A case for the best female director in the industry

So when Sup Forums is asked who is currently the most talented female director, most would seem to say Yamada. But i'm hoping to change your mind on this perspective. Yamada doesn't deserve the praise and adoration that she gets, garnering this much fanboyism. It's because she is a mediocre director backed by a rich studio that is filled with hundreds of trained staffs, unlike the rest of the industry. The studio inflated her visions with these glossy anime productions. In reality, she is just a young, spoiled brat sitting atop of a safe space in the anime industry. There are other actual talented female directors who worked their sweat to get where they are.

Matsumoto Rie, who directed Kekkai Sensen and Kyousougiga, both of these shows had unique sense of direction and animation in them. And Matsumoto had to work with industry strangers while making them, like the awful studio Toei and multiple freelance animators, while Yamada have all the in-house animators behind her back. Yet Matsumoto still managed to deliver more exciting end products than anything Yamada has ever made. She's also the sound director for Kekkai.

Sayo Yamamoto, she did storyboarding for Death Note, Ergo Proxy, E7, Redline, Eva movies, Samurai Champloo and directed The Woman Called Fujiko Mine. She have worked with studio SHAFT, Bones, Manglobe, WIT and Mappa, stepping out of her comfort zones again and again. Not only that, her anime original, Yuri on Ice is one of the best selling TV anime in history. Not just fujo anime but TV anime in general, leaving Free! behind in the dust.

Ishizuka Atsuko, just look at Sora Yori that's airing now, the contender for the best anime this season. The show's composition and direction thus far have been very excellent. Before this she had worked as the director for No Game No Life.

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Now let's have a look at Yamada. After the one-hit-wonder that is K-On, people have been putting her on a pedestal because she had just accomplished something moe (wow). After that, she made the flop called Tamako Market that nobody remembers. Then she co-directed Hibike Euphonium with her mentor Ishihara (mind you Ishihara did all the hard and technical work while she focuses on the aspect of "characterizations", wow so hard). You're telling me that you needed a second DIRECTOR to help you work with Euphonium, you big baby? After all the staff helping that you got, how many more crutches do you need, Yamada? Soon after that we got Koe no Katachi which was a rushed addaptation, only got held together by Kigami's storyboarding and the soundtrack. Then the movie also gets upstaged by Your Name on every aspect.

I just don't get what's everybody's fascination with this hack.

The best female director in the industry is Moriwaki Makoto

Fuck you, Tamako Market is my favorite kyoani show and the movie is great as well.
Not a big fan of Yamada's work after that, though, she tries too hard to make normalfag friendly anime now.

Tomako Market is an awful even among the shithouse that is kyoani, get some taste

Don't forget that KnK was judged objectively worse than Boss Baby

Ishizuka also did Hanayamata, which is pretty poorly regarded for its shitty handling of drama. NGNL was also shit, but I'd put that down to the writing.

Kekkai Sensen wasn't popular at all here, including with me. Other than that and Kyousou Giga she's mostly done episodes of Precure.

Don't really know Yamamoto's work myself. Didn't care for Yuri on Ice.

Matsumoto looks like a tranny. Is she really a woman?

Your first post was alright but this post proves that you either know nothing about directing anime or you have such a big hate boner for Yamada that you can't give an objective review on her qualities as a director.

The only reason Sup Forums says that Yamada is the best female director is because the avarage anime fan only knows 2 females in the scene (Yamada, Okada). If you want to change that then spread the word on your other favourite directors in a way where you don't compare them with Yamada.

>Kekkai Sensen
>Kyousogiga
Polished turds. Decent visuals, but poor direction and writing overall.

>Sora yori
>NGNL
>Hanayamata
All absolute trash, and Sora Yori is one of the most overrated shows in recent memory.

>K-on!
>Tamako Love Story
Masterpieces.

Oh well, looks like you didn't change my mind at all.

Gaze upon perfection.

Says the faggot who's pushing a bunch of unsourced BS about mediocre directors with no substantive praise other than " both of these shows had unique sense of direction and animation in them."

Oh wow, so insightful. You should write a book.

How come Ishizuka, Yamamoto and Yamada look so attractive but Matsumoto looks like a fucking nerd?

Yamamoto is the best. Can't wait for Matsumoto's next project.

Yamamoto is a great storyboard artist, but Yuri on Ice, Michiko to Hatchin, and Fujiko Mine aren't very well directed overall. I think she would be better off as a visual director.

Koe no Katachi said hi.

He's right though. I was going to reply but I didn't want to reply to a bait thread.

Makoto Moriwaki for me. One of the best director, too bad she rarely got midnight slot time job.

If you think this is how a nerd looks like, you are pathetic. She looks like a man who likes dressing up as a woman, excessive make-up and hipster hair/glasses being part and parcel of that.

>too bad she rarely got midnight slot time job
Milky Homes and PriPara are better than midnight anime.

Don't use my girl Juju for shitposting, faggot.

>K-On better than Kyusougiga & Sora Yori
Not him, but your taste is complete shit.

>Not him
Sure, pal.

JUST BOW TO YOUR QUEEN ALREADY

>the contender for the best anime this season
Bwahahaha, it's generic trash. There are muich better shows airing, and I don't mean VE or FranXX.

>KyoAnidrone will praise any pile of garbage as long as it's made by his favorite studio
sasuga

Call me when those women on the top make something better than K-On, Tamako Love Story, or Koe no Katachi.

I hope she gets to do another Milky special before they die next year.
And other stuff now PriPara is ending.

I hate VE and every single one of the shows they've made in the last few years. Nice try.

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Shhhh.

No one cares because none of them made K-On!

The only thing that she made in the past 10 years was HanaIro

Trips confirmed. But any female director are better than Yamada, really.

Hack

I personally really like Sayo Yamamoto.

Even in Yuri on Ice, its issues are all down to writing - the direction itself, the way scenes had the perfect amount of tension, was very good.

Okay, i don't care.

Right, I'm sure you do.

You are merely pretending to be retarded right?

Koe no Katachi was already popular to begin with.
KyoAnus didn't do jack shit.

>I hate popular and critically acclaimed thing!
>pay attention to mediocre unpopular thing instead!
Pathetic, how butthurt are you that Sora Yori is melodramatic shit, and will flop?

Boss Baby says hi.

Never heard about that anime.

Fuck off, studio-war mouthbreather.

HanaIro is shit.
Her best works are Nagi no Asukara & Anthem of the Heart.

That ain't Sayokan.

Are you trying to shit on Sora Yori?

>gets BTFO
>starts posting smugs and weak bait
Every time.

She is also a huge skaterfag.

>I hear that quite often too, the belief that you shouldn’t bring the things you like into your work. I had actually forgotten all about this, but the reason it was important for me to turn my figure skating passion into an anime was that doing anything else would have been impossible. The process of creating anime has become a really tough operation for me as of late. It was like I was creating, yet at the same time I was beating myself to death over it. My hands moved slow, and I would force myself to stay awake just in order to finish a project on time. So I thought to myself that I needed to work on a topic that I would never grow tired of, something that would keep me awake all day. Otherwise, I don’t think I could have ever made another anime, all while thinking “Someday I’m going to make something I like” (laughs).

Madhouse already did that when they gave the show to Ishizuka Atsuko. She's a complete hack.

Get your eyes checked.

Call me when your woman directed something better than Yuri on Ice. Solo, this time.

>KyoAnus didn't do jack shit.
They made a movie adaptation of it.

Sayo Yamamoto is fucking terrible. Overrated as hell because she's panders to normalfags.

Yamada is good. Tamako Market was awful but her recent movies were high quality works.

Ishizuka Atsuko is mediocre.

Rie Matsumoto is the best here. Really promising director.

>Call me when your woman directed something better than Yuri on Ice
Oh wow, that was easy.

>Soon after that we got Koe no Katachi which was a rushed addaptation
I didn't watch it yet (and probably never will), but you can do only that much when cramming 7 volumes into 2 hours (length of 5-6 average episodes). And it's not like studio/director had any say in what Kadokawa wanted and what they paid for.

I was "yamada hater" because she was way overhyped by Sup Forums after K-On! and despite Tamako Market. I attributed most of good things in Hibike to Ishihara and episode directors too, insistently refusing to admit Yamada's talent.

That is, until Silent Voice. At that point pretending to hate her became just lying to myself and acting stupid. She is a genuine talent that not just mechanically produces anime and projects the basic vision she has - but she actually is very meticulous and clear of what she wants to do, everything of her touch having meaning and purpose, her truly approaching making anime as very responsible artist that see it as higher art form than most anime watchers that watch her shows even do.

You can not like her approach and things she does, but not respecting her is simply being foolish. She is a person that puts deepest though in anime production and every aspect of it - her work is not outcome of random combination of factors, but though, planning and artistic search.

I can think for myself watching Ikuhara or Shinbo, Yuasa or some other directors shows that at time they just slap things since they feel like it randomly and the result is just outcome of influence of their style. Not so with Yamada - knowing how she works, she gained deepest respect from me: i wish there were more directors that actually though each time what exactly they want to show, what exactly they want viewer to feel, conceptualize everything about the story and visuals they create: but it is too much for most, for whom anime is still just a flashy abstract cartoon media. Yamada might be not the best director with natural shining talent, but is the one who takes her job most seriously - every aspect, every second of anime of hers you watch: is no coincidence, but her intent and vision - not just plainly displayed, but carefully presented too.

R8

Shaft really know how to sell their show

>she's panders to normalfags
Proof or get the fuck out.

What? Koe no Katachi wasn't Kadokawa.

>Rie Matsumoto is the best here
What? No. Kyousogiga was a complete mess, and Kekkai Sensen is dogshit outside the animation.
I agree with you other than that, though.

They're all good directors. You're barking at the wrong tree, retard.

Those shows were great despite a terrible script, which means the director did a pretty good job.

Well, Kodansha. Same shit - big publisher pay and order what they want.

>Kyousogiga was a complete mess, and Kekkai Sensen is dogshit outside the animation
Retard.

She did plenty of good shows in recent years, and now she graduated from scriptwriter to actual director - the new movie is both written AND directed by her and it looks great so far.

>Ishizuka Atsuko is a good director
Umm, no. She's a hack.

That's not even her in that picture, that's the woman that did the opening theme for Kyousogiga. This is Matsumoto.

She did the series composition for Kyousogiga, though. So it's still her fault.
Good defense, buddy. I'm sure Matsumoto will kiss your lips if you ever see her.

Kodansha was at the very bottom of the committee.

Can't wait to meet her, then.

>publishing corporation which own all rights was at the bottom
>this means that KyoAni/director were more important and did what they wanted, not what they were told and pad to do

Yeah, I reached the same conclusions a year or two ago. Antarctica was going to be the test to see if I had correctly picked out Ishizuka as an underrated director, and it has not let me down.

>now she graduated from scriptwriter to actual director
Except she's not actually directing SayoAsa.

>it has not let me down
You must have had pretty low expectations. There hasn't been a decent scene since episode 2, and her penchant for melodrama is ever-apparent.

You should read up on melodrama; you don't actually know what it means

melodrama - a sensational dramatic piece with exaggerated characters and exciting events intended to appeal to the emotions.

Yup, sounds like Sora Yori.

Sora Yori is by definition melodrama, stop projecting your stupidity on others.

>a sensational dramatic piece with exaggerated characters
Sounds pretty much like VEG & Hibikek.

>muh committee

You learn well from your master ultimate betamax. Can you show me your ball sucking skills from which he also taught you?

That's VEG though

Yeah, those shows suck too. Not really a great defense of Sora Yori, is it?

That's a very simplified definition. You'll note that the extent of exaggeration is not properly given, nor are the mechanics of how that's done. Melodrama requires that characterization be sacrificed for drama, which does not happen in Yorimoi
I'm not joking, you guys don't know nearly as much about this topic as you think. That's not an insult, I just think you should read up on it before making baseless accusations.

Are you me?

>this other completely unrelated show also fits that definition!
Yeah, Days of Our Lives is a melodrama too. What does that have to do with Sora Yori?

She is. Everything regarding how the movie is directed is her work. Shinohara is there to oversee the production, being actual experienced PA Work stuff - not for creative direction.

I suspect there are a few of us who've been impressed by the trio's very stylish animation, even if the scripts, like ngnl, didn't live up to it.

Sounds like you haven't even watched Hibike.

>this desperate to discuss female directors
Kyoani fanboys sure are retarded and insecure.

Days of Our Lives is a very good example of a melodrama, and you can see how different it is from Yorimoi. The characters in DoOL are defined entirely by their situation, the plot decides how they'll react to everything because it needs conflict to maintain drama. No one ever actually grows, because they have to remain vehicles for emotional conflict. Yorimoi is very much about developing characters and nurturing their emotional growth into maturity, which is distinctly not Melodrama

Broken characters and characters that suppress emotions are not sensational nor exaggerated.
The main issue with hibike was the Mizore arc.

>STILL responding to this retarded bait
dude this guy has been copy-pasting this exact comment on every thread that remotely mentions Sora Yori for the past month
stop feeding him

>you guys don't know nearly as much about this topic as you think
I literally have an English degree.
>Melodrama requires that characterization be sacrificed for drama
Yeah, sounds like Sora Yori. What characterization has there been? I've seen the girls get introduced, give their cliche sob stories, and then proceed to bicker with each other over meaningless shit, and run up against minor roadblocks that are immediately overcome by random plot devices. That's the show you're watching.

What? Can you find a single example in the archive where I've posted that before?

Wait Kyoani's doing an Evangelion reboot?

Read the OP. He's stating Yamada is overrated.

You seem to have directors and writers confused, user. This doesn't make you sound very smart.

All this worthless wall of text could be summed to
>hurrdurrr dis is gud show for teh normalfagz like me and dis is srtupid moeshit hurrrdurrr
Nice bait by the way.

>I literally have an English degree.
lmfaoooooo

>very stylish animation
What the fuck? None of Atsuko's shows have stylish animation. It's all very plain and uninspired. The only interesting thing about her work is Harue Oono's color designs. That's who's actually underrated. If you're impressed with these shows, look into her. The direction is actually not very impressive at all.