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yuck, go be a freak somewhere else.
Battle Royal Highschool
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Pupa
a classic
>spend all that time animating that
>shit it up with flashing light making it hard to tell any detail
Why does old anime do this so much? How is that not hell on the eyes? I understand they want to make it a bit harder to see and get a good lock on to enhance the horror, but all it really does is make me look away because flashing my screen (with bright blue light, no less) like that when I'm probably sitting in a dark room around midnight ain't nice.
Try watching old anime on an amoled screen. They really handle flashing lights more naturally.
Personally I don't have any issue picking out the detail with the flashing lights, and I like abrasive light work like that - I just find it very aesthetically pleasing. I think staring at that gif for more than 10 seconds at a time is a bit harsh, but in practice it is just a few seconds of flashing lights to punctuate a quick scene.
How the hell could an old show make an impressive animation like this?
Don't look so surprised, Im your fucking backup
is this allowed on a blueboard?
Is it supposed to go backwards? Is she getting deader or better? The fuck is happening?
back to reddi.t kid
she's being reformed. getting unkilled.
Well good for her.
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looks like more work than its worth
Does this count?
well fucking duh, gore is as american as apple pie but got forbid you post a nipple.
Have you ever watched old anime?
It's very common among ovas and films of the period, and even some TV anime could be quite impressive. Basically, modern animation( generally) has superior fluidity, but 80s and 90s animation(generally) is stronger in its use of cinematic perspective and meticulous detail. A lot of this boils down to the kind of art styles used and the general content of the shows. Simpler art styles(which are more popular now) allow for more fluidity in animation, and more modern anime is interested in fluid character acting, because they are more character interaction focused works anyways( Think of Kyoani shows). Many 80s and 90s works were really focusing on crazy scenes of cities getting destroyed, missiles and mecha flying all over the place in empty space, or hyper violent battle scenes. So those kinds of animations that really benefit from being detail oriented and ultra dynamic when it came to utilizing the third dimension got more focus.
Though Akira (1988) probably has the most consistent use of both approaches in the history of medium - but Japan has never, and may never again, bleed money like they were during that period, and given that it was not a financial success I doubt anyone who is pumping money into anime would gamble on the idea that making something like Akira again would be a worthwhile endeavor.
Seems more artsy than schlocky, but it looks cool so why not?
Any webm for melting Guyver from 1988 OVA ?
The producers back then cared about quality and anime, since 2000+ it was taken over by money grubbers that don’t even watch anime and want cheap stuff with slave wage pay.
I know, right.
Sup Forums only like moe colorful things.
But OP did post a nipple.
Sup Forums is not a sfw website
Got the gangbang scene?
>neo Sup Forums
I love how anime fans will refer to extremely well executed manga/anime like Wicked City, Mad Bull 34, Apocalypse Zero or Violence Jack (last 3 are better in manga form) as "schlock" and "objectively bad, but fun" no matter how well made they are, just because they're gory and sexual. Then jump through hoops to explain the deeper meanings and artistic merits of Kodomo no Jikan and Kill la Kill.
OP isn't actually porn. A mod specifically said back when A Woman Called Fujiko Mine was airing that nipples aren't banned by default.
This was a "positive" scene, actually. The guy was saving her girlfriend by rebuilding her body.
There are so many things that are proudly low brow, brainless and id-driven yet have far more impressive craft that went into them than most of the stuff considered "true art".
sorry for the watermark on the Jack pic I just googled "violence jack" because I'm too lazy to download a chapter
Sup Forums is notorious for being plebian af.
Genocyber.
Biohunter was always at my local Blockbuster
All that said though I wasn't big on Battle Royal High School outside of the animation money shot scenes, it felt kind of clusterfucky. But maybe I'm wrong and should rewatch it, I dunno, it's been a long time.
Nah Sup Forums and Sup Forums are much, much better about this shit. I streamed Apocalypse Zero and storytimed the manga constantly back in 2010 and people liked it, but on other communities it's impossible to get anyone to think differently about meme "OBJECTIVELY TERRIBLE ANIME".
But on other places it's impossible to move past the meme opinions. People are so condescending they seriously try to convince themselves Mad Bull 34 isn't intentionally funny and silly, but that Kazuo Koike truly believes America is like that and was trying to write a straight faced crime drama. It's either smug dehumanization of THEM DUMB JAPS WHO DON'T GET US 'MURRICANS, turbo-autism or both at the same time.
fellas, it's time to prep the bull
(I'm gonna storytime a good arc to get you to like mad bull/wacky action-comedy koike manga)
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OP here, personally I don't use "schlock" as a derivative term, but more as a simple description to signify the kind of content ( hyper visceral gore, sex and the like). Personally I think lots of schlock has more artistic and intellectual value than plenty of shows that are considered to be"deep" and "artistic" because they focus on themes that most people view as acceptable.
oh good i love me some poc representation
It's definitely not inherently bad at all, I just see people use it condescendingly very often.
People act like Lone Wolf and Cub and Lady Snowblood being good is a "fluke" and the later stuff he did like Crying Freeman, Mad Bull 34, Wounded Man etc is him trying to replicate its quality but it just comes out unintentionally funny. Which is ridiculous, they're obviously intentionally funny sex/violence-filled action-comedies and it's exactly the kind of ridiculous low brow fun I'd expect the creator of a classic Lone Wolf and Cub and Lady Snowblood to make when getting silly. It's dumb but also extremely creative and well executed.
And he squeezes the best out of the artists he works with, encouraging them to do visual storytelling through funny faces, poses and angles instead of writing a lot of redundant words. Like Nagai in Hanappe Bazooka.
Oh yeah of his more serious works Color of Rage is good too. Gets hated on because it's not a 100% progressive portrayal of black people by modern American standards despite being done by a middle aged Japanese man in the 70, when even socially progressive authors like Ishinomori were still making blacks look like dog people.
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I've heard an argument very similar to that as to why it is impossible to have a Berserk adaptation that isn't shit. The manga is a masterpiece of detail, not fluidity.
The "wackiness" attempts are cringey but otherwise this video is fantastic: youtube.com
Thankfully he doesn't do the le wacky stuff in the other videos.
His other videos are good too like the Moomins one and the Joe & Ippo one
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im fapin to this thread, just so you know
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It is art you idiot.
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People didn't think Mad Bull 34 was a satire? The guy blows massive holes in people and dresses up like a lady to catch assassins/rapists.
Fun fact the OP scene is done by kickass animator Toshiaki Hontani sakugabooru.com
He also did a bunch of work for the first Grandia game and was so proud of it he still has a website up documenting it
Well I'd say it STARTS as satire and gets more earnest despite remaining silly. Koike makes Sleepy & co legitimately likable and charming in their own demented way, while the other cops are actually far, far worse.
It's kinda hard to keep a series going for SO long without some earnestness. "Lol american cops are violent and crazy!" gets a bit older after a while and after one point it's more about them having wacky adventures. Less of a satire and more of a very affectionate parody of western culture as a whole almost like an 80s Panty & Stocking.
But if you want to see the most autistic review that influenced the rest of the crap you read online even today about this series, check out this utterly deranged meltdown from 2008 AnimeNewsNetwork: archive.is
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Well the characters have to be likable, they can't just remain caricatures. Sleepy was pretty complex even in the beginning, being this big violent lug with a heart of gold.
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Yamaguchi is great. It's also funny how obvious it is that he has a gay bara fetish yet no one in the west brings it up.
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Bara guro specifically, I meant.
if you can't flex out bullets you are a beta virgin
I hate non-legacy captcha so much
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You're picking up the detail whether you realize it or not.
meanwhile I love the art in this chapter
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>Apocalypse Zero
>Violence Jack
>not shlock
Have you even read them? They're shlock of the highest degree. Just because you think whatever that other junk is also shlock doesn't make them not shlock.
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I don't think something really, really well made deserves the label. There's a big difference between low brow shit that shows amazing craft and something like, say, The Astro-Zombies.
Also if Jack is "schlock" then so is Devilman and that's a terrible opinion.
So much of what is deemed "real art" is insincere garbage and clearly driven by a desire to pander to elites moreso than earnest passion. Making an extremely well-drawn, expressive and fun manga purely for the sake of being funny and badass is something that comes straight from the soul.
And that mix of technical know-how and sincerity regard is far more artful to me.
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ignore the word "regard" there
this is the first time i've ever seen this manga and the first thing i thought was the cop looked like something straight out of a Tom of Finland Ad
Think of it this way: if Takashi Murakami worked with Koike and made an exhibition of panels from Crying Freeman and Mad Bull 34, suddenly it would cease being "schlock" and suddenly it would become "art"; just like the loli otaku stuff he's sold to millionaires who would never touch an anime or manga.
"Good art" is what you find earnestly impressive and impacting. If you earnestly enjoy something, I wouldn't call it schlock.
I suppose gore died down as people didn't really care for it and you had to actually put some effort into impressing the viewer.
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The focus of anime/manga otaku just changed. The "edgy" stuff lasted for quite a while, starting in at least the 60s during the boom of student protests.
Recently watched Genocyber.
was pretty good, sad that it got canceled
music is pretty rad also
And/or riots.
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I should watch it, it looks like a huge visual improvement for the director compared to the first Geist OVA.
fairy dreaming is fucking sick.
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