Hunter x Hunter

Manipulation?

You know they got me trapped in this prison of seclusion
Happiness, getting outta here is a delusion
Even a smooth Prince one day must get caught
Shot up or shot down with the bullet that she bought
Nine millimeter kickin' thinking about what Benjamin gonna do to me

Bless Gon for freeing Pitou from her mortal shackles so that she could assume her true divine form. Freed from the slavery imposed by her life, she has become far more wonderful than morals can even conceive.

*mortals

Pitou reincarnated when?

Nobody would care about Pitou if he looked like Youpi.

Her reincarnated form will be as Gon's sex slave

Pitou was irredeemable.

mindblown

The queens' guards are directly allied with the queen in question and are used to spy on the lower queens and princes. As Rihan mentioned in the chapter, the 3rd Queen's guard had no loyalty whatsoever to the eighth Prince. A guard from Swinko-Swinko was even the one who killed Momoze.

Pitou's character arc made her the most human of the royal guards, though. Her initial animalistic traits slowly turned into compassion and genuine care for the human her king cared for. She was almost motherlike in the way she tried to defend Komugi when Gon showed up. Her design developed alongside her character, matching its growth

The last HA was a slapdash affair where most of the Princes sent some guards to become Hunters. They'll only be considered Hunters for the voyage, after that, they're done. I think that's what you're talking about. As to why, it's because as Hunters they have more mobility in traversing the top deck, specifically entering certain rooms.

her? she?

simply obeying orders, no emotions towards humans were involved
in fact that lying bitch got what she deserved for not telling truth

fuck off, Satan

Speaking of manipulation, could Blaise control Meruem if she got the kiss in?

Only if Meleoron and Zushi tagteam her.

People say this, but for my part, I disagree with one exception. When she defended Komugi, it was because of the King's orders; the child was precious to the King, so the child was precious to her. It's like when Knov said the King can wave his baton and change the guard completely. Since it was her mission to defend Komugi, I don't count that as character development. If the King decided the order her to kill Komugi right afterwards, she would do it, no problem.

But, she does gain some kind of compassion because she apologizes to Gon about Kaito even though it doesn't benefit her in any way. So I guess that, at least, is some development. But I would argue that Youpi is the only one to have character development, because he formed his own opinions based on his own experiences. Of course, the guards are functionally immune to character development since the King could just say do the reverse and they would, so it's kind of moot.

Yes, much like APR is impossible to destroy

One face smashing wasn't enough for this shit character.

There's obviously more than just the order, he didn't order Pitou to protect Komugi after the healing but she did it anyway.

Given that reincarnation is a thing in this setting, I think that her having a chance at a life free from the shackles of being a chimera ant (and especially as a royal guard) to attempt to grow the traits that began appearing in her right before her life was put to an end would be fascinating. But I doubt it'll happen

Can someone post the picture with gon-san about to smash pitou and he turns around to say something philosophical and edited in, to killlua?

Because Pitou wasn't an autistic robot and understood that the King meant actually protecting Komugi, and not letting randoms kill her.

king ordered previously to deal with any kind of circumstances that could lead to harm done to her (crow bs)

What the fuck are you talking about? Pitou got disintegrated by Gon

You think Pouf or Youpi would have done the same?

>the pitouhater is illiterate
Not surprising at all desu~

Youpi probably would, if under direct order of the King. Pouf, no, because he was betraying the King, even in his own words. Pitou didn't hate the King enjoying a human's company, and since he ordered Pitou to take care of her, she did. Pouf actively hated the effect Komugi had on the King.

Pitou wasn't as stupid and literal as you, I guess.

Pouf would have loopholed out of it as quickly as possible while still rationalizing than he fulfilled the order. Youpi would have just sat around protecting her until ordered otherwise.

disintegrated is a word, faggot

no I mean you were incapable of reading my post, because you obviously think it says something other than what it does. Why don't you give it a more thorough read, and then read your response, and think about why it's obvious you're a moron.

I'll try to explain everything as best as I can. Copypasting part of another post.
>are the family guards formal guards for the queens that are allowed to go spy on the other princes, or are they just guards for the entire family and they just-so-happen to align themselves with one of the queens?
A family guard is hired by a queen and assigned to her own prince. Affinity with and loyalty to the prince may vary, especially if the queen has multiple kids and plays favorites. An example of high loyalty but low affinity is Sale-Sale's guard captain. He works for Swinko-Swinko and has Sale-Sale's best interests at heart through her, but Sale-Sale is happy to get rid of him for a few hours.
A spy guard is part of the royal hierarchy system, assigned by a higher queen to the prince of a lower queen. Zero loyalty to the prince, spies at best and assassins at worst. They aren't even included on the princes' staff list.

A queen's spies and normal guards are not counted together, by the way.

>The second thing I don't understand is why twenty of prince 2-5's buddies became hunters. It's because a hunter's license allows them to break certain laws? I would think laws are pretty subjective on this fucking boat to begin with, so I don't really get it.
They became affiliate hunters because cooperating/being in contact with the HA grants more privileges and ensures better security for their prince. Just so you know, they are not true hunters. They have temporary licenses which will expire when the expedition is over.

>or why Marayam didn't inherit Momoze's lone guard.
He did. It was either Vergei or Barrigen. The total count doesn't include dead guards.

Still doesnt make sense. Reincarnation never happened if we exclude the Ant Queen shenanigans. So how in the fuck would Pitou reincarnate?

Already settled science. All Nen abilities use Nen. All Nen can be resisted. Conditions only make your Nen more powerful, not irresistible. Even the tiny vocal minority of retard(s) who say she could control him if he let her kiss him will backtrack on their own argument if you point out the fact that not all conditions are good enough.

he still lives inside those threads

>it would nothing because he is too strong
this isn't dbz

Die in a fire, you autistic shitposter.

I think most people are wrong in regards to Pitou's development. She became more aware of herself, if anything.

All conditions ARE good enough. That's how Kurapika was able to completely subdue a master enhancer like Uvo.

When will you hxhfags move on to a better series?

(You)

>pic unrelated

>people still respond the shitposter who says that things only he believes are "settled science"
Stop giving the dumbpowerlevelfag (you)s already

When a better series pops up

He's right, though. Bisky, Morel and Knov all agree that in a battle between nen users there is no certain outcome

>All conditions ARE good enough. That's how Kurapika was able to completely subdue a master enhancer like Uvo.

So, since in your mentally retarded fanfiction, Shalnark can control Meruem if he touches him with his stick, another Manipulator could mind control everyone (incl. Meruem) by winking at them (since that is his condition). You said "all conditions are equal" after all.

>He's right
You're not right. Why do you even bother doing this? Your retarded opinion isn't accepted anywhere on the Internet. Not on Sup Forums, not on Sup Forums, not on 2chan, not even on the place where you came from. Literally your own brothers think you're an idiot.

>winking at them
Correct, but knowing nen, simply winking at them wouldn't be enough. It would need to fulfill other conditions, like you wouldn't be able to use your eye for 24 hours afterwards, you'd have to explain the ability, etc.

>Correct, but knowing nen, simply winking at them wouldn't be enough.
Do you even read your posts before you submit them?

The series has established there are minimal requirements for conditions for mind control, but has not established any requirements for it to scale against stronger nen users. Those scalings are inherent in the difficulty required for the original condition once against a stronger, more aware opponent

Thats retarded though, shoot hit youpi and his effect still worked. Doing as said in the poll would be retardly difficult but baise's ability if the conditions are met would affect someone even infinietly stronger than her and there is zero evidence in the manga to dispute that

>when it's not Hisoka vs Chrollo this is what you fags shitpost about all day long everyday
I hate all of you

>you guys
there's only one person that ever brings these things up, the problem is that too many people bite every time

Fine. Back to Pitou gender shitposting it is.

>shoot hit youpi and his effect still worked.
Because his ability does literally almost nothing in one application? He would need to touch Youpi about 70,000 times to beat him.

I bet the same turd who shits on Meruem is the guy who says cute catgirl Pitou is a man.

Please read chapter 210. Where they clearly state that depending on condition and environment, even a weak nen user can beat a master nen user

When was this ever stated in the manga or by Togashi? I just want to know

please stop responding to dumbpowerlevelfag

If shalnark was able to pierce Meruems skin, his ability should work. I'm just speculating but i'd say controlling someone uses nen, hence why illumi doesn't just go around turning the likes of ging, the zodiacs and his family into dolls since it would require a constant massive upkeep

>s
heh

It still worked and baise's ability would probably only for a few seconds or less n Mereum. The guy who cuts and eats peoples hair ability worked on bisky

STOP TALKING ABOUT MANIPULATION NEN ALL THE TIME

He's actually right you literal baboon.

>All Nen can be resisted
How do you resist her ability then? Nothing in the story says that you can overpower a manipulator if they fulfill their conditions. Even the simple ones like "kiss the target to control them for a short duration".

Ya, and if you have good enough En, you can detect Perfect Plan, right? That's why the royal Gaurds were able to see Meleron, right?

This whole "can manipulation be resisted" is quite pointless, isn't it? I mean, everyone can state their opinion, but at the end of the day, no reasonable debate is possible due to our lack of knowledge. And "it's fun" argument really hardly applies, since the "discussion" looks the same every time, where's the fun in that?

honestly, to even give a serious answer to a guy using a poll as evidence is already overdoing it

What will Tubeppa's froggo do?

I'm convinced no one actually cares but keeps arguing about it because it's like a recurring meme or something

Irrelevant strawmanning that you posted just so that you could reply to yourself with this No one is denying that conditions STRENGTHEN your Nen or that weaker Nen users can beat stronger ones. What everyone is trying to explain to your ultra-autistic brain is that conditions don't make your Nen irresistible if you're using a subset of a subset of Nen categories.

By every single Nen teacher in the series, Morel stating that there are no absolutes in Nen, by actual demonstrations of how Nen works in the series and by Togashi himself as well.

>If shalnark was able to pierce Meruems skin, his ability should work.
Incorrect. His NEN has to pierce Meruem's skin. The sticks themselves are worthless piece of garbage if they don't carry his Nen. And his Nen will never make it there.

>How do you resist her ability then?
Meruem doesn't need to "resist" her ability, her Nen would get obliterated by Meruem's Ren before her lips parted his. Also, I replied to you three times in this post.

>wants Pitou to be relevant so badly that they wish for him to be reborn without of the trails that defined his character
The absolute state of Pitoucancer.

>not enjoying all great works of shounen.

Croak.

The anus is on them to prove otherwise. Hisoka clearly said that if Chrollo touches him with Shalnark's sticks, it's game over. Just because I don't speak Japanese and can't verify the translation doesn't mean that I don't automatically win.

It's already stated that the will of the nen user is involved in the process.

For example an emitted nen beast would be destroyed if somebody attack it with enough power and the nen user that emitted the beast cannot fathom the idea of resisting the attack.
That was happened with the nen gorillaz in the dodgeball game.

On the other hand you have the little monster that Knuckles created that couldn't be destroyed by Meruem nen nuke attack.
So it's a bit fuzzy.

But we can assume that if a strong nen user could resist a nen beam then they could resist a manipulation technique.
It would be silly otherwise.

>When was this ever stated in the manga or by Togashi? I just want to know
>By every single Nen teacher in the series, Morel stating that there are no absolutes in Nen, by actual demonstrations of how Nen works in the series and by Togashi himself as well.
wow that's a great example user, you sure showed him

The entire point was the conflict between the human aspects they were beginning to develop and their initial any nature. Is it wrong to want to see how Pitou would turn out if given a chance at life to grow those human aspects? I already said I don't think it would actually happen.

Yes. I actually did. You being "ironic" about it doesn't change that fact.

Would be fun if Gon had a meeting with reincarnated Pitou only to end up killing her once more or at least trying to.

>His NEN has to pierce Meruem's skin
>Meruem doesn't need to "resist" her ability, her Nen would get obliterated by Meruem's Ren before her lips parted his
What makes you think her ability would get stopped by his Ren?

>Pitoucancer
Gon is cancer incarnate. If I could kill Gon to bring Pitou back, I would do so without hesitation. Pitou is a much better person than Gon.

Nen ability with weak conditions
>Easy to activate/control
>Limited or specfic functionality
>Power output or length can be modified by amount of nen user has

Nen ability with difficult condition
>Difficult to activate/control
>Can cover a wide range of functions when conditons are met
>Usually alot of blowback on the user (eg Pika Kastro had to focus hard to make a working clone)

No, you didn't

It's the same shitposter with the same arguments and I just wanted to see if anything changed.

>Also, I replied to you three times in this post
Calm your paranoia Patreak.

>her Nen would get obliterated by Meruem's Ren before her lips parted his
Prove that this can actually happen because not once in the story has a manipulator tried to control someone and had their "aura obliterated".

>It would be silly otherwise.
No it wouldn't, manipulation is stated to be able to do something and it can do it. Just like how you CAN create an indestructible nen beast with emissions. Manipulation abilities CAN control anyone who falls victim to the technique. Nothing about how Manipulation has changed since it was fleshed out in York Shin.

All Nen can be blocked by your Nen. Unless you want us to believe that Meruem survived Netero's Zero hand because his ant carapace is so tough.

Rank the princes by how dead they are:
>dead as doornail
1, 2, 3, 4, 8
>only mostly dead
5, 7, 11
>Schrödinger dead
6, 13
>likely not dead
9, 10
>absolutely alive
14

At what point, in the entire series, has someone ever used their Ren to "obliterate" someone's aura and negate the effect of anything that isn't pure, physical damage? Hell, name one time it's even been implied you can do this

>All Nen can be blocked by your Nen
You can't block Hakoware from activating though. So is it just an unblockable attack as well as being indestructible?

Komugi's not a child.

She used an old fashioned way of proposing to someone when she told Meruem how happy she was to be with him.

I think you have a severe chronic disease that causes you to act this way. Most of the things you say dont even make sense and aren't even based on the manga.
A battle between nen users isn't decided by the amount of aura they have

>Incorrect. His NEN has to pierce Meruem's skin. The sticks themselves are worthless piece of garbage if they don't carry his Nen. And his Nen will never make it there.
Exactly, Shalnark would never be able to pierce Meruem's skin and therefore would be able to activate his ability but in the offchance he did then his ability would work (eg a gon lik aura powered up his needle)

make me huehuehuhueheuheuehuhe

No.

>It's the same shitposter
>then he proceeds to bring up his mentally ill crossie drama
You're the worst shitposter that's been plauging these threads the last year or so.

>You can't block Hakoware from activating though
Because it's literally making you more powerful. It would be like your own Nen blocking your Enhancer Nen.

Roll.

You can block/dodge Knuckle's punch. It only works by lending aura to someone else which is transferred by physically hitting someone.

Your shitty poll means nothing. Meruem would fall under her control.

holy fuck, can powerlevel fags shut up? and the last thread was going so well

She is clearly a child.