***,*21位/***,*21位 ◎ (**5,180 pt) [*,147予約] 18/03/28 18/01 Yuru Camp 1 [Blu-ray]
***,155位/***,154位 (**2,254 pt) [*,*40予約] 18/03/28 18/01 SoraYori 1 [Blu-ray]
***,207位/***,204位 (**1,846 pt) [*,*36予約] 18/06/06 18/01 Cooking with Chief Emiya 1 [Blu-ray]
***,252位/***,247位 (***,795 pt) [*,**7予約] 18/03/28 18/01 【Amazon.co.jp限定】Takagi Vol.1 [Blu-ray]
***,269位/***,296位 (**1,725 pt) [*,**0予約] 18/04/04 18/01 【Amazon.co.jp限定】Violet Evergarden 1 [Blu-ray]
***,306位/***,300位 ◎ (***,864 pt) [*,**4予約] 18/04/25 18/01 Hakumei and Mikochi [Blu-ray BOX]
***,330位/***,323位 (**1,609 pt) [*,**1予約] 18/03/14 18/01 Gay Swords [Blu-ray]
***,332位/***,325位 (**1,234 pt) [*,**2予約] 18/05/09 18/01 Cardcaptor Sakura 1 [Blu-ray]
***,338位/***,329位 ◎ (**1,291 pt) [*,*15予約] 18/04/25 18/01 Overlord 1 [Blu-ray]
***,349位/***,391位 ◎ (**1,237 pt) [*,**4予約] 18/05/30 18/01 DEVILMAN crybaby COMPLETE BOX [Blu-ray]
***,417位/***,416位 (**1,220 pt) [*,**1予約] 18/04/04 18/01 Violet Evergarden 1 [Blu-ray]
***,485位/***,553位 ○ (**1,828 pt) [*,**3予約] 18/03/14 18/01 Gay Swords [DVD]
***,495位/***,560位 (***,880 pt) [*,**0予約] 18/05/23 18/01 【Amazon.co.jp限定】Fate/EXTRA Last Encore 1 [Blu-ray]
***,514位/***,504位 (**1,345 pt) [*,*18予約] 18/03/28 18/01 Loli Shogi 1 [Blu-ray]
Amazon Preorder Stalker thread
***,538位/***,510位 (**1,138 pt) [*,*13予約] 18/04/25 18/01 【Amazon.co.jp限定】Darling in the Franxx [Blu-ray]
***,594位/***,580位 (**1,084 pt) [*,*11予約] 18/03/28 18/01 Takagi Vol.1 [Blu-ray]
***,672位/***,655位 (***,964 pt) [*,**1予約] 18/03/14 18/01 【Amazon.co.jp限定】Gay Swords [Blu-ray]
***,689位/***,675位 (***,675 pt) [*,*23予約] 18/03/28 18/01 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 SoraYori 1 [Blu-ray]
***,729位/***,712位 (***,297 pt) [*,**0予約] 18/04/11 18/01 Transgender Durarara [Blu-ray]
***,792位/***,767位 ◎ (***,316 pt) [*,**4予約] 18/03/28 18/01 Ramen Slut [Blu-ray]
***,837位/***,814位 ◎ (***,476 pt) [*,**6予約] 18/04/25 18/01 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 Hakumei and Mikochi [Blu-ray BOX]
***,864位/***,839位 ◎ (***,197 pt) [*,**0予約] 18/04/18 18/01 【早期購入特典あり】After the Rain [Blu-ray]
***,867位/***,818位 (***,221 pt) [*,**0予約] 18/03/28 18/01 【Amazon.co.jp限定】Slow Start 1 [Blu-ray]
***,906位/***,895位 (***,455 pt) [*,*23予約] 18/06/06 18/01 【Amazon.co.jp限定】Cooking with Chief Emiya 1 [Blu-ray]
***,934位/***,921位 ◎ (**1,337 pt) [*,*52予約] 18/04/25 18/01 【Amazon.co.jp限定】 Overlord 1 [Blu-ray]
**1,070位/**1,050位 (***,610 pt) [*,**3予約] 18/03/21 18/01 Dagashi Kashi s2 [Blu-ray]
Just stop, the threads are dead now that the chink faggot has been BTFO once and for all.
This. Only VEG fags care about this shit.
**1,109位/**1,090位 (***,718 pt) [*,*16予約] 18/04/25 18/01 Darling in the Franxx 1 [Blu-ray]
**1,152位/**1,122位 (***,460 pt) [*,**2予約] 18/03/28 18/01 Slow Start 1 [Blu-ray]
**1,227位/**1,187位 ◎ (***,*98 pt) [*,**0予約] 18/04/25 18/01 Toji no Miko [Blu-ray]
**1,248位/**1,233位 (***,303 pt) [*,**3予約] 18/03/21 18/01 Takunomi [Blu-ray]
**1,309位/**1,267位 (***,315 pt) [*,**3予約] 18/03/28 18/01 Mitsubishi Colors Vol.1 [Blu-ray]
**1,463位/**1,408位 ○ (***,281 pt) [*,**1予約] 18/03/28 18/01 SoraYori 1 [DVD]
**1,555位/**1,461位 ○ (***,138 pt) [*,**0予約] 18/03/28 18/01 Slow Start 1 [DVD]
**1,557位/**1,511位 (***,623 pt) [*,**2予約] 18/05/09 18/01 【Amazon.co.jp限定】Cardcaptor Sakura Vol.1 [Blu-ray]
>***,538位/***,510位 (**1,138 pt) [*,*13予約] 18/04/25 18/01 【Amazon.co.jp限定】Darling in the Franxx [Blu-ray]
>**1,109位/**1,090位 (***,718 pt) [*,*16予約] 18/04/25 18/01 Darling in the Franxx 1 [Blu-ray]
>reading comprehension
Yuan is worth 16 times more than the Yen.
Chink streaming is still on top.
Everywhere I check VEG keeps creeping up.
>***,*21位/***,*21位 ◎ (**5,180 pt) [*,147予約] 18/03/28 18/01 Yuru Camp 1 [Blu-ray]
>***,155位/***,154位 (**2,254 pt) [*,*40予約] 18/03/28 18/01 SoraYori 1 [Blu-ray]
All that matters except...
***,864位/***,839位 ◎ (***,197 pt) [*,**0予約] 18/04/18 18/01 【早期購入特典あり】After the Rain [Blu-ray]
Why, the show it's at least 1000000000000000 times better than VEG, why!?
>**1,309位/**1,267位 (***,315 pt) [*,**3予約] 18/03/28 18/01 Mitsubishi Colors Vol.1 [Blu-ray]
Come on Japan. You're supposed to like lolis doing cute things.
In what way is Koi wa better than VEG?
>Chink streaming is still on top.
Is there anyone that believes this?
Feels good
The data?
What's this data of exactly
...
Streaming cash. It surpassed the BD cash 2 years ago.
businessinsider.jp
It might not keep streaming sites rich but the production committees love it.
It says nothing about it being Chinese. Japan has plenty of streaming sites too.
>chink streaming is still on top
>posts site that says nothing about China
I'm just posting data mates, China is easily the largest chunk of that pie. The user that started this muh china thing might be jumping the gun but he's not that far off.
We also had a thread about bilibili today, they don't really profit much from the ads model and we still don't have data on how the paid views model is working out besides for VEG.
>***,*21位/***,*21位 ◎ (**5,180 pt) [*,147予約] 18/03/28 18/01 Yuru Camp 1 [Blu-ray]
>***,155位/***,154位 (**2,254 pt) [*,*40予約] 18/03/28 18/01 SoraYori 1 [Blu-ray]
Considering today's Nadeshiko's birthday, this is excellent news.
How are Ramen Daisuki Koizumi-san and Slow Start doing?
That's japanese streaming idiot. Chinese government literally takes 70% of profit there. Bilibili recently releases their revenue stats and licensing expenditures and it's many times less than you think.
>China is easily the largest chunk of that pie
No it's not. You have no idea what you are talking about. They are less than 1/4 of it.
Yes, I saw the thread Einstein. And the site posted does not specify where all that money is coming from.
Source me up.
>***,792位/***,767位 ◎ (***,316 pt) [*,**4予約] 18/03/28 18/01 Ramen Slut [Blu-ray]
>***,867位/***,818位 (***,221 pt) [*,**0予約] 18/03/28 18/01 【Amazon.co.jp限定】Slow Start 1 [Blu-ray]
>**1,152位/**1,122位 (***,460 pt) [*,**2予約] 18/03/28 18/01 Slow Start 1 [Blu-ray]
>**1,555位/**1,461位 ○ (***,138 pt) [*,**0予約] 18/03/28 18/01 Slow Start 1 [DVD]
Slow Start is picking up speed. It was at rank 10,000+ just yesterday. First time I'm seeing it in top 1000.
Everything, you name it.
Will sell about 600-1000 each.
Not like they're solely depending on disk sales though.
They spend 262 million yuan on licensing. Which is about 4 billion yen.
As seen in that's just 10% of steaming revenue in 2017.
Keifuku sold out a 3rd time again and should be restocked by tomorrow
Not really, it was in the Top 1000 last week too. Probably since the episode just aired, it should go back down by next Sunday.
Nice to see another season completely dominated by cute girls.
Idolshit sold good thanks to tickets but GuP and Keifuku will rape it hard.
Impossible for Keifuku
They cannot cope up with the demand and would probably keep on being sold out until next season. Probably
Not even them anymore, after that thread debunking the
>muh chink moni
meme
Roughly 10% of it all on one site from one country is rather big. If only baidu could release the same kind of data for their little pet iqiyi.
>industry revenue in 2017 was over 2 trillion yen
>disc sales and streaming together is just 90 billion
You fags are arguing like retards over a segment worth less than 5% of anime revenue.
They didn't take the currency conversion rate into account because they're retarded.
Chink streaming cash is still strong.
Idiots are acting like most of streaming revenue is China which is obviously bullshit. They are lucky if it's 25%.
We're trying to make sense on the niche stuff, not shit like one piece and sazae-san.
But they did? They converted it to dollars, and also converted yen earnings to dollars.
>Extra lost to a fucking cooking anime
Maybe Nasu will give us HA after HF
You ought to improve your reading comprehension. VEG is a money making machine, get over it.
Sazae-san makes next to nothing and entire One Piece revenue in 2017 was 300 million $.
Most of anime $ comes from otaku merch. Your show may sell 1k but if cute girl figs from it sell good you make 10x more than discs ever could.
That's just another "We don't know how it works therefore it is not a flop"
Combined with "It is special because it achieved success in something that no one else is interested in"
Old guy falling for a 17yo girl>older guy falling for a 10yo girl.
>there is no data
>here's my data to prove its not a flop
?
Sazae-san and Doreamon are cultural heritages, though
You can't compare them with the common shows
Use something like Naruto or Bleach if you want to debate something fair
>VEG is a money making machine
For the site not KyoAni. They got license $ and that's it. We already know Bilibili pays around 1 billion yen per season for all shows they have.
That's 10 million $ for every single show put together.
Naruto and Bleach are still on a different league compared to VEG and others. Those two are WSJ and are like 10x more popular than most otaku shows. The average Japanese person on the street very likely knows Naruto or Bleach, but might not know about VEG or Franxx.
If you want a fair comparison, perhaps stuff like Madoka or Re:Zero would be closer.
Madoka made over 400 million $ in merchandise over 2 years. Back then it was more than One Piece was making.
Re Zero didn't even make 1/10 of that.
How long until the Chinese buy kusoanus lock, stock, and barrel the way they're buying out Australia and New Zealand?
Serves them right for their current "screw gullible LN writers out of their rights" business scheme. At least Antichristplex pays their authors.
Foreign companies can't own anime studios by japanese law.
You can literally go on bilibili right now and check how many paid views the new episode has and then do some simple math, it's hardly rocket science.
I've been keeping track of weekly paid views for 2 weeks now and it's a lot of fucking money from bilibili alone.
They get a share of the paid views too buddy. In fact there's more than just one kind of contract involving paid views on bilibili, some shows have new episodes locked while others are entirely locked - yet most remain free.
You think production committees are going to accept their product going under a pay wall without milking some of that too? Please.
That's what holding and dummy companies are for.
>They get a share of the paid views too buddy
You know literally nothing about this and have no evidence.
KyoAni is struggling with minimal profits for years now. Maidragon was overall far more profitable for them in China because it also sold tons of licensed merch.
It's about time they started making good originals not animating those fucking LN crapfests.
Japan is not Africa. They know how to do business.
>Yuru camp is a Madhouse original
Madhouse is saved.
The thing is that BD cash and streaming cash go to almost the same shit, most anime that sells well BD wise is also available to stream even on youtube japan.
Sora Yori you baka.
There is no data for paid views since it's a brand new model. You're just hoping really hard that Japan is braindead and lets foreigners lock their product with a pay wall without getting a share and that foreigners don't compete with each other for the most popular shows like VEG.
>GuP flopping hard
>Not even on the list
It was a stupid series anyway.
Disc sales are still the best indicator of popularity.
Yeah sure there are just a small part of the pie in terms of what revenue a given series generates, but like I said they're an indicator.
A series with great disc sales is probably also gonna have great merchandise sales, event ticket sales, stream revenue, etc.
You won't really find many (seasonal) shows that have terrible disc sales but amazing merchandise sales. It's a package.
Considering how conservative their business culture is, I'm not so sure about that.
>Sora Yori
?
>GuP wasn't even released this season
>Not even on the list
It was a stupid reply anyway.
Source? Pretty sure One Piece makes more money than some otaku FOTM. And 2011 was the year of One Piece.
Discs + streaming put together is less than 5% of entire industry revenue and Oricon tracks about 60-70% of disc sales.
Those threads are 100% worthless.
Show may sell 600 discs and still make good profit in other ways.
Not him but shows like that are rare.
The proper term is that "Disk sales are good representatives of the success of the franchise"
A disk sales are proportional to the popularity and sales of everything in the franchise. The only exceptions to this are the manga, game, and movie ads which are rare to start with.
So in other words we don't know a damn thing. So why are people so readily declaring FGO and Darling to be busts?
Shitposting.
If it were that big of possible profit margin, most if not all studios/comitees would be putting their series behind pay walls.
Pay walls kill viewership and that's not something you want as a streaming website when it comes to average shows that can't even get free views.
Like I said in another thread, Violet is an exception because the rest of the paid shows this season are getting choked by this model. Those hardly get views anymore,it's risky stuff.
The show that sold a lot of dics has a much higher chance of sequel than the show that didn't. It's a fact.
The stars sure aligned, huh
I'm not in control of what chinks like.
Chink faggot was canned?
Well damn, about time the mods did something good.
It's really weird that it's really only VEGposters (and I guess KyoAni posters for that matter) who keep bringing up China and Chinese streaming. Fans of other studios, even of shows which are also doing well in China, don't seem to bring up China for some reason.
>***,*21位/***,*21位 ◎ (**5,180 pt) [*,147予約] 18/03/28 18/01 Yuru Camp 1 [Blu-ray]
>***,155位/***,154位 (**2,254 pt) [*,*40予約] 18/03/28 18/01 SoraYori 1 [Blu-ray]
YES!
Show me the merch.
>because it also sold tons of licensed merch.
Source?
And where does it say that kyoani is getting a share of those paid views?
It doesn't pander to otakus or fujos, the manga is fairly popular though.
They are so desperate because their magnum opus is not number one on every chart there is.
Fuck off flipfag.
Are you sure? Because every generic ecchi show with waifubait characters sells tons of figures and merchandising.
Because China is relevant?
boxofficemojo.com
Does that entail the show to have been a financial failure?
Even if it is, you never saw Re:Zero fags go "muh China" back when it was airing.
Ecchi shows have been doing poorly for some time, though. Just look at Shobitch or Killing Bites for example.
I doubt Killing Bites sell anything
Or that Bitchy show from Fall season
On the very existence of the paid system. If you're not going to make money out of it just have it entirely free to view like Overlord.
But if you are going to milk it, put it on a pay wall like Re:Zero, Boruto, VEG and Fate/Extra.
It's as relevant as any developed country but you don't see Citrus and Devilman saying anything about their massive success on other platforms
Nothing but Kyoanifags and their China
I see Citrusfags bringing up Crunchyroll all the time, though that could be more because they're in the production committee. Oddly enough, I don't really see Devilmanfags go "muh Netflix".
Kinda like you faggots going on to have stalker threads just to dick measure?
At this point it doesn't matter who brought up which since international revenue is now kicking in.
Face it. The market is growing internationally and the anime industry is no longer the Galapagos island you once imagined it to be where sustainability is only within what their area can give.
That itself is a good thing for the industry but then again that doesn't mean shit for you guys since you'd rather bring up a dildo measuring contest for successes you wish you contributed to.
>Mfw this threads are so cancerous that a tripfaggot is the person with most common sense here.
Really? Devilman was Netflix bucks being spewed back then. Try harder.
>1 min posts apart
You ain't fooling anybody. Grab a mobile phone to up your game.
You are hopeless.
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Was about to post the image.
Nice one Sup Forumseditor.