Is it possible to still like an anime if you hate the creator?
Is it possible to still like an anime if you hate the creator?
John Gonzalez
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Leo Diaz
Watsushi didn't make the anime
Nolan Cook
Hating /ourguy/
Parker Cruz
Yes, but there's no reason to hate Watsushi. He purchased tasteful nude photography in a time when it was perfectly legal to do so, and when times changed he actively tried to dispose of it. This media retoric of him being an evil villain is a scam that preys on the sensibilities of misinformed bystanders.
Tyler Perry
>tasteful nude photography
no it was never legal
Mason Davis
I mean
atleast he didn't show any signs in the series so you'll probably be able to watch it and just ignore the fact that
y'know
fiddled his diddle to the liddles
Alexander Martin
God bless our Noble Hero Watsuki.
Brayden Sanders
Yes.
Nathan Roberts
This.
Robert Reyes
Yes.
Ian Martin
The first OVA was so fucking good holy shit
Joseph Scott
Have you seen the nude photography yourself to judge how tasteful it is?
Carter Foster
Given how no report ever mentions it being sexual in nature, just "containing undressed girls under 18 years", that it was legal to own at one point, and that he went to a lawyer asking him how to dispose of it, I am lead to believe that it really wasn't that awful.
Sebastian Reed
Like the work. Won't support it or him.
Cameron Campbell
Of course.
Plenty of people still love One Piece despite Oda's creepy and enduring obsession with trans-people.
PS: What did Watsuki do?
Lincoln Jackson
kenshin spent a lot of time hanging out with little girls inbetween fights
Isaiah Collins
Those were anime only characters though.
The manga doesn't have them in it.
Connor Peterson
If you can't separate the art from the artist, you're either a retard or a fanatic.
Anthony Jackson
wow, guess that makes me a pleb. when the news first broke out those scenes were the first thing i thought of so it's funny that they weren't actually his idea.
Gabriel Russell
Apparently he had illicit photos of underaged girls. According to he had them and then the law was changed and made them illegal.
Luke Lewis
Separating the art from the artist is the plebbiest shit.
David Sanders
Child porn possession was legal even in America until 1990. People have just been brainwashed into thinking these laws have always existed and must always exist to protect pure innocent (invariably girl) children from evil perverted (invariably male) pedophiles.
Henry Moore
It's important to have some knowledge of the artist to add context and find possible meaning to the art, but if finding out something bad about the artist, completely unrelated to the art that you once enjoyed, changes your opinion to a significant degree, please stick to whatever ideological ecochamber you came from.
Jace Price
youtube.com
The most kino fight.
Asher Perry
It really wasn't.
Jeremiah Jenkins
This is just a witch hunt. Like many before him, Watsushi is being made into a example to not be followed; to make people scared of even looking at young girls with fear of them being underage, to control the minds and behavior of people without they even noticing. The fact that his case is unfair only reinforces this objective.
Jordan Jenkins
of course, you can even hate an anime by four favourite creator
Andrew Murphy
Yes it's called separating art from the artist. This is how jews are able to enjoy Wagner
Levi Reyes
Why do we live in a time period where people are imprisoned because they jerk off to things other people don't like?
Adrian Thompson
Because the state, and globalist organizations, want to legislate the private thoughts and behaviors of people. Today's ''democracy'' is at a one step distance from totalitarianism.
Connor Morris
Came in to say this. It's funny how this generation can't even do something as simple as that.
Dylan Gomez
Why do you hate him? There's literally nothing wrong with liking little girls.
Daniel Davis
But I like Wagner too.
Dominic Bennett
It wasn't nude photography, let alone tasteful.
He had videos of underage girls getting fucked in the ass.
Jordan Sullivan
>le witch hunt
I can't tell if it's just shitposters getting worse at shitposting or there are actual pedophiles who are pathetic enough to infest Sup Forums
Eli Scott
>why can't I jerk off to kids?
anime really does rot the brain huh?
Brody Ross
>the absolute state of Sup Forums
no wonder this board is so shit
Ayden Morgan
>Junior idol materials stand on legally ambiguous ground in Japan
>en.wikipedia.org
So, it was actual child porn.
Chase Roberts
>He lets the state dictate to what he should and shouldn't masturbate to
You should also try to make your samefag less obvious.
Jordan Sullivan
shit was so cash
Henry Butler
sure
>FAGGOT
Anthony Richardson
>there are actual pedophiles who are pathetic enough to infest Sup Forums
Oh nostalgia...
Andrew Bennett
Get out of your mother's basement, Geoff
Noah Fisher
>not hating pedos unconditionally
Sebastian Miller
Rorouni Kenshin is garbage anyway. This was great when I was a kid but after a re-watch due to the controversy I have no idea how anyone can tolerate half the childish bullshit in this show. It's like I'm watching one of those western anime parodies making fun of all its cliches.
Chase Murphy
>childish bullshit
Anime made for kids and teenagers has some things that look childish in the eyes of a ''adult''? Oh, the horror.
Nathan Diaz
>liberatarians trying to defend pedophilia
like clockwork
Mason Evans
*tips fedora*
go watch one of your mature animes then
Adrian Davis
Some of the battle shounen I've read recently are nowhere as bad about it, though.
I mean, for god sakes, villains licking their blades?
Josiah Myers
pedos will say anything no matter how stupid, whew
Michael Brooks
Junior idols exist, and idol groups are also made up of young girls.
Robert Cook
>Brainlets applying labels and buzzwords to posts in a attempt to dismiss them without trying to actually reply to their individual content
Like clockwork
Aaron Jones
I didn't realize idol was pornography now.
Jaxon Wilson
Uh?
What did he do?
Samuel Price
Because it's masked and pretending to be something other than masturbatory material.
Ryder Diaz
I never understood the reverse blades meme. Why doesn't he just not carry any sword if he doesn't want to kill people? or just a stick?
Kevin Hughes
So? they aren't having sex or doing any nudity just like the american kids pageants.
Mason Powell
Because sticks aren't as cool as swords are user
Logan Murphy
Those pageants are sick and should be illegal, I can't believe parents would willingly participate in the sexual objectification of their children!
Charles Cox
>Because the state, and globalist organizations, want to legislate the private thoughts and behaviors of people. Today's ''democracy'' is at a one step distance from totalitarianism.
sure thing buddy, you just happen to blame the (((state))) for all your problems, and also defend child pornography, i'm TOTALLY sure these two things have nothing to do with each other whatsoever
Gabriel James
He doesn't want to kill. That doesn't mean he doesn't want to at least be able to incapacitate with his skills. A stick would break too easily.
Mason Hill
I'd say Ruroni Kenshin is better than 99% of battle shonens for at least having having some educational value. If we were to talk about silly stuff, they happen in every shounen one way or another.
Brody Campbell
>He had videos of underage girls getting fucked in the ass
Proof? at worst he only had swimsuit workouts.
Nathaniel Carter
How long have you being here, friend? You don't seem to understand this place.
Colton Scott
Again, you are not replying to me or to what I said, but to a constructed image that you created in your mind, in other words, you are trying to beat a strawman without even realizing.
Let's look at the retardation you spewed:
>you just happen to blame the (((state))) for all your problems
Nowhere did I said anything which would even give such a idea. I said the state nowadays tries to legislate our thoughts and private behavior, which is not a opinion but a fact, and as that time goes on, democracy turns more and more into totalitarianism due to more state control and centralization of power, which again, is a fact.
>defend child pornography
Another misrepresentation of my points. I wonder if you are a functional illiterate or just dishonest.
I did not defend child pornography, I expressed my opinion against sexual preference and behavior being legislated by the state, if you think the two things are obligatorily related you might be retard.
>i'm TOTALLY sure these two things have nothing to do with each other whatsoever
Do a favor to yourself: Stop going to Sup Forums and Sup Forums, and grab a book. Automatically labeling me as a libertarian because of those posts show how narrow you political and philosophical vision is.
Mason Jackson
>intellectual value
>hurrr I must not kill pippo
Anthony Foster
Nice straw man. I wasn't even referring to that part.
Ruroni Kenshin at least teaches some Japanese history to people.
Wyatt Mitchell
>hurr we wuz alone then we let gaijin boats into island
Ryan Gutierrez
>tasteful nude photography
wrong
>he actively tried to dispose of it
also wrong
Brandon Hill
ITT: pedophilia apologists
Eli Watson
Depends on how severe their actions were. If it's small-time stuff like a misdemeanor or an off-color remark, I'll live and let live. If it's a biggie like what Watsuki did, I usually stop and focus on a similar work with a different creator.
Mason Morris
Historical events /=/ interpretation of historical events.
Camden Jackson
Nice ad hominem.
Mason Green
>t. normalfag hypocrite
Lincoln Morris
why do you hate him?
did he rape him,w
Cameron Ward
>Kamatari
I wonder if she was my first trap
Colton Rodriguez
>what if the child consents tho
Jackson Butler
Learn what high school buzzwords mean before you start using them, kid. For an ad hominem to happen, an argument needs to take place. And that post directed at me made no argument, but a straw man and blatant misrepresentation of what I said.
Sebastian Sanchez
>the state nowadays tries to legislate our thoughts and private behavior, which is not a opinion but a fact, and as that time goes on, democracy turns more and more into totalitarianism due to more state control and centralization of power, which again, is a fact.
you keep spouting libertarian talking points and don't want me to label you a retarded libertarian?, the fact is that this is not about state control or freedom at all. this is neck beard on the internet trying to defend his right to exploit other people, child pornography has to be made by sexually exploiting young girls, but somehow your freedom to consume it is more important than the girls freedom to not be molested, and this is the thing that makes you a retarded libertarian, in fact you should be the one who reads, because you clearly aren't keen to the decades of that same logic being applied to bullshit like this
Gabriel Walker
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Joshua Johnson
>He purchased tasteful nude photography in a time when it was perfectly legal to do so
Someone post the site that proves Watsuki purchased hardcore child porn please.
Ian White
Elijah Anderson
Well as long as they enjoyed it
Jason Howard
Pic related. Now shut up. You've been BTFO in regards to the tasteful photography shit many moons ago.
Benjamin Brooks
Zachary Anderson
>#1 in the Japanese box office for 14 weeks, 13 weekends
>Earns 20 billion yen and counting to surpass Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets in Japan
>Reached 10 billion yen 9 days faster than Frozen
>Wins LA Film Critics Award
>Has become the no. 1 highest-grossing Japanese movie in China
>Has become the no. 1 movie in Thailand
>The film immediately topped Korea's box office opening on 555 screens all around the country which is a new record for the Japanese film.
>Also dominated China breaking the all-time records for the most advance tickets sold and the fastest film to reach 100 million yuan ($ 14 million or 1.7 billion yen), with the first 100 yuan earned in just the film's opening day.
>The film also dominated the charts of Hong Kong and Taiwan becoming the number 2 and top highest grossing Japanese film on the respective countries
>Inexplicably jumps 41% in the Japanese box office and climbs from 7th place to 3rd place in one week
>Still in the top 10 in the Japanese box office towards the beginning of 2017
>Now grossed US$355 million.
>Surpasses the box office gross of Spirited Away (US$289.1 million), making it the highest grossing anime film of all time.
>Is approved by Shinzo Abe and used by Cool Japan to spur tourism in Japan.
>Turned into a live-action movie by J.J. Abrams
So this is meme magic. Not bad.
Noah Ortiz
What do these say?
Xavier Reed
>"5th grader Yui" 43 mn
> Penetration: Yes, blowjob : yes
> Very popular !
>Loli movie "Fifth Grader Yui contents :
>The person shooting it is thought to have a daily physical relation with the girl. She has a very beautiful body. The contents are astounding, and her blowjob technique is even superior to adult women's one. They do the main thing multiple tims and she seems to have a lot of pleasure. It ends with a creampie.
Well it says she enjoys it so maybe it's fine then.
Ryder Ramirez
He bought the CP from "厳選DVDショップありす" the largest shop for CP in Japan that was smoked by the police back in May and has sold more than 250 million yen worth of CP.
Pic related is what the shop looks like. Several Videos are advertised as "Elementary Girl", "Penetration" and "Creampie" which seems rather worrying.
Elijah Hernandez
Sacrifices must be made for the sake of freedom.
Jeremiah Ortiz
>you keep spouting libertarian talking points and don't want me to label you a retarded libertarian?
So are you denying the fact that centralization of power and state control increased in the most countries within the last few decades? Or that state tries to legislate private behavior? I'd love to hear your argument countering that.
Truth is not related to ideological preferences.
>child pornography has to be made by sexually exploiting young girls
First off, you are assuming that child pornography always happens due to exploitation, which is wrong, since a underage girl can take nudes and post on the internet or record homemade videos of her having sex without needing a third part, and even if a third part is actually involved, that doesn't necessarily denotes exploitation or molestation, it may or may not be the case. But more importantly, and more in line with my initial point, is that the ones who should take care of the kid's education, behavior and sexual preference are the parents, the family, the community, or the person itself, not the state. Why? Because the family is a close relative which actually cares and understands their relative's individual needs and also individual limitations, not a neutral and gigantic organism that doesn't know or care about him, and only applies legislation through general rules and slogans.
Lastly, If a young girl is falling prey to actual molestation, exploitation or any of the terms you used, that's wrong not because a young girl is having sex, but because of possible blackmail, extortion, coercion and/or rape and so on.
Brayden Phillips
literally /ourguy/
Andrew Flores
>Cutting up baby penises because much Judaism is legal
>Teaching children bullshit religions when they’re too young to know any better is legal
>Giving children high sugar diets until they’re obese is legal
>Forcing a child to be a movie star to make you thousands of dollars while they develop serious psychological issues is legal
>But masturbating to a picture of a child? PRISON
>I totally care about the welfare of children and not just some archaic idea of sexual purity from 5000 years ago
Carter Parker
And yet in the movies Hiko beats Kenshin's ass with a stick.
Proving yet again that Hiko is the hero Shishio deserved.
Blake Sullivan
Why hasn't Japan hanged Watsuki yet? Pedo got off too lightly.
Andrew Perry
>Hate the creator
Why? You have no reason to hate him.
Josiah Price
t. delusional wannabe kiddy diddler
Nathan Price
>thread about liking creators with checkered pasts
>immediately derails into a debate about cheese pizza
Sasuga.
Julian Moore
This is some depraved shit. Have other people in the manga and anime industry even commented on this? Nothing comes up on Google.
Carter Peterson
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