Two arcs later you have people with Super Tuberculosis summoning fucking bone forests and being actually indestructible, a kid who was worthless literally three months ago flying around with Kakashi's entire skillset, and a walking nuclear bomb.
At the end of the series, it's Giant Magic Robots fighting on the fucking Moon.
Powercreep killed Naruto.
Sasuke Retrieval-era Sasuke would destroy Wave Arc Zabuza and Kakashi. At the same time.
It got so bad they had to actually retcon past characters (the previous Hokage) to make them still look like the godlike ninja wizards they were made out to be at the start.
Minato was said to be the GOAT because he could fucking teleport.
But apparently everything Minato did, the Second Hokage (who before was good because he could draw water from the air) did first, and now all the previous Greatest of All Time is suddenly just pretty fast.
The fucking 3rd Tsuchikage drops actual, literal nukes on people.
At some point in Shippuden it basically becomes DBZ:Naruto and Uchihas edition. All the diverse fights and powers in the Chuunin exams or Zabusa's arc- just forget them.
At what point was it revealed that Hagoromo created the moon
Because that was probably just foreshadowing that they were going to fight moon demons
No cute girls.
sasuke becoming a fucking edgelord ruined the manga, he was already edgy at the beginning but he used to be a mostly cool dude
People like to hate whatever's popular.
Everybody wanted to ride saugay dick
Chunin exams were great until it stopped being about ninjas and turned into some kind of DBZ spoof.
Honestly, what does god mode and Susanoo avatars gotta do with ninjas.
When was the last time they threw real metal shurikens.
IT was good at the beginning then years long of filler tarnished the anime while the manga on the other hand was doing asspulls behinds asspulls
I've always found the characters ugly-looking (it used to be a running joke among my friends that Kishimoto's guys were more attractive than his girls, eg. Haku, Deidara) and the comedy is really cringey for anyone whose balls have already dropped. Although I mostly liked the first third (pre-timeskip), the second third oscillated between sterile (Akatskui-focused) and homoerotic (Sasuke-focused); and the final third was just a complete slog into absurdity (the war). In the final battle, Naruto and Sasuke gained like three power-ups in a row and it became absolutely impossible to keep track of who could do what. The final boss also went from the not-actually-dead-childhood-friend-impersonating-a-legendary-figure-that-everyone-and-their-mom-foresaw to the actual legendary figure to a side-character that was suddenly incredibly important to an ancient moon god lady thing, and Team 7 basically fought her in space - in another dimension.
I think a lot of people got into Naruto expecting that each arc would involve lots of cliche ninja stuff and the characters would go around the world, introducing us to new countries and their unique cultures, and getting involved in all sorts of crazy political drama and assassinations and wars and stuff like that.
That didn't happen. 95% of the manga deals with either Naruto being hunted by Akatsuki for his tailed beast or Sasuke wanting revenge. Both plots are actually two sides of the same plot and Naruto and Sasuke end up being revealed by the end of the series to be the spiritual reincarnation of the very first ninja's two kids and every single antagonist's motives throughout the series has actually been their attempt to combine these two essences to recreate the first ninja or something like that.
Basically, Naruto was really about the universe wanting these two people to fuck and have a baby, but they can't because they're both dudes.
Although over the top, the ninjutsus are fucking awesome. Don't try to deny it, anons.
>When was the last time they threw real metal shurikens.
That one bitch did it all the time.
>out flies 1000 shurikens
>not a single one hits the target
Shippuden was great until they revealed all Akatsuki members. I liked it better when it was only Sasori and Deidara
here's your (you) faggot
I feel like this is also one of the reasons FMA:B is still considered one of the best shounens ever made, even though it was rather short.
Akatsuki was awesome. So were the resurrected Kages. I think Kishimoto sort of fucked up the power scaling, though. We went from 13-year olds still learning how to master their clan's unique skills to top tier ninjas in one arc. I think part of the problem was Kishimoto couldn't figure out enough reasons to have these newbie kids fighting dangerous people when villages could just send their more competent adults to obliterate any mid-level opponents they come across.
Imagine being so mad about Sup Forums rejecting nuruturd samefaggot that user made this bitchy passive aggressive thread
I can't because I have no qualms about calling the series shit when it is shit!
Holy shit, reading this makes me so sad because I loved Naruto with all my heart at one point. To see a series I remember being so unique turns into a DBZ-esque theme just saddens me.
Yeah as far as the anime goes its horribly paced and streched out with flashbacks and I believe about 45% of the anime is filler not an exaggeration.
I still like the manga after following it for all those years
Oops. Wrong pic.
Also they did kiss
It was like 55% filter I shit you not
The entirety of Shippuden, Kishi did not give a single shit later on
The protagonist is insufferable. He's a lazy retard that screams like an autistic every time he enters the room that he wants to be ninja president.
Then you have Sakura whose entire character can be summer up as "she has a crush on a boy" yet she still manages to be disappointing.
Sasuke is the only competent one but because he's the "I'm too cool for everyone loner" you loose any chance at having good interactions between other characters.
Basically they are all walking tropes.
I stopped watching halfway through Chuunin exams.
What did I miss? All I know is that Orochimaru stops being relevant, everyone in Konoha gets killed and then revived and the final boss is literally Kaguya the moon princess.
Final Boss changes like six times at the end, it's powercreep as fuck
(Actual spoiler) Neji dies. And he stays dead. Also, Naruto and Hinata get together,
causing mass butthurt worldwide.
Hell, Shippuden was decent until Pain. After that Kishi runs out of things to do for Naruto for a while, and focuses on Sasuke almost entirely. And that was kinda fine until he dealt with Itachi, which should've closed his character arc, but then the war happened.
And that lasted fucking years.
>But apparently everything Minato did, the Second Hokage (who before was good because he could draw water from the air) did first, and now all the previous Greatest of All Time is suddenly just pretty fast.
Yeah, it actually became funny: whenever you'd see a new technique you'd just imagine the Second Hokage leaning in saying, "I invented that."
This really brings to mind one of the biggest things fans were growing to hate about Naruto that I saw blossoming at the end of the Hidan/Kakuzu Arc, and that's that the series's own messages were bullshit. There's supposed to be this theme of the new surpassing the old, but Kishimoto just can't help himself when coming up with all of these legendary badasses and it makes "the old" look so much more fucking awesome than "the new". Obviously, there's some context to be had there, but if it were so true to begin with then the armor of zombies shouldn't have even been a problem, since surely modern ninjas should be stronger, right? I just don't think he should've gone that direction, at all, to begin with. I also think having the ninja world be, what, 60 years old was a mistake. People like the First Hokage and Madara are talked about as if they're these mythical beings, when really there should be old people all over the place that knew them personally.
The other message being about hard work vs. blood. Everything Naruto said to Neji was bunk and then Neji himself dies the way he was always fated to, but he swears - no srsly gaiz - he CHOSE to do it. Sure. What a coincidence that the son of the greatest ninja is the new greatest ninja and the guy fated to die protecting his moeblob cousin dies protesting her. But yeah, keep up the hard work, kids!
Kakashi killed his childhoodfriend's crush and now he swore revenge, his name is Obito and he is a failure
some uchiha dude who everyone thought was dead just like obito comes back and says farewell to his ancient bro
Then Kaguya,a Moon rabbit princess MILF comes who originally created chakra and Naruto defeats her through a Reverse harem jutsu
We may have Ninjas in space in Boruto
Shippuden was never decent.
shows naturally enter a downward spiral whenever marketing starts making calls
Gotta love how Naruto's character development got thrown out the window after the pain arc. Goes right back to acting like a retard and doesn't even acknowledge the fact that Hinata confessed her love to him and basically all but died to protect him.
Uchihas ruined the series.
I found out about the Hall of Anal Devastation after the same thing happened in Bleach. Now I think the series was worth it just for that.
Is it true Sasuke basically just fucks Sakura and leaves her to raise their daughter all by herself?
The themes were always rocky because the main character was lazy and utterally failed at the group dynamic which contradicted the central themes of the show.
Nearly all of the girls make it unwatchable. Characterless husks with the most generic trope traits and nothing more. Always the same jokes over and over again. Going full retarded with power levels. I mean freaking Kakashi who was one of the most powerful ninjas of his time ends up being weaker than Sasuke not even halfway through the original series.
Itachi was part of Akatsuki that was run by Pain who was a corpse controlled by Nagato who took orders from Obito who was pretending to be Madara and was actually the apprentice of Madara who was being manipulated by Black Zetsu who was really the will of Kaguya.
She's a single mother yes, disappointment until the end. And shes a really, really shitty mother. At one point Salad calls her out on all her shit and vents her frustration at her mothet keeping secrets and growing up without a dad and sakura just yells at her daughter and punches the ground (hard enough to break their house) in rage instead of talking to her daughter like a normal adult
It takes Naruto to step in and act like a parental figure to prevent her from running away
I would have liked Naruto a lot more if we saw him mature into who he is in Boruto.
You're really exaggerating Sakura there. She's fine.
naruto proved himself worthy of hokage after that, should've been followed by the the final sasuke arc and ended there with him bringing sasuke back and naruto becoming hokage
1: autistic fandom
2: naruto is a literal doorstep and let's people walk all over him
3: people compare naruto to dragon ball...are you fucking kidding me? they're nothing alike. If your gonna compare characters by their attire, at least throw toriko in the mix
>no cute girls
>posts useless sakura
you really have abysmal taste, faggot
That doesn't surprise at all from Sakura. Her dumb obsession with Sasuke made her a bad character AND a bad person too.
What did he overexaggerate?
Sakura herself says that she's a terrible mother.
How's it like to literally eat shit?
you must be gay as fuck if you like sakura
you also must love pain inflicted on you
It wasn't bad to start out with but the fact that she never grew out of it is what made it bad. I don't mind a teenager being annoying with a crush but a grown adult keeping that shit up is pathetic
Naruto is a gateway anime of the worst kind. It's a bad series, a clusterfuck of story and characterization that isn't very well done by any aspect, but which attempts to compensate for its weaknesses by adding in excessive shipping faggotry and DARKNESS. The normal user can see this as the shit it is, and may enjoy it, hate it or be indifferent to it, but all the while recognizing that the series itself, regardless of their opinion, is plain bad.
However, these very aspects that try to smear over the shit of its core make it a breeding ground for aspie, unsociable underageb& faggots who engage in every kind of faggotry both online and in the real world. The superpowered characters all trying their hardest to look cool, the jutsus, peculiar, colorful clothes, the whole ninja faggotry and everything about the Naruto world fuels their escapist fantasies, while the pity-party character backgrounds, emphasis on revenge, and overall preachiness of the series make it fit just right with the mary-sueish drives of your average preteen and his sense of unwarranted self-importance towards the world. Exactly the kind of shit that makes little kiddies and underageb& retards eat this shit right the fuck up.
Naruto is basically THE series to attract the most hated anime fanbase known to Sup Forums, which is why, regardless of individual opinions, it is the responsibility of every user to troll the fuck out of this show and everyone who likes it, and ensure that no Naruto threads ever encourage the newfriends to show their faces here.
Yes, but shippers are retarded. These aren't romance dramas, they're action fantasies. The author always creates a character to be the designated love interest and their only real value is to give birth to the main character's kids, because someone has to do it. Thinking Sakura or Rukia would end up with the main character is sheer delusion. I think they're mostly female fans who hate the fact that the competent friend loses out to the perpetually fainting walking uterus; and if so, I can't say I don't sympathize, but it's just not logical.
Holy fuck, I knew Sakura had the shittiest writing in Shippuden but with this, no female character will ever be written worse than Sakura's. I feel so bad for her.
don't feel bad for someone who only has a one way direction path in life
Nothing. It's a 10/10 show. Skip the fillers. Sasuke is a complex character. The fights are dope.
Naruto is ninja president leading his nation into a modern world
Sasuke is doing his loner shit he loves hunting down threats and protecting the world from threats
Sakura is a single mother and works a fucking day job
>Saying Sakura is a single mother (Misconception).
>Saying she's a "disappointment" (She is not).
>Calling her a shitty mother (She is not).
>Thinly implying she's immature.
I can see that poster didn't look further into the contexts he's criticizing her about.
It's called humility, user.
He's fucking exaggerating. Disregard his post.
>Sasuke is a complex character
he's an emo faggot
>the fights are dopey
>Liking the most beautifully designed female character is "gay as fuck".
Sounds like you're the gay one here, user.
Okay so she's totally not a single parent, she just raises her child alone and works a job to pay the bills (which she said she struggles with)
you mean the bitchy behaviour and being a flatty?
nice argument narutard, go hang yourself
I dropped the manga after best boy Neji was killed off.
How is he a complex character? He's a loner out for revenge and compromises his values and ethics for power. That's D tier at best
the only thing i liked about naruto was their rap song
Nobody knows who tobi really is
What about her is beautiful? She's kind of plain, her only characteristic is having pink hair. And her personality is shit
>Nobody knows who tobi really is
He's Obito Uchiha.
Everything is legendary like Uchiha Madara
I'm the puppeteer who attacks you face to face
Call me Sasori the teacher of Deidara
He destroys Kankuro and Deidara killed Gaara
>the Third Hokage proceeds to look like a fucking joke because he killed himself over Orochimaru, the weakes member of an organizaion of jobbers
Nothing. It's decent for a battle shounen, not that that's saying much. It does take a nosedive in pretty much everything, though.
The only Akatsuki members who jobbed were Kakuzu and Deidara.
Watch Ninja Scroll, then watch Basilisk konga ninpou, then watch Naruto.
You now understand why Naruto is shit...
Naruto is a gateway anime of the worst kind. It's a bad series, a clusterfuck of story and characterization that isn't very well done by any aspect, but which attempts to compensate for its weaknesses by adding in excessive shipping faggotry and DARKNESS. The normal user can see this as the shit it is, and may enjoy it, hate it or be indifferent to it, but all the while recognizing that the series itself, regardless of their opinion, is plain bad. However, these very aspects that try to smear over the shit of its core make it a breeding ground for aspie, unsociable underageb& faggots who engage in every kind of faggotry both online and in the real world. The superpowered characters all trying their hardest to look cool, the jutsus, peculiar, colorful clothes, the whole ninja faggotry and everything about the Naruto world fuels their escapist fantasies, while the pity-party character backgrounds, emphasis on revenge, and overall preachiness of the series make it fit just right with the mary-sueish drives of your average preteen and his sense of unwarranted self-importance towards the world. Exactly the kind of shit that makes little kiddies and underageb& retards eat this shit right the fuck up. Naruto is basically THE series to attract the most hated anime fanbase known to Sup Forums, which is why, regardless of individual opinions, it is the responsibility of every user to troll the fuck out of this show and everyone who likes it, and ensure that no Naruto threads ever encourage the newfriends to show their faces here. That being said, AB is really great, but Nyaa.eu and BakaBT are easier to get into.
And Sasori, and Hidan, and Konan, and Kisame...
Fuck off, Kisam didn't job. He went out like a fucking boss.
Let himself die.
Outsmarted by a genius.
Female and lost to an Uchiha with very special and advanced eyehax.
Killed himself so wouldn't be detained or killed by his foes.
>Sakura is a single mother who wasted her entire life for chasing after an edgy badboy
>Sasuke just doesn't give a fuck about family
I think this is by far the most realistic thing to happen in Naruto.
I read the entire manga, it's true.
But at the same time, the manga lacks in information that the anime provides, and most of secondary characters are almost invisible in manga, but get some characterization in the fillers.
Overall story aside, I really hate how the powerlevels got insane. The fights were pretty interesting and tense until a certain point. The series should have never gone past Third vs Orochimaru in terms of raw power.
First Arc was great, then it turned into a DBZ filler fest with more fillers than actual episodes. Plus it's mainstream and kids run down the halls like spergs.
Probably because normalfaggots actually refer to it unironicly
Exactly, to make Sasuke Retrieval Arc he destroyed Konoha, so the adult ninjas would scatter to fulfill missions, giving the kids the spotlight.
Boruto has the same problem with Naruto as Hokage. Why the kids are important when you have awesome adults to resolve dangerous missions?
Or Naruto leaves the village to visit other countries, being Boruto the main character which would solve future problems.... or Boruto is sent to those countries where he can get the spotlight (like the other user have suggested).
I got into Naruto from the games. I've heard all of the criticism and I think I'll stick to the first series. I'm at episode 90. I like it, the atmosphere of Konoha and the designs remind me of my childhood. It's just a mid-tier show with really lovable characters and sometimes jaw dropping animation. But it's not the best thing ever. Hate it when the episode is animated by Koreans
It used to be about magic ninjas in a magic ninja academy in a weird city but then went full retarded with edgemasters, prophesies and bloodlines being the only thing that matters.