Why does Sup Forums hate Subaru? Is it because he's an anti-self-insert...

Why does Sup Forums hate Subaru? Is it because he's an anti-self-insert? Is it because his character hits too close to home?

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He's ugly and obnoxious

He has autism and makes objectively bad choices. I can't care about someone who seemingly wants to suffer and die in edgy and over the top ways. He is utterly incompetent. There is nothing salvageable about his character. There's no progression, only random and jarring shifts. I remember when it was airing, everyone was wondering when the psychological stress was going to get to him and, instead of doing it in a gradual, natural way, it was, happy - happy - happy - happy - FUCKING KILL ME!
The series as a whole is juvenile from plot to romance and the fag kept finding bigger and bigger sharks to jump. Why do you not think he's an irredeemable piece of shit? Or do you and, instead of forming your own opinion, you're coming to a collective to validate your that hatred without having to do any thinking on your own?

How is he anti-self insert in any way? You're severely underestimating how autistic the average isekai fan is.

He's a nonsensical sperg. I've handled low functioning downie kindergarteners that have a better control of their urge to screech retardation.

he ugly

He is incredibly annoying as an MC. I think the author wanted the reader to be frustrated with him, but he wrote his character pretty bad, and the choices he makes are just blatantly stupid and irrational.
He is also one of the most visually ugly characters ever designed.

White Knight beta gary stu

Anti-self-insert my ass. He's maybe not as bad as Kirito but he's still a self insert character.

He's unlikable and constantly does things in the most retarded and convoluted way possible instead of using common sense. Almost all of his problems are his own fault and he doesn't acknowledge that.

Wat? He’s a PRO-self insert; it’s literally the entire point of his character. The only reason he’s such a loser and an idiot is so that real losers can imagine themselves being in his position and making wiser choices so they can feel better about themselves.

>he doesn't acknowledge that
Really? Because as far as I have watched, he did. In a big way.

Not really. He wallows in self-pity and angst a bit but without realising just how ass backwards and dumb every decision he's made so far was.

He really does nothing but just feel sorry for himself. It's thoroughly pathetic and genuinely irritating to deal with as a reader/viewer

>anti-self-insert
>he's actually self-insert

What the fuck do you mean OP? Judging by your post, you're an untolerable cunt just like Subaru.

I like him. He has a lot of character for an isekai protagonist.

At times I feel like there's too much forced drama in the LN, but it's nicely written and it makes me wonder where things are headed - so I keep on reading it.

Stupidity.

If I were him, I'd stop dropping my pants for the elf bitch and start wearing my detective hat instead.

Reminder that he did nothing wrong.
Emilia and Rem are ungrateful whores.

Because it takes 18 episodes for him to realize something basic like "maybe i'm doing it wrong?"

Or maybe the other idiots around him are just shitty people who don't appreciate him.

He's a retard. As soon as something magical and weird happens he dosent doubt it or try to find out what happend. No, better to be retard and follow some random girl around dying alot doing so.

Sup Forums hates him because it hates itself?

> Subaru
> anti-self-insert
Dumb newfaggot fag.

>anti-self-insert
big brain post

It's weird, but this show would have been a lot more interesting if he was capable of fighting. I mean, it shouldn't affect things, but somehow it does.

I suppose it's because when someone else is doing all the cool stuff, there's no inherent tension: You know Subaru's not going to rewind, so they can't fail.

As far as I can tell (dropped the series in the tens), Subaru is in a sense a well written character. He's a meaningful subversion of the typical isekai protagonist -- a genre filled with blatant escapism. So the story wants to pose a situation where such a protagonist is placed in a setting where no one is going to deal with his shit or treat him special. He's delusional and wants to contort the fantasy world to his dumb escapist fantasies, going as far as being a white knight who gets angry when princess won't spread her legs immediately for him.
My only problem with Subaru? Just that while I can understand the kind of person he is all too well, I'm still inherently annoyed by someone delusional enough to think the world owes them anything. Not really interested in seeing that kind of person grow, I just want them to grow up already. It's like relative you know who's up to dumb shit in his life that you don't want any part of until he sorts it out, so you keep your distance.

It's because he's more dense than a black hole

I don't like him because he's a bit too over-the-top. The autistic poses and so on are pretty far from normal human behavior. He would be more relatable if, you know, he didn't talk so much.

I don't hate him as a character, he's just in a shitty show where every other character is bland as fuck.

You mean in the WN?

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>Subaru
>anti-self-insert

Yeah.

Sup Forums hates him because he's a flawed character that doesn't grow by constant powerups and instead has to fail and fail constantly before he succeeds. In a sense he's so opposite to a Gary Stu that it's jarring to shounenfags

>being able to fail as much as the situations require is the whole point of his power
>not gary stu

He's literally "the virgin" if he were an anime character; otherwise known as the average Sup Forums or Sup Forums user.They hate themselves and so hate Subaru, who reminds them of themselves.

>"the virgin" if he were an anime character
What the fuck is "the virgin", and how dare you compare Sup Forums to Sup Forums?
Either way, Subaru makes a shitton of bad decision. No real person would behave like him - his flaws are incredibly exaggerated, past the point of being tragic. He does move on, becomes stronger and uses his head before opening his mouth over time, and hell, he even acts very heroically sometimes. But find me a person who didn't dislike the absolute shitshow he made of himself in the beginning of Arc 3.

>be a lonely NEET playing vidya all day
>suddenly find yourself in a strange fantasy world
>get saved by a cute half elf girl
>fall in love with her
>die trying to protect her
>suddenly you live again
>everything has reset
>die over and over and over again trying to protect her
>you want no reward
>all you want is to be by her side
>you see how she mingles with shiny powerful knights
>you do your best to not say anything despite your jealousy feeling like a stone in your chest
>you notice how she want's less and less to do with you
>eventually she throws you away like a used tool to be kept in the background
>you finally snap and tell her what an ungrateful whore she is

Just because you're a virgin doesnt mean you have to be a self-pitying weakling with no brains

>you do your best to not say anything despite your jealousy feeling like a stone in your chest
You forgot him sperging out like an autist he is when people shat on his waifu thus making it worse.

When you put it in that greentext he sounds like a typical nice guy

Also nobody wants to admit it but let's be honest, we hate him because he chose worst girl over best girl

>Anti self insert
>Every girl dripping wet for him
>Super power that basically makes him a god
>Only drawback of his power he is becoming increasingly accustomed to

>how dare you compare Sup Forums to Sup Forums
Do you even browse this board? There isn't much of a difference in the way an Sup Forums poster or Sup Forums poster acts, since they're all crossboarders. The only thing that differs is the content, and though this hasn't always been the case, it is now. Go look through the catalog for once and realize it's constantly flooded with dragon ball/one piece shitposting generals, low effort bait threads, and cookie cutter topic spam. Then come back and lecture me about the integrity of this board.

>how dare you compare Sup Forums to Sup Forums
How many months have you been here
90% of Sup Forums makes up like 30% of Sup Forums

>Is it because his character hits too close to home?
How exactly does he hit too close to home? Nobody on Sup Forums is fucking immortal and most neets on this board are probably socially retarded and would become the ultimate edge lords if they were isekai'd. I'm also sure that at least half the anons would go on a raping spree as soon as they realize what their powers is, kill themselves and do it all over again.

>>Every girl dripping wet for him
what

> implying each one of us edge lords wouldn't get our own edgy powers

Yeah like
>The power to die immediately day 1 after some idiotic oversight

You must be a riot at parties

I don't get invited to parties.

I have a gland problem and most people can't stand the smell.

Subaru is a demigod. He can will everything into existence just by trying. Even the strongest dude in that universe submits to Subaru and is inclined to work for him in an alternate storyline.

Normies hate flawed male characters.

In a non-canon what if story.

>Every girl dripping wet for him
Just Rem.

And Satella and Emilia and Petra and basically Ram now too.

Sure. How about you fuck off?

You can just admit you were wrong user, you don't need to get hostile.

>we hate him because he chose worst girl over best girl
>Worst girl
>Implying Rem not shit too
Pic related is best girl

Ferris is straight and he is in love with a girl.

The problem I have with this shit is that there's no sense of urgency whatsoever. No matter how badly he fucks up he can try an unlimited amount of times.

Technically never implied rem

Only girls he could ever choose are Rem, Emilia, Petra and Satella. He chose Emilia, Satella is not present and Petra is a kid.

>Straight
>Heals Toyota's hole with his "healing magic"
>Straight
No

It's only set in a different universe. Everyone still is in character.

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Nah, I don't think so. It's unrealistic. The whole "Dark Lord" thing is too unrealistic for Subaru.

Have you ever seen his dick? Exactly.

? He shows his anger and brutality all the time.

I liked his gusto but his show was absolute shit.

So? He is still just a random neet.

>and Petra is a kid.
and?

Alright
One of you is talking about the Echidna IF and the other is talking about Ayamatsu

Echidna IF Subaru exploits his power to the maximum with Echidna's help to get the best results
Ayamatsu Subaru dies a hundred times to Elsa, then when he's about to lose pretty much all hope Reinhard effortlessly deals with her and he, fittingly for an Archbishop of Pride, gets jealous and saves Elsa. Then he goes full evil route and works from the shadows to help Emilia, killing people for even potentially being in his way and it culminates in him setting the entire country on fire as it was the only victory he could really achieve against Reinhard by killing everyone he cares about.
Then he lets himself be killed by Emilia and for whatever reason he doesn't respawn.

>Then he goes full evil route and works from the shadows to help Emilia, killing people for even potentially being in his way and it culminates in him setting the entire country on fire as it was the only victory he could really achieve against Reinhard by killing everyone he cares about.
Yes, this is the unrealistic part.

Thank you wise-ass, but I'm just showing that user that every If is canon.

He dies a hundred times, afraid and confused by the new world he is in. Echidna IF Subaru dies a shit ton of well but instead of going full psychopath he becomes a sociopath. Ayamatsu Subaru doesn't have anything holding him back from becoming completely insane at that point (Remember that RbD is probably an authority and every time you use one you lose a little sanity)

>Archbishop of Pride
Oh so that's his sin? How lame

>it was, happy - happy - happy - happy - FUCKING KILL ME!
That stacks up with what he is though. Fucker's manic-depressive as shit, like most young blobs of wasted potential.

What would you have it be then? An ability that allows you to correct your mistakes and appear flawless is pretty fucking pride to me.

Pride would be not ever admitting to make mistakes in the first place. Recognizing your faults and fixing them is the opposite of what a sinful prideful person does.

I'd say greed, though that's another lame sin

He doesn't have to admit he makes those mistakes though. Because he doesn't make them according to everyone he knows. When he attempts to tell people about his failures and his power he is simply unable. Also are you honestly suggesting that he would keep making the same mistakes leading to his own deaths if he were Pride?
Subaru is a prideful retard who attempts to fight Elsa one hundred fucking times for no real reason.

If you have lurked for at least 2 hours you should have already notice that Sup Forums likes to be contrarian for the sake to be contrarian.

No we dont

They're all lame, but that's because they're the shitty sins that can be forgiven.

Not like the hardcore sins like murder and usury.

A power revolving around extorting people would be pretty cool

>The power to pay off loans with other loans producing infinite money

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What's up/pol/?

You walked right into that.

What was Sup Forums about my post? I just posted a picture of Bernie Madoff, the most successful usurer in recent history.

Admittedly I did
Surrree

>actual people ironically think this


jesus christ

unironically*

FUCK

You're making yourself look pretty foolish user.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Madoff

You know what would be cool? Since we as the audience see his deaths and fuckups it would be interesting to see his decent into madness from the world's
perspective

He's a jew my dude

I heard that it was explained better in the LN but from what I've seen in the anime. Subaru dropped the ball with his love confession. To me he seemed better than most spineless main characters even a bit charming in his own way. He fell in love with a girl for saving him from a simple ass kicking. But after witnessing Rem give her life for him in the most excruciating death he's witnessed, he still told her that he loved Emilia. Emilia who has time and time again shown that she is grateful to him but not in the slightest bit in love with him. If a woman doesn't love you after you risk your life for her than it's hopeless. I don't even like Rem but it's pretty shitty storytelling to have him stay in love with Emilia while ignoring Rem.

That's the point all the sin carriers act the opposite of their sins.

Keep in mind rem did slaughter him twice