Blame!

Why do people like it so much?

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It's great.

I lose interest every time.

because its good

architecture(large structures) and dystopian future science porn

Because "show don't tell" is the epitome of story telling.

when was the last time you read something where the author actually made shit, as opposed to just aping the predecessors of his genre plus some gimmicks?

This, seriously the only things that have come close to Blame is stuff like Alita or Texhnolyze, and they're still very very different. It just gives a certain aesthetic and story that hadn't been done before and hasn't been repeated outside of Nihei's other work and the NaissainceE game

Is there something like Blame! But before the fisherman arc? Basically a surreal art trip

Made in Abyss
>inb4 "muh Lovecraft"

That has never happened.

I guess aping cyberpunk and Giger counts as "actually making something" now.

dorohedoro felt pretty unique

>a certain aesthetic and story that hadn't been done before and hasn't been repeated outside of Nihei's other work and the NaissainceE game
>something like Blame! But before the fisherman arc? Basically a surreal art trip
Check out ECHO, it's short and story-focused but nails the aesthetic and I'm certain the developers drew inspiration from Nihei:
youtu.be/kMtMCD4z3z4

Because the art is great, because it isn't moe shit, because it is actually a refreshing and creative setting

Dorohedoro is fucking great!
It's still really rare to get something fresh, even more rare to take something that is bleak and occasionally gross and messy and make it endearing.

It is an acquired taste. I personally like it for the artwork.

>aping cyberpunk
It took aesthetic cues from cyberpunk but the atomization and alienation of the working class isn't really a consideration in Blame!
If you were smart you'd have said "Childe Roland," and you'd have been right.

Dorohedoro is ok, but I never liked a lot of the changes that happened around the times when Kaiman became self-aware of his past. The change of pacing and plot felt way too rushed for my tastes.

It look pretty I like
It don't write things I make good story my head only

Has a lot of rereadability and a lot of information hidden between the lines - though I can see how this can be frustrating for some. I myself am still trying to make more sense of Blame!

So what the hell is the huge monster-looking thing in the left-most panel there?

Is it ever explained?

To be fair, Blame also got worse as it went along.


Anyways, Blame is amazing just for the backgrounds alone, everything else is an added bonus.

Fuck I keep forgetting to finish it.
I'm right here

I wasted money on the garbage master editions

Because it has great setting, athmosphere and it's a nice combination of elements from sci-fi & cyberpunk genres. It'a world and a story that is much bigger & longer than you see in the actual story, most of the things aren't shown; makes it all the more interesting.

I personally don't like anime/manga much at all, but Blame feels different. The characters and the way they are potrayed seem pretty realistic and Nihei is able to show their emotions etc. very subtle way, he doesn't need to resolve to over-the-top gimmicks.

Also, it doesn't drag on, has a solid ending, doesn't have endless boring fighting scenes and instead epic action that is visually awesome. And the scenery and visual designing overall, just gorgeous.

yes, you did

because it's great, i find new details in it every time i reread it

Damn, I was considering buying them on amazonjp. What is so bad about them?

I personally found them worth the price. They are huge and the paper&print quality is nice. The biggest issue is that many frames are almost redone and don't look the same as in older prints&scanlations. On the other hand you now get to see many details that you couldn't before. I like the new covers but wish that the original coverd would have been included as coloured pages.

>Blame! got worse as it went along
What? The pacing stretched out but that's just a factor of the insane timescale in the City. The stuff with the Silicon creature trying to get into the net, detective sanakan, and Killy fighting with safeguards who are clones of him was all great. Pcell and Domochevsky's romance subtext was incredible.

Download the "Fixed Blacks" cbr files. You'll read all the volumes in one sitting. The art is incredible in high-res.

So they can pretend that they are smart for liking this trash

Ah that's a shame. Guess I will still go for it.

Just download the "Fixed Blacks" scanlated volumes of Nyaa. They fixed all the bullshitted up art like the forcefield on Killy's hand against the high level safeguard.

Alright thanks for the tips, I am downloading it now.

It should be illegal to have opinions this bad.

Nothing, they're great. It's like re-reading them but in HD. Full color printed pages, larger text, arguably better translations, larger panel sizes so you can actually make out what's going on.

The extra h-doujins at the end are also great. I found volume 3 to have the sexiest h scenes.

>my high level safeguard teacher can't be this cute!

Why it is so good, I think I'd like to try it a second time.

>that gameplay
Looks like the unholy offspring of Ergo Proxy and Blame!

>that shelf fitment

>They fixed all the bullshitted up art like the forcefield on Killy's hand against the high level safeguard.
Who is "they"? Is it an official repair, or a manual redraw, or an upscaling, or what?

The grander scope of the story didn't work as well as the one of encounters of the earlier chapters. It also was detrimental to the art, as more had to go into the characters rather than the backgrounds. Blame is great all the way through, but nothing is better than the first 20 chapters or so.

Scanlaters did a manual redrawing so that it would have the original artwork in the larger resolution that came from scanning the bigger pages. It's never big changes, just little stuff like the force fields.

Dunno but that box-thing was removed in Master editions also. seems like it wasn't supposed to be there in the beginning.

I still wish the ending would have been explained better, even though I liked it. I guess I'd have to ask from Nihei himself.

>seems like it wasn't supposed to be there in the beginning
It was. We've discussed this. The final drafts had been lost.

what box thing? I'm new to Blame

>That shelving

>no one notices the glob of spunk in the to right corner

There's a scene where Killy gets trapped in a box thing and can't move or shoot his way out of about to get smacked by a big nasty safeguard. It's mysteriously gone in the master version making the panel nonsensical without the context of seeing the original page.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOX

>actually made shit, as opposed to just aping the predecessors of his genre plus some gimmicks
>He doesn't know

TUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBBBBBBEEEEEEEEESSSS

left looks better anyway

Left is old. Right is remaster.

Left is the old one.

yeah, so this fan re-do on nyaa has the left one back in, right?

this.. is the power of master edition?

Is the fixed blacks the best version? The box is missing but it looks gread othervise.

I tried fixing it myself in photoshop but I accidentally opened a portal to the Nihei dimension

HELP

it's as good as it's gonna get

What do you guys think of Nihei’s other manga? I read Biomega recently and I’ve gotta say, those first 4 volumes were fucking sublime. Absolutely amazing artwork and pacing, and the plot just keeps upping the stakes every chapter without losing steam, and the bizarre payoff and reveal of what it was building to is great. Shame the last two volumes were pretty shit, they’re basically just scribbled storyboards for what could easily have been and should have been another 4 volumes minimum. I dunno if it was health or age or what, but it was in those last two volumes that his art switched to the less detailed style we’ve had since. It at least looks fine in Knights if Sidonia since the art style was constructed specifically to look good at that level of detail but it’s jarring as fuck in Biomega. I still really enjoyed it though, would definitely recommend the first 4 volumes to literally any fan of manga.

It was at that point that his income style become predicated upon weekly/monthly syndication. It's like music artists who have years and years to make their first couple works but then have to meet restricted deadlines after. Same with Aposimz.

Ah that’s fair enough. I would have thought that he’d hit that point in Blame! honestly, it’s impressive he kept up that level of quality for so long.

>would definitely recommend the first 4 volumes to literally any fan of manga
Maybe we can start tricking people into thinking that Biomega only has ~28 chapters, and that it has an Abara-like end. Certainly would save some people a fair amount of pain.

I really need to reread Biomega in HD before I judge his newer style. So far my opinion was that Nihei died mid Biomega, his white art simply doesn't have the same impact.

The first half is still great standalone, ending on the cord reveal, but it’s depressing we never got what the second half was meant to be. Action horror set over literal millions of years is ridiculously tough to pull off without losing steam but he set it up so fucking well, and it amounted to nothing in the end given the state of everything after the DRF kidnaped Zouichi’s ayylmao waifu.

I own the physical volumes of Biomega and I can tell you that the white art is just okay. It’s not bad by any means but nowhere near as good as his older style. It’s got it’s own cool aesthetic to it, but it doesn’t really match the themes and content of his stories. Blame! and Biomega are still interesting outside of their art, but they wouldn’t be half as good as they are without it. It just feels like that aspect is missing with his newer stuff.

Oh fuck, i sold my volumes for the masters. Why the fuck didnt they just try and fixup a scan frkm the old one or something? Trash

uncultured maggot

There's definitely some quality loss in the "fixed blacks" thing. But, I don't know if it's significant enough for most people to notice/care about.

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I rate Biomega higher than Blame!. It packs more ideas and concepts than Blame! did.

You can see the character's becoming cuter towards the ending of Biomega. And immediately after that comes Knights of Sidonia, which was Nihei's attempt to get his work animated. Sidonia became too "anime" for me to continue.

Hopefully Apozim is good.

>dorohedoro
How have I never heard of this before? Lovin I so far.

>Hopefully Apozim is good
My condolences in this soon-to-be time of hardship for you

Because it's essentially Lovecraft x Texhnolyze x 40k, and I love every bit of it

Netflix Cibo > Manga Cibo

cibo is always cute

Concerning eyecandy, I feel that manga treats female readers a whole lot better than male ones.

I've noticed that people who like Blame! tend to like Dorohedoro. Not really sure why, honestly, they are pretty different.

Dorohedoro's mangaka was one of Nihei's assisstants, so you can clearly see some of his influence in it

I've heard that before, but I can only find conflicting information on its validity.

Star-gazing silicon creature did nothing wrong. Killy is an asshole.

yeah that was a dick move. Also one of the most aesthetic parts, the sheer size of that room

yes, sir

Looks surprisingly neat

>cyberpunk
You should kill yourself just so your shit opinions don't spread

>sparing silicons

>proceeds to save silicon as a species in that one chapter

Was Biomega supposed to make sense at any point in the story?

It displays a story with little to no conversation or text

What is it about a talking, sniping bear that does not make sense?

For all we know that astronomer could have been the mastermind behind it all, he couldn't risk it

>I still wish the ending would have been explained better, even though I liked it. I guess I'd have to ask from Nihei himself.
What was there left to explain? Killy found the bet terminal genes and restored access to the net sphere. The Safeguard was never recovered, as seen in the sequel chapters, but humanity regained control of the builders and the city at large.

Humans had already won by that point. He was just destroying Safeguard towers, and letting a Silicon creature peacefully leave the city wasn't against his agenda.

Biomega is a close second behind BLAME for me. The first half and seconds half are clearly different beasts which is fine, but I do agree the second half was far too rushed. It has some really interesting (albeit confusing) ideas and plot threads. The action scenes and monster designs were also some of his best.

Abara was good but I didn't really understand it. I'll have to try again someday.

any of you read Abara? You can see him working out a lot of the ideas for later things like Biomega and Sidonia in it. Really good imo!

>Holy shit I love science
>Can't wait to keep studying the same spot for millenia
>Wait who's that douchebag
>Fuck it's a safeguard
>Play it cool, man
>"Sure is big huh?"
>Wait he's listening to me?
>Aww shieeeet, textdump.megastructure
>Finally someone who likes facts
>Doesnt speak a lot though, oh well, thats fine
>"Wait fuck man, don't go to that tower, you're gonna get jackup up"
>Heh, can't stop him
>What a nice safeguard, really changed my mind abou-
>BLAM!
>...

Meanwhile, in Killy's mind
>CIBO'S LEGS CIBO'S LEGS CIBO'S LEGS CIBO'S LEGS CIBO'S LEGS CIBO'S LEGS CIBO'S LEGS CIBO'S LEGS CIBO'S LEGS CIBO'S LEGS CIBO'S LEGS CIBO'S LEGS CIBO'S LEGS CIBO'S LEGS CIBO'S LEGS

>cibos thighs

What part didn't make sense? Was it when the brain waves from the matriarch reshaping the planet into what the bear dreamed of, who actually has the brain of an immortal clone that was used to make a billionaire scientist immortal in order to see his immortal wife on Mars after the plague wiped out a colony and then spread to Earth in order to start the catalyst for the Earth to be reshaped by brain waves?

Agreed, but I'd break it down a bit further:
Netflix Cibo > alternate-universe Cibo > backup-body (normal) Cibo > head scientist Cibo > moe-moe gakuen Cibo > level 9 Cibo > carcass Cibo > loli Safeguard Cibo