One piece

>luffy brainlets think he won
we can all agree it was katakuri's victory or a draw at most, right?

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>Luffy is a tank guys!
My favourite new meme. This fight conclusion was shit.

>still in mirror's world
>still chasing the cake
>still running from BM
>still running from BM commanders
>Asspulls: The Arc

I hate this shit but I have to admit, my nigga Luffy lookin' real monkey god right here

OK, katakuri lost cause he got careless. He said he wasn't underestimating luff. But he could have used strategies. He could trap luffy in mochi, but chose to go head to head.

>Luffy gets beaten to piss for a million chapters
>still standing
>Katakuri receives a few punches
>knocked the fuck out like a bitch

You literally cannot defend this. Oda is a hack.

>m-muh rubber body
It was already established that haki nullifies his ability to absorb blunt damage
>m-muh luffy is just tanky
And a fucking Yonko commander is not? This doesn't excuse Katakuri breaking all jobbing records to a form that DOESN'T EVEN PRIORITZE POWER unlike Boundman
Also, people have been constantly defending Luffy's tanking by saying "Everyone in One Piece can fight for days!", but suddenly when Katakuri jobs this point is conveniently dropped.
>hurrdurrr protagonist must always win THIS IS A SHONEN DON'T YOU REALIZE
Literally not an excuse for shit writing. Nevermind the fact that "DUDE JUST TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF XDD" is a defense only DBS spics use - You are just admitting it is shit writing and asking people to ignore it (which is why DBS spics do it because they can't defend the writing so they beg you to ignore it). In other words, concession accepted.

>Luffy fights back then
Back and forth struggle
Both Luffy and villain get BTFO repeatedly
Ends with Luffy edging out a win

>Luffy fights now
Luffy gets BTFO for 5000 chapters until
O MY ASSPULL FORM
shitstomps the enemy

OP is a manga aimed at kids. Yes, the writing is frequently shit, but the intendend audience doesn't care.

Just ignore oda cock suckers.
I hope oda will handle future fights way better than this shit show.

>Capone now suddenly being honorable
hmmm

>we want luffy to lose 7 times to each major enemy before he wins to make this fight "realistic"

do you even want one piece to end you retards

In the animation, luffy will turn off his brain to fight katakuri

Why do you read shounen if you get this critical over an MC victory.
Not actually trying to piss you off, but I am curious what leads you to expect more from Oda?

Katakuri lost, but everybody understands on some level that it was completely bullshit.

Bitches always come back for more, no matter how terrible

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Their reading the wrong manga if they want realism.

Katakuri isn't used to getting punched, that's why he jobbed so fast

Oda wanted to copy Goku's asspull victory over Jiren that is soon to happen

That doesnt explain anythin

literally all of luffy's fights, kys my man

Why would anyone vote luffy won, the whole reason for a vote tally is to grind some gears.

Imagine reading something you hate every week.

Katakuri is not used to tanking hits.

what killed the hype ?

Actual headcanon

so sanji and pudding fucked right?

Why did Oda make the fight look so one-sided if he planned Luffy to win this shit from the beginning. At least make the fight look like it fits with the end result.

>man who can see to the future
>ever getting hit

Luffy win this fight
Kata is stronger

Because this is a victory that the MC shouldnt' have had.
He NEEDS to lose so he can grow from this.
He needs a whitebeard and a garp.
Two powerful quasi foes that he'll eternally fight against and either lose or win depending on a host of factors
Someone who's powerful enough to attain the one piece and act as a powerful measuring stick or someone who we know will make for an awesome battle.
Not a designated end boss who's going to lose kind of bad guy or a pink haired girl voiced faggot.

This is not about the winner.
This is about ten(?)chapters of luffy getting curbstomped and knocking out katakuri who is clearly stronger with a number of punches that i can count with both of my hands.
It's simply bad writing.

Solids points, but don't expect to get through to anyone in these threads.

I wasn't aware people who shitstomped their enemies collapsed right after

>Katakuri never got hit in his life until he mastered Kenblabla haki to the point of precognition

Like I said, headcanon.

I'll play devil's advocate. Sweet Commander's do seem pretty brittle when you actually land a blow on them. Cracker went down in one punch. Depending on how long Katakuri has been a logia it's possible he's not really used to taking damage, especially considering his crazy observation haki as well

>wan pass tards actually defending this shit writing

>Katakuri got knocked out
>Luffy is still standing
>somehow there are people claiming Katakuri won
I'm honestly starting to think that visiting One Piece threads on Sup Forums gives you brain damage

But he took hits better than Luffy did and his haki was superior.

Both were knocked out, though.

>writing is frequently shit
it wasn't back in the day(excluding pell of course)
>muh demographic
Not an excuse for badwriting. SNK and Death Note were shonen and their writing was consistent and complex

You asking me why he didnt do a good job as to when Oda was in his prime before the time skip? Really i think he was trying to capture that hopeless feeling he gave in previous chapters before time skip but cant bring that back because of Haki, so he defaulted on the MC wins because of his rubber plot armor both in terms of literary sense and the physical.

>And a fucking Yonko commander is not?
Dogtooth focused on never being touched and dealing massive damage. A traditional dex stat character with the defense and health pool of a wet paper bag.

Even Jack got BTFO quickly though, and he seems bulky.
All the commanders just seem like jobbers at this point. It already started with Whitebeards guys.

Kinda like with Crocodile, and Enel, and Lucci, and Doflamingo

How long did Luffy use Snakeman?

Katakuri's heart wasn't in it.
He was only protecting Big Mom out of a sense of duty, but seeing someone come at him with such conviction made him re-evaluate his priorities.
Katakuri changed mid-fight and that's the important takeaway.

And why the fuck does everyone and their mom have Conqueror's Haki now?

I see, but when you look at it, it looks like it was a draw and the only victory here was Luffy gets away with his life.
From what i see it was a double KO. And the only reason Katakuri collapsed was he finally got to rest after standing all the time.

These are good points, but unfortunately most OP fans are diehard defenders of this shitty writing. Post this on a dedicated OP forum, and you'll have troves of OP asskissers on your tail. Most OP fans don't give a shit about logic or a well constructed plot; they want Luffy to always win.

Katakuri isnt a Logia is he? Mochi isnt a natural occuring element.

How does Sup Forums defend the o my nazom scene?

Like 30 minutes? 40? It started at 12:05.

Just the major players, we are in the part of the story where the strongest of the strong are beginning to gather.

if smoothie and Snack go down easily then you'd be correct
but crackers and biscuits are meant to break easily, mochii on the other hand is made by repeatedly pounding it with a hammer

why are shitposters ignoring that the fight went on for almost a day or so and we only got glimpses of it until the very end.

He's one of the top dogs of the Yonko, are you actually implying that he hasn't fought retardedly strong opponents who could hit him before and that actually he's not the only jobber in the New World, but everyone is?

Katakuri pulled a Z on us.
Pekoms makes no sense.
Oda needs a bigger break cause this is some bullshit that is unacceptable for someone who usually plan his shit out. I actually like WCI. Best timeskip arc imo but come on.

He was losing the fight right up until the last attack. Katakuri had stronger everything and took 1/3 the damage Luffy did, yet we're expected to believe Luffy was the last one standing? It doesn't make any sense.

1 in a million means we can have a few dozen Haoushoku users since OP's population is likely around 50-100 million.

Besides we only got 10 confirmed users so far: Luffy, Ace, Shanks, Whitebeard, Rayleigh, Hancock, Doflamingo, Linlin, Katakuri, and Chinjao. Roger and the other 3 Emperors likely have it to, so that's 14. It's still pretty rare.

It's simply that we are exposed to much higher-tiered characters in the story. It's expected that people with monarch-esque mentalities would want to explore and conquer the New World, and to become Pirate King over every other person. Roger's mission to find OP attracts people with Haoushoku no Haki like flies.

Wiki says he's a paramecia apparently.

But haki passes through that ability anyway. Honestly the only reason Luffy is probably tough as he is despite his devil fruit is because his grandfather has been wailing on his with haki punches ever since he was little.

Usopp will have it, too

>every time it shows the clock, we see Luffy getting beaten up hard
>we're clearly supposed to think he's been getting beaten up nonstop for over an hour

Le infinite stamina meme
>hehe I just remembered something
>O MY SNAKEMAN
30 minutes later, Katakuri is kill

>doesn't reply to any post BTFO him
Nigger.

Reread the fight

...

They we're fighting for a long time. Katakuri had to take off-screen shots.

Post yfw a character smokes weed

I get what you are cominng from, and it is hard to believe that Luffy gets back up again, but look at Katakuri for a sec. Look at what weighs him down, he is honorable amoung pirates so that takes a chunk out of his stamina as a result, and then there is the image that Katakuri has for himself where he has to go into hiding just to sit down.
Thats really tiring if you thing about it, then the last hit katakuri gets hit in the stomach where he wounded himself from before.
I dont think the fight was really fair to begin with either, luffy was exhausted that he was falling in and out of consciousness that is haki was the only thing protecting him. Kinda like how he can eat and sleep at the same time.
Really the only explination i can give you any further is that Luffy got a second wind, which is also a bullshit answer.

Yeah paramecia is things that humans have made or can do by combining elements unnatually.

Rereading it actually solidifies how much Katakuri dominated Luffy for most of the fight.

So Pekoms is gonna run away too?
He can't stay in the BMP after what he just did

Then how come Katakuri is bleeding?

i would be pretty indifferent to the outcome of this fight if it wasn't for luffy putting his hat over kuri's mouth

>"K-KATAKURI WAS SUPPOSED TO ENDURE IT"
>a man who has a time of day dedicated to eating donuts and drinking sweet tea
>likely eats other forms of sweets throughout the day
>good endurance
Pick one, shitposters.

sweet no pun intended so now the mochifaggots will replace the jobflamingo faggots in delusional mental gymnastics? Can't wait 3 arcs from now people still arguing how mochijobber is somehow stronger than current baddie. time to update the muslim guy complaining about delusional faggots

The problem was that Oda didnt lwt luffy get in a couple of hits to katakuri, Oda was driving home the Idea that Katakuri is the twisted mirror version of Luffy.

Because he stabbed himself you brainlet

Why is Oda such a genius? He manages to implement some detail that can BTFO shitters with just a few key strokes

In the head? Because there is blood all over his face and body.

In the face??? What about the bruises???

I legitimately cannot tell if this is bait or if Oda defenders are that desperate.

Katakuri is a special paramecia that has logia properties. Logia's don't need sustenance, the man just eats snacks because he likes them.

So your stamina would be amazing if all you ate was donuts and sweets?

Why do people call Oda a hack. He has the most consistent story with almost no plot-holes

>Logia's don't need sustenance

Okay, they are that desperate.

>Katakuri is a special paramecia that has logia properties.
What? He has awakened his fruit power, thats why he can do the shit that he is doing

I think the real thing that gave Luffy the edge is how cognizant he was after he woke up. Luffy gets a lot more value out of sleep than probably anyone in the series. So he lost the fight since he was knocked out first but even though Katakuri woke up first, it wasn't with the same amount of energy that Luffy had. Probably because he's 48.

Speedreader

Luffy can keep injecting oxygen to his muscles, isn't that unfair

>He has the most consistent story with almost no plot-holes
That's literally the reason.
Not an argument, hackposter.

Can you explain why it doesnt matter?

Hes a special paramecia, the awakening just allows him to turn his surroundings into mochi. The same as how Doffys awakening made him able to turn his surroundings into string.

0 proof she kissed Sanji
Luffy is not interested in Nami

bah, i don't know boys. the moment luffy came back on his own to train his observation made the outcome of the fight quite obvious. i'm more than satifisied with the implementation of a tie-ish ending and luffy ultimately paying respects to katakuri (has ever done that to one of his opponents?)

Did what? It was Nazoms.

You realize Luffy ate a fucking chocolate house just 24 hours prior.

Well, user. Katakuri isn't a Logia

Oda just didn't plan this arc out well. It was originally intended to end earlier but he decided to extend it at the last minute and the fight was bs and poorly done. He should have at least shown katakuri getting hit more often instead of Luffy just tanking hundreds of hits. It didn't help that he never focused solely on this fight and had to always cut back and forth between scenes (same thing that slowed down dressrosa).

Does anyone else love Pekoms here?