I think they did the Galan scenes enough justice.
Nanatsu No Taizai
Marciel a cute
The living proof that Godesses did nothing wrong.
How exactly did Estarossa get pwned by Escanor when he's the reason the previous owner of Escanor's superpower kicked the bucket? I smell shenanigans.
Did everyone forget about Estarossa commandment? if you feel hatred you become powerless, not really that hard to imagine how he defeated Mael.
He might have fought him at night or with the help of Chandler. But there also is the theory that Estarossa is the real Meliodas or actually the 4th arcangel brainwashed. I'm more into the first theory though
He went and killed Mael anytime between 6 PM and 6 AM I guess.
They censored the best part.
Diane's boob cut in half.
I guess her only purpose was to get eaten by Cath. To think that some people actually thought she was Estarossa's master.
I don't usually expect my fetish in manga's
No fucking way she is dead. She looks like a cute Frankenstein monster already. Do you really think that soulless Demon could have killed such a smart cutie? She is also one of the few people Estarossa cared to speak to onscreen. She will be back soon. And Galand. And the Mist Knight (mia). And Freesia from the Weird Fangs. And that nameless cute maid who was turned into a low-ranking demon and killed by Jobbed from Pleiades. And Nerobasta. RIP Dolores though.
But Peronia will be back sooner.
This is the page right after that one. She doesn't look so good.
If escanor had no hatred why would an archangel with similar power would
I saw it so what? She is alive. Nakaba wouldn't introduce a character oggling Estarossa's cock and pissing herself at the sight of Meliodas's powerlevels just to have her immediately offed by a soulless demon. She has too much personality and too little revealed about her to be done already.
I don't think she has that much of a personality but I do expect her to show up in a flashback or something. Or maybe she'll take over Cath from the inside and turn it into the monster it's supposed to be.
We've been over this before
I think she has plenty enough. Yeah, I count her design towards personality too. She has too much of a unique design to be done already too.
>show up in a flashback or something
If Nakaba really goes with her dying, showing her in a flashback would be unnecessary and stupid. She is not Nerobasta (who too is most likely alive since it was just possession bro). Nerobasta had a teasing image in Denzel's sword, a grand introduction and a chapter dedicated to getting scared of and being easily beaten by Derrierie. That's much more than what Peronia got so far and comparatively speaking it wouldn't be strange for Nakaba to have her killed there. In contrast Peronia has too much teased to be just a one-off character and too little to done already. That's how I feel.
The Sun's power is not necessarily tied to the Pride of the user.
Is Escanor a half-goddess? That would explain why his body can hold a grace and also why Rosa was around to watch over him. Maybe she's a goddess who defected before the end of the war like the druid girls and her host body is actually Escanor's biological mother. Seeing how all the other goddesses reside in non-goddess bodies and Elizabeth is basically a human now Escanor was the only available host for the grace so it went to him by default. It would also maintain that comment about all the Sins representing different clans since currently both Escanor and Merlin appear to be humans.
Escanor is this way because he got his personality shaped by his power. If he is weak, he is acting like acoward in order to survive, if he is strong he knows he is OP, so he acts as prideful and arrogant as he wants.
That isnt the same for the archangel who got this power at some point just like the 10C.
>both Escanor and Merlin appear to be humans
In Merlin's case it was stated that she froze her time at the age 29/30, and with her real form being a little girl I think it's safe to say that the wizards she belonged to were not too human. Or it was her specifically.
>Escanor BTFOing us in west popularity and powerlevels
>King BTFOing us in jap popularity and getting best girl
>Ban BTFOing us in girl popularity
>Elizabeth BTFOing us by being worst girl
Meliodas bros... we need to put a stop to this. It’s not fair, we were supposed to be the strongest, most popular and get best girl.
>terrible yandere bitch that manipulated an innocent powerful Demon shota into falling in love with her, acts like a fucking psycho when Zeldris reveals that she has been dying and reincarnating on Meliodas for thousands of years, disgusts both her and Meliodas's parents, mind controlled entire Demon armies into turning away from battle, plans to control all clans of Britannia with her shota lovetoy by her side, makes a pact with Ludociel of all people, hates the idea of Meliodas becoming a DK because he would have to leave her, almost killed 2 of her foster family members by "accident", smugly tore off Ruin's mind-manipulating bell with her mouth, saved Half-Mouthed Mustache and Ass Girl
>not the best girl
You are not a true Meliodas fan, I see.
>Escanor's power is just one of the Supreme Deity's Graces (even if the most conditionally powerful)
>Escanor's power is just one of the Supreme Deity's Graces (even if the most conditionally powerful)
There's also something else going on with Escanor since he managed to partially activate the Grace at night, although that could just be because his body and mind have been altered by the Grace due to him having it from such a young age so he's no longer bound by the same rules. The fact that his soul alone was able to damage a commandment is also pretty weird. Then there's Merlin mentioning how his power is different from all the other clans but I think that's just Nakaba retconning stuff.
>The fact that his soul alone was able to damage a commandment is also pretty weird
Is it? Since Ludociel is still fast as fuck apparently, I think it's safe to assume that the Graces are bound to souls.
>Then there's Merlin mentioning how his power is different from all the other clans but I think that's just Nakaba retconning stuff
Merlin is far from all-knowing and powers of Archangels weren't even known by Demons, their mortal enemies (and vice versa for Goddesses knowing the powers of the Ten Commandments). And frankly it's still true, as the Supreme Deity's Grace is a unique power, and since Escanor possesses it, can't be found in any other clan.
Elizabeth is a miracle of the universe, I want to hold her hands forever
>I think they did the Galan scenes enough justice.
It could have been done better
Fuck you Estarossa, you team-killing bastard.
>the Graces are presumably half of the Supreme Deity's power divided into 4 parts, so 12.5% of her power
>Sunshine can be completely suppressed by Merlin's magic glasses
Just how fucking broken is Merlin? She can easily create items that not only interfere but outright nullify the powers of a deity. Hell she probably could've neutralized Galand's commandment by wearing an anti-petrification thong that day. The vampire king's magic or even Estarossa's darkness did fuck all to Sunshine but a piece of glass is completely effective.
Maybe those are night glasses or glasses filled with night Escanor's essence and force Escanor to live his daily life in the perpetual darkness that is his soul, a pitch dark land where no sun can be seen or hold its dominion over, a land that saps pride out of its inhabitants and a cursed country where no girlfriends dwell.
>they left out the boob being cut in half
they did great justice
This is why I hate anime made from shonen manga
not edgy enough for you?
I really like the dynamic between night-Escanor and daytime-Escanor. If he was constantly being a pompous twat it would get tiring fast but the night version balances that out nicely. It also makes his power easier to swallow since he could be beaten by basically anyone. That's also why I dislike this current iteration of Mel since he's edgy as fuck all the time and also extremely broken with no weaknesses. At least he's currently a bad guy so he doesn't overshadow the other Sins for once.
I simply don't like censor
Escanor is more powerful than Mael, he is literally the only human capable of taking Sunshine. The grace makes the user more powerful as the sun goes up, but it says nothing about getting more buff. Escanor's magic ability allows him to take Sunshine and that's probably what makes him more buff to accomodate to the grace. If anything, the SD gave Sunshine to Escanor to actually debuff him, at least at night. Remember, the graces are like the commandments, and they have the restriction of activating on the user too. Probably Sunshine doesn't just make you stronger at noon, but also makes you weaker at night. Without the grace, Escanor might be near noon every time. Escanor's power up will be someone taking the grace from him and he can finally start controlling his own power.
Estarossa was never a team player
Rest in peace drunk grandpa.
Can we rebuild Galand? I mean, it's a good sign that he didn't turn into a mess of metal, meat and blood, right?
In the anime seems that she simply lost her shoulder and arm.
Also the Tournament night transformation proves that Escanor can resist the grace's restriction on his power.
I think we're gonna need more that just some bottles of of glue
>Escanor is more powerful than Mael, he is literally the only human capable of taking Sunshine
We don't really know much about Mael's strength at this point, but if anything he should be stronger since he has goddess healing, flight and whatever else in addition to Sunshine.
>The grace makes the user more powerful as the sun goes up, but it says nothing about getting more buff
This is a good point, considering Mael in Ludo's memory wasn't anywhere near as buff as Escanor usually is.
>Escanor's magic ability allows him to take Sunshine and that's probably what makes him more buff to accomodate to the grace
I like this idea. Maybe his magic converts excess magic to physical strength or something, which gives him an outlet for the ridiculous amount of power that would normally rip a human apart.
>If anything, the SD gave Sunshine to Escanor to actually debuff him
It's doubtful that the SD gave Escanor his power, considering she should be in another dimension. Maybe the Grace simply traveled from body to body like a disease until it ran into one that didn't just die come daytime? Or maybe the Graces can be extracted like the Commandments and Rosa gave it to Escanor.
>Remember, the graces are like the commandments, and they have the restriction of activating on the user too
That's speculation. Sariel, Tarmiel and Ludo have all used their powers very freely. Sunshine seems to be an exception since it reacts to the Sun's position but even then Escanor was able to briefly use it at night, meaning it can be controlled to some extent. Considering that Zeldris could free the people of Camelot from Piety it suggests that the Commandments can also be affected by the holder or maybe that's the DK's power.
>Probably Sunshine doesn't just make you stronger at noon, but also makes you weaker at night. Without the grace, Escanor might be near noon every time
I don't buy this. Merlin's glasses return Escanor to his default state, which is his night form.
>Merlin's glasses return Escanor to his default state, which is his night form.
True, I forgot about that. But I belive Escanor could get buff and poweful without Sunshine too, and at some point it will be extracted from him. (Also Gawain has to get from somewhere sooner or later).
I just started the series, and am up to chapter 40. That said, I was wondering something.
We've already had many threads where we note how bad Fairy Tail is, considering that the world and its fighting systems are very rarely explained, an emphasis of fanservice over plot, a lack of urgency because no major named characters really die and the main cast is usually overpowered, and characters who don't really seem multi-faceted at all. However, from what I've seen so far, Nanatsu seems to have many of the same shortcomings.
Simply put, what does Nanatsu do that puts it above Fairy Tail?
Galand has already served his purpose in the story. Let's just hope he appears in a flashback with his Indura friend at some point.
I also think Sunshine will eventually be extracted from him but I think he'll just keep using it at anyway since he has somehow made it his own. Maybe he will become solar powered in a more literal sense, as in he actually takes in sunlight from the environment and uses that to get buff when needed. Rhitta would also help with that since it can store power.
Nice headcanon falseflagger.
Good world building (all the clans and whatnot), and it doesn't feel like the MC is asspulling his wins. The whole dynamic is different in Nantsu vs Fairy Tail
>A fights B
>B is getting absolutely rekt
>A uses special FORBIDDEN TECHNIQUE
>B is about to face total annihilation
>B walks through attack completely unscathed, unleashes beatdown on A
>A is raping B's friends
>B was in a coma this whole time
>A uses special FORBIDDEN TECHNIQUE
>B's friends are about to face total annihilation
>B shows up at the last minute, blocks attack and is completely unscathed
>B unleashes beatdown on A
Both spam standard shonen tropes, but nanatsu's feels more internally consistent than Fairy tail since you don't have characters randomly powering up in literally every arc mid-beatdown
>considering that the world and its fighting systems are very rarely explained
Actually one of nnt's strenghts is its setting, it does explain things albeit slowly. Powerlevels a shit, but there are still interesting things to look foward to.
>an emphasis of fanservice over plot
There's fanservice, but as shounen cliche and jrpg-ish the story is, it's important too.
>a lack of urgency because no major named characters really die and the main cast is usually overpowered
That I give you.
>characters who don't really seem multi-faceted at all
That I also kinda give you, but King, Gowther, Fraudrin, and even Meliodas with all the double-meaning in his words, have gotten good characterization. Overall, the characters and their interactions are really fun, though.
An actual well thought out plot. You won't see it on chapter 40, but the whole story is finished in Nakaba's head and he puts foreshadowings everywhere. Things from chapter 20 will gain whole new meaning 200 chapters later, every major twist was foreshaowed at least tens of chapters before, yet it's not too predictable, etc.
Also Nakaba's paneling is top tier, making the fights look good. And he is good with backgrounds too, which is most apparent in his medieval town designs.
>the world and its fighting systems are very rarely explained
Worldbuilding is a thousand times better than in FT, and it should be apparent by chapter 40. Simple fighting system doesn't mean it's poorly explained. Everyone can awaken a magic of their own if they are powerful enough, which is unique to them and based on their, genetics, personality and experience. Ban is a thief, he later awakens the power Snatch. King is the Fairy King, and all Fairy Kings have Disaster, Zaratras had Great thunder, and so his son develops a lightning style power too, etc. Others are more spoilery.
>emphasis of fanservice over plot
If you continue reading, you will experience a severe drop in fanservice. By chapter 80, it's basically completely gone for the rest of the series. I guess Nakaba thought you can only stay relevant in WSM with fanservice, but stopped after NNT was established enough on it's own.
>lack of urgency because no major named characters really die and the main cast is usually overpowered
This will stop by around chapter 80, than will zig-zag for a while.
>multi-faceted at all
This is always subjective, but characters do get developed constantly, with little arcs focusing on them. Ban, King, Meliodas will get theirs after chapter 100, Diane is a little underdeveloped though, and Gowther gets his much later.
Thanks for the answers. I appreciate that you guys answered my question honestly instead of just assuming it was bait and calling me a faggot.
Is the anime any good?
I'd suggest that you just read a bit more. Chapter 40 is pretty early on in the story and things are only just being set up at that point. It's easier to find answers to your particular questions if you're able to pinpoint specific issues that you have. As far as Fairy Tail goes I've seen some of the anime and read through the final arc of the manga and most of the things that you mentioned about it are true. What NnT does differently is largely in the writing I'd say. Nakaba had a good portion of if not the entire story already planned out so there's plenty of foreshadowing about future events and less asspulls and retcons. In terms of the criticism you made about FT, NnT doesn't explain all that much about the specifics of how magic works or delve into politics outside of the main conflict, fanservice keeps decreasing as the series goes on and becomes more serious, characters dying is more common but still somewhat unusual and the characters overall are more fleshed out. In terms of being overpowered that's bit of a nuanced point that would be a spoiler to explore, but suffice it to say that there won't be very many fights where the good guys can't even touch the villain until friendship power kicks in and they one-shot them. I think the biggest flaw with NnT is that there is a lot of powercreep which leaves some characters behind although there have been some isolated moments for them to shine in here and there. The first 100 chapters are pretty much just an introduction into the series and the next 25-50 are where the main conflict and most of the players are introduced.
S1 cut and/or changed some stuff so you're better off reading the manga for the first 100 chapters. S2 is looking pretty good so far but it doesn't do Nakaba's art justice. The music and VAs are nice though so maybe watch the moments you liked once you're done reading.
>its fighting systems are very rarely explained
What is there to explain about magic?
The world is clearly explained in NnT, it's a fantasy medievil Britannia. The one in FT is less coherent, it's like medieval fantasy but with random casinos, guns and other stuff.
>Simply put, what does Nanatsu do that puts it above Fairy Tail?
Everything? Besides maybe fanservice because Nakaba doesnt need it so much, compared to whatshisname.
I enjoyed FT in places before dropping it. It simply doesn't deliver, the author might do some interesting setups that make you expect something cool or epic but then leaves you with disappointment. Every single arc. How many STRONK enemies were there in FT? How many were defeated by MUH NAKAMA, going down after single hit even though they just dished out hundreds POWERFUL attacks on the goody character that totally left him/her unable to stand anymore? (Several times through the battle, by the way) How many last bosses were there in FT? How many were defeated by getting punched by the MC while all other characters were like "yeah, you go get 'em champ" instead of helping or something? There's not much character growth that I noticed and the MC defeats everyone with the same old punches he did since forever. So characters don't really progress in power either (even if the author want to make us believe that they do). Lucy was like the best in that regard since she at least had different Pokemons to collect and had to think a bit to defeat her enemies. Too bad she was practically a side character to the pink hair and red hair in the matter of being relevant.
There are no stakes for the good guys as they always survive, even the minor ones, that one guy who did die once barely counts and it was pretty early in the story.
Huge disappointments and plots leading nowhere? I dropped when the lightning dude one-shot a guys who were built up to be powerful from very early on.
I could go on but ehhhhhhhhhhh.
>Is the anime any good?
Some like it, some hate it. It adapts around 100 chapters in 24 episodes, which is a crazy pace, leading to some parts cut out that later will be important. Also it looks way worse than the manga. Backgrounds are bland and details are missing in the designs. Music is hype though, and it moves and in color. I would say stick to the manga, and only watch it after you are over chapter 100.
>Is the anime any good?
Even if some anons got introduced to the series with it and liked it, avoid it. It rushes a lot of events, skips some, and the quality isn't that good. The OST is nice, at least.
>but the whole story is finished in Nakaba's head and he puts foreshadowings everywhere
Not exactly the whole story. I am pretty sure that Dolor was a demon giant and Gloxinia was a tentacle loli at first, for example.
I'm also sure Gerheade and Glox were lovers before Nakaba wanted to up their similiarities with Elaine and King.
I think Dolor was always supposed to be Dolor. Matrona namedropped him not too much after he was shown, and he had that thing covering his face. And if Dolor was always Dolor, the same must apply to Glox. might be true though.
Four-armed Giant Demon first appeared in Chapter 109, Dolor was namedropped in Chapter 140+ or so. At first both prototypes had Demon powers (black wings), they don't anymore. Bag for Dolor served no purpose at all. Mind, Monspiet got his redesign even earlier than either of them and I loved his redesign 100%, while I am iffy about the redesigns that turned Demon Giant and Tentacle Loli into Dolor and Gloxinia.
But Dolor and Glox never had wings. Glox just floats like he supposed to and Dolor has a weird helicopter thing.
>mind controlled entire Demon armies into turning away from battle
Well, that's confirmed for sure.
She will be the final villain. This manipulating, backstabbing whore is the source of all conflict, ruining families and whole clans so she can achive world dominance.
Literally "Skystreet" in French.
Meh. Can't unsee.
>Dolor has a weird helicopter thing
Which is made of darkness.
>Glox just floats like he supposed
With darkened tentacles.
The anime has a morning timeslot so lets be glad they can still show blood
Shit, thats true.
That doesn't look like demon darkness. It's just the design for his tentacles.
Demons are supposed to have darkness on their bodies, Loli had it on the ends of her tentacles.
Buy the BD!
Zeldris, Estarosa and Galan had none on their bodies.
They can deactivate it but
Have black marks and use darkness powers.
Darkness wings and regeneration with darkness.
Dolor´s wings look the coolest after Galand´s, but it seems he was the slowest member at flying.
hmm Estarossa has 4 wings
>implying Esta's double wings caused by Mael's archangel influence aren't the coolest
His wings also look like black goddess wings.
>terrible yandere bitch that manipulated an innocent powerful Demon shota into falling in love with her, acts like a fucking psycho when Zeldris reveals that she has been dying and reincarnating on Meliodas for thousands of years, disgusts both her and Meliodas's parents, mind controlled entire Demon armies into turning away from battle, plans to control all clans of Britannia with her shota lovetoy by her side
wait is that a meme or is it confirmed? it would actually turn seven deadly sins into something worthy if it turned out to be a case of a deamon falling in love with an angel who just uses him but forgets about it
It's certainly possible, but it would be too big of a twist to pull off in a standard battle shounen. Though now that we know goddesses can brainwash, Eli making the demons stop fighting looks like actual brainwashing instead of being too pure. And since she is the daughter of the SD, being able to brainwash high level demons might be a possibilty. The only real obstacle in the way of this theory is that Meliodas and Elizabeth were lovers in Arthurian tales, and their offspring is Tristan, a member of the Round Table, who kind of has to exist, since Nakaba wants to make an Arthur sequel.
She could possibly both love and use him for extra crazy points and then get redeemed.
wtf? now i hate estarrosa
NO MAELFAG NO
>when there's no english subs
>but there's subs for your native language
I don't know why but this pic sexy.
Probably because this pic makes people relise Diane is made for brutal rape.
so his edgy brother actually wants to save him from the grasps of evil angel? that would be amazing plot twist and it would make the manga top iter.
So it won't happen.
I spotted a guy who doesn't read NnT.
Still hoping Gelda is alive or can be revived.
Because Escanor is the pinnacle of all races
woah what's the context? I've only seen anime? why does he hate meliodas if he had an affair as well?
Because Gelda isn't a filthy goddess
>Estarossa is actually a tragic hero who went mad after his beloved brother betrayed his family
>Zeldris is best boy and still cares for his family, even though his father only likes Mel, Estarossa is crazy, and his bro killed his waifu
>Elizabeth and Mel will defeat their parents and absorb their power
>final battle is Six deadly sins + Zeldris vs the new, evil gods
>Though now that we know goddesses can brainwash, Eli making the demons stop fighting looks like actual brainwashing instead of being too pure. And since she is the daughter of the SD, being able to brainwash high level demons might be a possibilty.
Makes me wonder if Meliodas was originally brainwashed into loving her, only for the effect to fade and get to truly fall for her. It makes no sense how Assault Mode Meliodas would consider being in a relationship with the opposing clan.
I remember when we were all hyped for tentacle-loli and it ended up being a bust.
betrayed his clan by a pussy
and isn´t the enemy
He even admitted that he feels nothing towards Elizabeth, he only does this because demons are honorable, and he did promise to lift Eli's curse. The DK probably only wants to eat Mel's emotions because the goddess brainwashing works through emotions.
Based on how Nakaba operates and what forshadowings we have, the SD used her brainwashing powers to make Eli and Mel fall in love in each life they get, but once the curse is lifted, it turns out they really started to love each other.
Ok but I would find it hard to believe that a divine being who literally has no strength at night wouldn't do everything in his power to make himself immune to night ambushes
so estarrosa used his indra/indura form?