Let's talk about Tokyo Ghoul and its plagiarism

At this point in the time is clear for the most part of us that Tokyo Ghoul has become in a plagiarism of the manga Shingeki No Kyojin and the plot since Rue Island arc was almost completely improvised. Then what do you think was supposed to be the script of Tokyo Ghoul before of the plagiarism? Was there a script to begin with or not? Let's talk about it.

Offtopic: Basic Guide to understand the similarities between Tokyo Ghoul and SNK (In case of tumblr wants deny it)

Washu's clan (the rulers of the world) = The Reiss

Rize's Kagune = The coordinate (it even needs royal blood to work adequately)

The One Eye King/Dragon = Ymir Fritz

Kaneki ~ Eren (Eren: I gonna keep moving. Kaneki: I gonna move forward like a centipede. They are both usurpers of the throne who lack of royal blood).

well in that case a lot of stories are plagiarizing. Nothing you can do to fight it since it has its own way of telling the same story and different skinned characters.

This thread again? What’s your aim here?

Sage.

Who is trying to fight against it?

>Then what do you think was supposed to be the script of Tokyo Ghoul before of the plagiarism? Was there a script to begin with or not? Let's talk about it.

you seem to really be reaching for those comparisons my guy why dont you just watch the show and like it
this guy is right when it comes down to it that same story is seen in a lot more places
and its not plagiarism .... at all nothing was stolen in the slightest

The series are what two years apart? None of this is really plagiarism. The Washuu aren't exactly a new concept and Rize's Kagune is a meme.

Are you autistic?

The Washu is just some shit carried over from the cannibal clan in Penisman that have meme blood that are also from the Middle East since that's where the term ghoul originates

It isn't a new concept but it was clearly modified to be more close to The Reiss Family or Royals of SNK. That's why they have the power of the king (the coordinate/a special kakuja in this version) which can only be completely controlled with their own version of the Royal Blood.

No, what about you?

Yeah they have the One Eye King who is basically the progenitor Ghoul just like the progenitor titan of Shingeki No Kyojin or King Ymir.

I enjoy it user, but I can see the plagiarism because they are clear. Then I ask myself:

>Then what do you think was supposed to be the script of Tokyo Ghoul before of the plagiarism? Was there a script to begin with or not?

That's all, this is a thread to talk about that and share opinions about these questions.

It was completely stolen from SNK and the most part of Sup Forums knows it that's why we joke around saying that Kaneki is "The Tokyo Ghoul" because Eren ended being "The Shingeki No Kyojin" and some guys even asked "when will the WarHammer Ghoul appear?"

Yeah the same story can be found in many other stories but often these stories find their own ways of apply its own touch to the original script, the amount of details that Ishida took from SNK make it a plagiarism because he is using the most part of the idea changing basically nothing.

I don't criticize Tokyo Ghoul for having plagiarized SNK but I'm curious about if there was a script or not before of commit the plagiarism

Jesus user, there is no plagiarism. Fuck off with your retarded threads.

Jesus user there is plagiarism stop of close your mind to it, just because you like Tokyo Ghoul it doesn't means that there is not plagiarism, accept it is part of being neutral and a balanced reader.

No? There's no fucking progenitor ghoul. Every OEK was someone angsty enough to try to do a revolution because they were usually some mix of human/ghoul

I don't even like tokyo ghoul but saying that it's plagiarism is retarded. Why are you so set on this idea? Literally noone other than you thinks that.

>we
More like reddit.
And that joke is a fucking old ass meme rooting to title drops in media

>Literally noone other than you thinks that.

That's fake. Many people noticed it and they make fun of Tokyo Ghoul for that.

What you are referring to as Shingeki no Kyojin is in fact called The Eotena Onslaught.

OEK IS the progenitor ghoul, that's why he can create ghouls of human beings. Honestly this idea of OEK lost any kind of sense since that it stopped of being a title.

>The Eotena Onslaught.

What?

>Washuu
They were wiped out by fucking fedoras and clowns. They only thing they rule is a federal agency to kill ghouls.
Even if you somehow now want to argue that V = The Reiss. V is some masquerade-like organization to keep 'peace'.
>Rize's Kagune
I don't even know what the fuck you mean by "needs royal blood to work adequately" considering Kanou implanted that shit to like three different characters and 101+ orphans and they worked just fine. I'm pretty sure if Furuta somehow got Takizawa to eat over 100 Owl kakuhous he could've accomplished around the same result.
>The One Eye King/Dragon = Ymir Fritz
Absolutely wrong considering Ymir is the progenitor of the Titan jews and the OEK title belonged to at least three different figures related to Dragon isn't even the same as the OEK. Dragon is just some weird clump of RC magic cells that was created to give birth to something out of Kaneki's imagination that I assume everybody needs to team up to fight according to what Furuta said.
>Kaneki ~ Eren (Eren: I gonna keep moving. Kaneki: I gonna move forward like a centipede. They are both usurpers of the throne who lack of royal blood).
I guess everybody who says they won't ever give up is also ripping off each other. Kaneki didn't usurp shit. He was basically given the title to lead ghouls against the CCG (but fucked up) . Eren is actually royalty which gives him superpowers.

>More like reddit.

If everyone posting it are reddit then I guess that Tokyo Ghoulfags in Sup Forums are basically reddit.

But leaving jokes behind the fact is that Tokyo Ghoul modified its structure to be more close to SNK idea and concepts about Fake Peace, The royals, The Power of the King/Rize's kagune, The cursed protagonist who will die (Ishida undo this part because he never wrote Kaneki thinking that he could kill him eventually just like Isayama did with Eren), etc.

What I meant was that noone here thinks that. You are free to go back to facebook where you can discuss it with other people.

Is this the result of a failed bleach drinking attempt?
I suggest that you drink more and finish off the job, seeing you trudge on with so little living brain cells is painful.

>secret and powerful organization
>lineage-related plot power
>messiac figure
>underdog main character focused on moving forward
All extremely common staples of fiction.

>he used shitty meme subs
Sorry user you were duped. The translated title of Shingeki no Kyojin is Eotena Onslaught.

You type like an autistic third worlder from reddit so that's a start.
I shift through hundreds of clownposts everytime I go into a TG thread and I've seen more people compare TG to those western teen vampire novels than SnK.
V has been shown trying to maintain a fake peace since they talked about that shit since Chapter 125 of the original manga which released May 8, 2014 LONG before this WW1 Eldian vs NotEldians peace shit.
The Washuu is not comparable to the royals having literal world controlling superpowers. The Washuu just have stronger/RC richer blood which allows them to do ghoul things better which made it EASIER for Kanou to do what he wanted to do.
Are you seriously arguing that "cursed protagonist who will die" is something new in storytelling in general? You know what a tragedy is? You fucking nigger look at the final page of the FIRST chapter of Tokyo Ghoul and look at the narration if you think Ishida retroactively copied a timeless concept.

>Washuu

According to Eto, V is an organization that basically control the world to keep a fake peace in it and they are directly under the command of the clan Washuu, then the Washuu family basically govern over the society and the king comes from their lineage. This concept of a powerful family (with royal beings) which keep a "fake peace" using force and govern from the shadows is kinda the same idea of The Reiss in Snk.

>Rize's Kagune

Dragon can't be born if they use any other kind of kagune it must to be Rize's kagune because she inherit it from the clan Washuu, the lineage of the old king. But Kaneki couldn't have become in Dragon if he didn't take "The Core" from Furuta first. This is just like Eren who can't use the power of the king without the royal blood.

>The One Eye King/Dragon = Ymir Fritz

Dragon is the final form of The OEK, that's why the old king became in Dragon. Dragon is basically the origin of all the ghouls because he can transform the human beings in ghouls implying that the ghouls have a human origin just like The Progenitor Titan is the origin of the Titans.

>Kaneki ~ Eren

Yeah but curiously he decided say it after that Eren said it only a handful of months ago and you have to add to the phrase many other similar ideas that he took from SNK. Kaneki just like Eren used to be a normal person that received the power of the old king (Rize's kagune)

Eren isn't royalty, are you reading SNK?

Yeah this isn't my first language I'm still learning, sorry if I commit mistakes, but you understand the idea of my posts so let's keep moving.

>I've seen more people compare TG to those western teen vampire novels than SnK.

Yeah people usually tries to make it sound like their favorite works are deeper than they really are. But at the same time SNK rip off many ideas of a book called The Eternal Champion, that's why I said that I don't criticize the plagiarism committed by Tokyo Ghoul.

>V has been shown trying to maintain a fake peace since they talked about that shit since Chapter 125 of the original manga which released May 8

No, they talked about "Equilibrium" and that's a vague thing that can means many things like a peace agreement. Tokyo Ghoul argument is improvised since the arc of Rue Island, and I don't blame Ishida, he just needed a little of hiatus.

>The Washuu is not comparable to the royals having literal world controlling superpowers

But they are the guardians of the power of the King and the king came from their family just like the washuu. Even when The OEK/Dragon hasn't world controlling superpowers he is enough to to make humanity join as the only hope to win over him just like The Progenitor Titan.

>Are you seriously arguing that "cursed protagonist who will die" is something new in storytelling in general? You know what a tragedy is? You fucking nigger look at the final page of the FIRST chapter of Tokyo Ghoul and look at the narration if you think Ishida retroactively copied a timeless concept.

Tragedy can come in many ways but Ishida decided use the idea of "our protagonist is dying because a curse" only after Eren made this revelation, before Kaneki being cursed and destined to die for this curse was never a part of his tragedy.

:Re is plagiarising Bleach because of how bad it is and all the fights that make TG look like a shitty shonen manga

Haven't you realized it yet? Ishida is a hack. All of the smart Anons have been telling you this for years now. "Ishida is a hack" has been Sup Forums's battlecry for a long while. Ishida is a hack so check my 5.

>ESL
Please don't make huge OPs where your glaring lacking of English proficiency becomes painfully obvious.

what a truly retarded reasoning.

>Washu's clan (the rulers of the world) = The Reiss
So any story that has an influental or powerful clan is now plagiarizing SNK?
>Rize's Kagune = The coordinate (it even needs royal blood to work adequately)
If you could pleas post the page where it's stated that Rize's kagune needs "royal blood" in order to function, that would be nice.
Anyway Kaneki and the Yasuhisa twins disagree.
>The One Eye King/Dragon = Ymir Fritz
So, if a plot has a legendary historic figure it's copying SNK?
>Kaneki ~ Eren (Eren: I gonna keep moving. Kaneki: I gonna move forward like a centipede. They are both usurpers of the throne who lack of royal blood).
I hope you're not actually implying that Kaneki and Eren are in any way similar. They're fundamentally different characters.

You just picked vague commonalities many stories share, nothing of what you mentiod implies plagiarism.Also why do you want to talk about this, if you're so dead set on your opinion?

All this heavy plot stuff and background shit doesn’t fit right with Tokyo ghoul at all.
The manga really has no plot to speak of and this shit was just murmurs before.
So I hope ishida isn’t trying to make this some huge story about the history of ghouls and blah blah, it will not work.

If he is copying SNK they he should have made the world setting and it’s history interesting and inportant since chapter 1.

And not make it about some metrosexual bipolar faggot just doing random shit and finding himself.