Are there any parts of Japanese culture you'll just never understand

Are there any parts of Japanese culture you'll just never understand.

For me, it's the whole (poorer) family serving another (richer) family for generations, and taking great pride in doing so.

This chick was born a maid in service of the Sarashiki family, and that's all she'll ever be. The only reason she's even allowed to be at that IS academy is because her master goes there. And it's not even that she can't rebel or choose another path because her family will disown her. She herself, doesn't even notice her lack of freedom or question having her life decided for her. It's just such a GREAT honor to be in eternal servitude to a rich family...

Shit's just depressing.

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Stupid American go back to chewing oxycodone

Japs are natural cucks, blame Confucius

I'm pretty sure that is just normal historical thing.

Hell, even in LotR, Pipin's family was proud servants of Frodo's family.

Europeans did it too. It was called the Feudal system. Pay attention in class next time.

Americans did it too.
It was called slavery.

girls wearing skirts and casual shit in cold weather. WHY THE FUCK DO YOU DO THAT

>Hell, even in LotR, Pipin's family was proud servants of Frodo's family.

Yeah, but it's never taken to the extremes that anime/manga do it. Of course, that probably has to do with shitty writing and/or

Also, at least those take place in ye olden times. Seeing it in a modern setting is just strange. Especially seeing a child maid working at the age of 5 to another kid.

It's cute

It's not only japanese though.

>Especially seeing a child maid working at the age of 5 to another kid.

They call it friendship. The kind of unrealistic friendship that goes against human nature in almost every way. Never any deep seated resentments or looking down upon.

I think they just want to have the princess and her trusted servant trope thing going on, but it falls apart the moment you start thinking about it.

Giving a kid a sla...servant is going to corrupt both kids in so many ways.

She looks happy, stop trying to force your way of life onto everyone as if it's the only way to live.

Using honorifics with your family and/or wife.

Legs don't get that cold, and girls make sacrifices to look cute. If you wear bulky warm clothes on your upper AND lower body, you're gonna look frumpy as fuck.

Oh look, a thread full of poor people who don't acknowledge their betters. How quaint, hohoho

>you're gonna look frumpy as fuck
But that IS cute!

>(poorer) family serving another (richer) family for generations, and taking great pride in doing so.
Oh, just like modern wage slaves, then.

School swimsuits and bloomers. They are so unsexy. I guess it's just nostalgia from being in the Japanese school system.

I disrespect your post.

I don't understand how those bloomers could be considered even remotely appropriate for school. Lots of kids would be embarrassed wearing what's essentially underpants, and usually schools are strict on revealing clothes so it's weird that they'd allow it.

I've never actually seen girls wearing them though (in photos or IRL), they mostly seem to have normal PE uniforms.

This. And the amount of weight and importance honorifics are given in general. Especially in regards to the opposite sex.

The MC just cheated and had sex with his gfs best friend. What's the first thing he apologizes for? Calling the best friend by her first name. Just, what the hell? I'll never forget that.

Honorifics and first names make some sense though, we have fairly relatable equivalents (pet names, nicknames, addressing authorities with more formality etc). It's not quite so strict but it's easy to understand that you need a certain amount of closeness with people before you address them casually.

Oath of Fealty retard. It's not a strictly Japanese thing. Go back to school, fucking underage fags I swear.

Is the rest of the world seriously just breed and conditioned to be slaves? Jeez no wonder America conquered the world so quickly and easily despite all the other countries being several times older. Almost all the people in the other countries have been trained like dogs to serve their masters forever and never aspire to anything higher, and be happy about it.

They're not underpants, so it's not embarrassing.

>American slaves took great pride in being slaves for generations to the extent that modern stories depict modern niggers feeling the same way in similar situations
Fuck off Cletus

I feel bad for their youth with the whole "nail shat sticks up must be hammered back down" mentality.

You can't prove the latter sentence.

That you can't actually be honest with people and have a discussion. You have to use body language(for whatever fucking reason) to communicate.

How their legal system has to be absolutely perfect. Like in the Phoneix Wright games you can't present circumstantial evidence even though everything else has been fulfilled.

Also eating fucking red beans and that stupid noodles with the bamboo and water? Like what the fuck is that shit?

Also I don't get how Japan doesn't have an open and free society even though they got nuked twice.

>muh freedumb
Fuck off ameriturd.

This is why you have nobody to love.

Burger corporate slaves seems to be pretty happy and take a lot of pride in instagramming and whoring themselves out in social media parading in their shit pits last I check OP.

You might want to shit closer to home next time.

True.
El Goblino foot soldiers loves to take pictures of themselves dying and killing for their hated jews with zero personal interest at stake.
They even hold town parades for the biggest cucks among the goblins.

Yuropean HAET freedum!

That's not a Japan thing, pretty sure Alfred's family has served the Waynes for generations and pretty much the same thing in any show with a prominent butler. It just sticks up more in anime because the characters are usually teens, so they also get teen maids

You often had people serving the family of the local lord for generations too. People still do it to some extent.

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Its basically a smaller version of the whole thing where entire families are involved in serving a ruler/lord.
They hold pride in having godly loyalty to their bosses, its pretty much them taking their professionalism to the max.
It has a modern equivalent in entire families serving in the military, for example.

shoo shoo, back to your containment board goblino

No, we're not interested in your shitty propaganda.

>Also I don't get how Japan doesn't have an open and free society

Vast majority of the world isn't.

Yes!

Using the same yardstick. neither is America with its heavy handed punishment for any behavior that breaks social norms.

Burgers are simply more dishonest and deceitful about it.

That's not just Japan though you uncultured swine. Google Feudal Societies and Oaths of Fealty.

Is Pride and Loyalty that strange a concept to burgers? It's the same way how some staff will follow their boss or manager if they leave a company. They have trust in the character or vision of their boss and will gladly follow them in risky endeavors.

And more often than not, in fiction, the rich family is of the benevolent kind. And unless they take the usurper approach to the character, most characters in these circumstances take pride in the fact that they serve this family who do a lot of good to the world. Plus, if we're also taking the teenage highschool setting here, then other than the occasional mandatory butler/maid duties, said character also gets to experience the high end education that their master experiences. They eat the same good food too. Master is going on vacation the bahamas? You get to go there too free of charge. And when the Master grows up and takes over whatever the family business is, you're guaranteed a spot in the main entourage as a secretary, upper manager or the personal right hand man/woman of your master. Thats honestly a sweet ass deal. They'll live a life they never would've had if they were born in a common family.

You're right, America is most notable for having slaves. They are probably the only nation in history to have allowed slavery.
Oh that's right, I'm not a third world retard who is envious of better countries.

These aren't exclusive to Japan.

I don't get the kouseki system. Korea abolished it, why cannot Japan? It only leads to fraud and creates excessive bureaucracy.

T-there's nothing wrong with servitude, compared to the alternative, which is death and starvation, nyaa.

I wish my parents gave me as a slave to a girl my age.

If a rich person let me live in their house just to do their chores i would be damn-well pleased. Then they treat you like a friend and sometimes you just become part of the family.
If you're some Jap rice farmer rolling in your own shit working 16 hours a day just to survive, then becoming a servant to a rich family would be a massive step up.

The degree to which the japanese love being comfy. Everyone likes to be comfy, but they take it too far. What's more, they take something sacred - like being comfy in discomfort, and smother it in comfy to the point where you got to ask what's the damn point.

No, not at all, in fact it's entirely different.
A "wage slave" is just a non-parasitic existence, you see what makes slavery slavery is that you don't get paid and you don't have a choice of where you work, so given that a "wage slave" has both of these things, your use of the term is clearly just a weak attempt at seeming like a socialist revolutionary who knows muh profit is exploitation when in reality you're just a fat useless blob who your mother wishes she drowned as an infant. The "wage slave" is not cowed or confused by their supposed overlords, they're just willing to trade profits for stability, and people who run businesses are willing to assume risk for the sake of profit. You can actually model this time-risk-profit relationship, and it's the very most fundamental portion of risk analysis, but I'm sure you wouldn't care about that. You're the artistic type, right? Math was never your strong suit? Of course I don't mean you can draw, just that you can "appreciate" music and art, art mainly being anime chicks with dicks, yeah? Yeah, Anonymous? Yeah, hmmm? Hmm?

Dishonest? I mean we openly have the death penalty, so I'd argue you're actually just O B S E S S E D
The US has its own social norms which don't conform to Marxist ideals and never will, because American democracy was created not with the intention to eradicate generational wealth or vague notions of class, but rather to eradicate the legal barriers which were at the time intrinsic among Europeans - to make all (European) men equal (legally speaking). This also eventually applied to everyone given citizenship. Spamming about how surprised you are that the US isn't enlightened by Marxist standards just makes you an idiot, no matter how many other people do it, because a government of the people, by the people, and for the people was never "eyyy gimme ur shit porky how u have so much money u don need dat gimme tree fiddy" which ironically seems to be the norm amongst proud Europeans who like to screech about le 56%
Perhaps we just find the antiquated collectivist versions of pride and loyalty to be shallow masturbatory handwaving glorifying a lack of individual thought. There's not necessarily a lot of pride involved in being a kept house, bowing in return for gifts rather than making it in life on your own steam.

>rather than making it in life on your own steam.
The "American Dream" is nice and all, but 90% of people who pursue it just end up in the gutters or a rat trapped in a wheel where they're treated like shit by their "masters" and often have difficulty providing for their loved ones.

But hey, Master of your own destiny amirite?

That makes sense for back then. But the problem of OP is that it's about the 21st century in a first world country like Japan, which does have a robust social security system.

Wow, that wasn't even a subtle propaganda line.
>waaaaah how could this cruel country that established modern workers rights be so mean as to not install headpat machines in every office, life is so hard, let me mooch off my mom
Pthetic.

Headpat machines in offices would actually stress me out even more.

So you understand that making it big requires skill, luck, strategy, and risk-taking, yet you still begrudge the people who make it for assuming all of that risk and pressure and getting more than the people who do the daily risk-free work for normal wages (and the people who do nothing and complain about adults being responsible for their own destiny), and I'm meant to take you seriously?

Don't borrow money from literal criminals who won't follow the laws when you try to make your own start up that fails. Easy as peasy.
And if your start up is so shitty that the only financiers willing to give you the necessary funds are obvious yakuza, mafia or other criminal gangs, then your idea is either really really shit, or you need better people skills to market and convince normal people and the banks to give you the loans.

>I've never actually seen girls wearing them though (in photos or IRL), they mostly seem to have normal PE uniforms.

That's because the generation that had to wear them grew up and lobbied for a change to a more normal uniform.

>It's a WAAAAHHH why isn't this country as amazing as my burgerland episode.
Thats nice and all, but I'd like to live in a country where people are sane enough to not have public shooting sprees ever other day or so.

It is common in the Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Central Asia, Africa and the Middle East.
You used to be able to own slaves/child wives in Tibet but CCP commies put a stop to the practice.

You sure are dim, thinking your ideals reflects reality, the real world is not something as black and white as your ideals tries to simplify it to.

Also the namecalling sure do make you seem childish.

I used to walk home from the arcade in gym shorts after playing DDR in the middle of the winter. It was easier than having to change. You'd be surprised at how good your legs are at enduring the cold.

Name one social security system that allows you to go to the top school where rich kids go, or takes you to Maldives on a private jet ride to tag along on your boss' vacation.

Most of your heat escape through your hands, feet and head. So bare legs is not as cold as it looks.

Also looking cute is good for your own mental health

But those anime rich kids with their lifelong servant friends actually go to fucking normal plebeian schools to meet normal plebeian beta male main characters and fall in love with them because those beta males happen to be nice to them.

>eating fucking red beans
Red bean paste tastes like very mellow chocolate. It's pretty good.

Some of the best schools in nordic countries are public, just have A’s in all classes and you will be able to go to a top school with most expenses paid (all but housing)

why havent their social culture evolve beyond their feudal era.

>Is Pride and Loyalty that strange a concept to burgers?

Burger society is all about pretending that muh freedom is the most important thing ever.

Pride to your own country and its people are a foreign concept to burgers, where half them hate the other half.
Both sides are american with american beliefs.

Makes sense why the Ameriburgers would focus on freedom. They do have a good enjoyable life, have clean air, enough money to buy luxury items like two or three high tech entertainment systems, can watch free porn across the internet, travel on their own continent to another federal state to the beach, get drugs for cheap, and still speak their own language.

The burgers have largely achieved the American dream of living a good satisfying life. Now it's trying to find a good lasting social model that will last long enough, or improve on it.

>pretending

we have freedom, is not like we are some third world shit country with a dictator going around.

WAGEKEK SEETHING

>But hey, Master of your own destiny amirite?

That's the crux of the issue, isn't it? Japanese still largely believe they are beholden to fate and their lives are guided by "the powers that be". Even a modern concept like bloodtype can influence a person.
Meanwhile Europeans society developed around the exact opposite concept. TPTB explicitly gave humans free will and the power to make their own destiny, encouraging them to be free, innovate, and take the road less traveled. And then there's the introduction of the concept of charity, which gives a fallback option if a risk doesn't pay off.

In that case you must be the healthiest person alive~

Agree totally with the first point, like obviously you have to dilute most of what you say in the west though I think most would be driven insane if they were to live in Japan simply from the lengths you have to go to in order to seem formal and polite at all times and never break your facade.

You aren't free you silly bastard. Your country was founded by a bunch of slave owners who didn't want to pay taxes. Getting rid of slavery started a civil war. Legal equality took a huge civil rights movement. Even now systemic racism in burgerland is common as fuck. Even if you're white, you still have to pledge allegiance to the flag every schoolday like a god damn servant.

Nicely put, user.

Were Burgers so proud of their freedom when school shooting happened?

Well, I guess the burgers aren't perfect. Still, for most parts, their empire is still a place worth visiting.

Infinite Stratos is just shit

and remember that teachers are getting guns to control students.

...

only if you are a white.

You know Rockafeller was poor as shit and the son of a con-man, but he became one of the richest men ever by chasing his dream. The American Dream is real, but its all about how you go chasing it.

No different than the international bankers who sabotaged your economy with loans in fiat that they print out of air

Nah, being rich is more important.

It helps that he was a con-man himself.

What about the Rothschilds?

Nice quad btw

That's not how it works.

It's more like beta MC goes to super exclusive school because fuck you or some other contrived reason and then all the girls fawn over him because fuck you thats why.

You will delete this. Rockafeller was morally upstanding.

I say that there's been a shift happening, and the settings where the main characters go to pleb school outnumber the settings where main characters go to superelite schools nowadays.

Shit like shota and loli being legal and how no one complained or tried to ban it there. I guess they're okay with it, but if any other country did that they'll be slandered and get their shit thrown at them 24/7.

The guy is a great and shrewd businessman, I'll give him that. And that level of balls is honestly respectable.

But let's be real here. The guy is hardly a saint.

You know "loli" and "shota" don't necessarily refer to pornography of them, right? I'm sure you probably have movies starring children in them in your country, but you don't feel wrong about watching them, do you?

Do you mean Sam? The Tooks were one of the most distinguished families in the shire. Any deference Pippin showed to Frodo was due to the age difference.

>It was called slavery.
Except it isn't.

Shit like shotacon and lolicon then, jackass. Most of the shows that have these types of characters tend to cater to a specific audience anyways, so I don't get your point.

That's actually good. That means that he was a human, with human virtues and human faults.
Admire the good things he did and try to emulate his good traits, despise whatever bad things he did and try to not repeat the bad traits.

I think it's from the samurai days where nobility families had retainer families who were sworn to serve them in any way and in return they were protected by the nobility family and got to live a pretty decent life. It's a pretty common thing most cultures did in the past and I don't think it's an actual thing in Japan today, or at least pretty rare.