Dragon Ball Super

Why do we praise Toriyama when Toei seems to do a better job than him?

> Filler for characters that Toriyama forgot/ignores
> Giving Vegeta a scene for his initial SS transformation
> Tried to fix Toriyama's "the legendary SS is born every x amount of years" by creating Broly
> Driving episode
> Giving Kid Future Trunks a better reason to transform into SS (Gohan dying vs he always had it)
> Otherworld Tournament (the only real full tournament in DBZ)
> Pikkon
> Having Vegetto fight Buuhan as Base before going SS
> Better Bardock story
> SS4 design over SS Re-color
> Giving Frost a "hero" backstory, instead of being just a less evil Freeza
> Making Hit, Black, Merged Zamasu more threatening, instead of being much weaker like their outline counterparts
> Giving Future Trunks and Future Mai more to do in the Trunks arc
> Baseball episode
> Giving Buu at least two fights in DBS
> Showing Freeza's ToP recruitment, and a spar between him and Goku
> Giving Gohan a scene where he re-unlocks Mystic/Ultimate
> Even though the anime team had plans to make Jiren talk, Toriyama said that he doesn't speak. So the anime team had to follow through with this.
> Anime team created Kale, and is responsible for Toriyama for creating Caulifla
> Freeza donating his energy to Goku (Planet Namek re-enactment) was thought of by the anime team
> Toriyama's Ribrianne was only fat. The anime team created the cute girl Brianne De Chateau to transform into her
> Kefla possibly being a Toei-creation given that Caulifla and Kale aren't as close in the manga, and that they both were only created because of Toei

Apologize

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Fuck off retard

Most of those are the false and or bad things.

>Most of those are the false
No they're not

Name them

By the way, the newer ones have been confirmed if that's what you're saying

Source: Herms twitter
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fuck off. I cant imagine someone has pathetic as yourself to be here waiting for a thread to reach the bump limit to immediately create another thread with the same picture. Stop making generals you retard

No one fucking cares about Kefla anymore. Fuck off.

>canon
Dragon Ball
Dragon Ball Z
'Bardock Father of Goku' special
'History of Trunks' special

>what-ifs / fan-fic trash
Dragon Ball Grand Tour
Dragon Ball Super
Movies and comics (but honourable mentions to Broly and Gogeta)

Anyone claiming otherwise is baiting and safely ignored.

Not that but Black wasn’t more threatening, only bullshit plot armouring. Frost also wasn’t a hero.

Based Gohanbro.

Toriyama's original draft had Black and Zamasu weak enough to be handled by SSB Goku and Vegeta easily

And anime Frost had the "fake" hero backstory.

>the state of dragon ball threads
Welp back to rèddît

Retard, whatever you like or don't like doesn't dictate canon.

Canon
> Jaco the Galactic Patrolman + DB Minus
> Dragon Ball
> Dragon Ball Z/Kai
> Yo! Son Goku Returns!
> Dragon Ball Super

Contains canon content, but mostly not canon
> Bardock the Father of Goku
> History of Trunks
> Dragon Ball Online (and Xenoverse to a much lesser extent)

Not canon
> DBZ Movies 1 -13
> Dragon Ball GT
> Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans
> Episode of Bardock
> Dragon Ball Heroes
> Dragon Ball FighterZ

Reminder

N-no... It's all over... Jiren has no chance against Furiza-Sama...

0/10 poor bait.

Your Bardock retcon and Spicper are not canon.

>Thread ruined at the OP
Great. Why can't you manga vs anime retards just fuck off? You're literally the only community on the Internet who does this. No one cares. Go away.

Because Toriyama did nothing wrong.

> Content by Toriyama isn't canon
Retard

>what I don't like didn't happen
kek

>toriyama didn't give a damn about a kekfuck or some bush league food.
truly based

God Tier photoshop skills

this, she needs to bare cabba child like the good little power waifu she is.

FUCK bills
FUCK Geran
FUCk freezer
FUCK kefla

>Anime vs Manga
>Kefla as the OP image just to rile up characterfags
Fuck off OP you worthless spic

Patiently waiting for the Gohan x Caulifla/Kefla porn.

What’s wrong with Kefla?

Thanks for clearing GAYhanfags shit, canonfag

>come up with a design to complement one of Toriyama's
>it's way better in every way

desperate samefaggotry

You got wrong user

Spics hate Kefla and love GT

She's everything gotenks is but more annoying and feminist. Couldn't be any more cliche and predictable if she didn't want to.

Shut the fuck up

>feminist
???

>deleting the (You) in ms paint

nice try cauli-cuck

One of the most used characters for shitposting along with Gohan

This is your winner for ToP, say something nice about her.

Also the Garlic Jr. saga was pretty kino and better than about 80% of the Buu saga. Imagine being such an autist that you judge the quality of something based on whether it's canon or not.

Freezer ain’t a girl

>She's everything gotenks

Except she's:
> less annoying (objectively compared to fucking Gotenks)
> actually was a threat
> resulted in Goku's best Kamehameha in DBS
> didn't achieve SS3

Nice damage control.

I'LL JOIN YOUR NEW GINYU FORCE FREEZA-SAMA, JUST PLEASE SPARE MY LIFE!! NOOOOOOOOOO!!

Absolute state of GAYhanfags.

>something nice
>her
youtube.com/watch?v=l-33SkD_tnw

> she's female so she's feminist
Retard

Also she might be silly, but she isn't annoying

>toei doing a better job
>pic is kefla
go back to posting lewds on some other boards please

>still samefagging

the state of cuckfla

If Cell ever got resurrected, how would it play out? Would he just walk round with a massive throbbing hateboner for Gohan all the time or could he be persuaded to (grudgingly) work alongside the Z fighters like Frieza?

Maybe he would even express disappointment at how Gohan is no longer able to give him the good fight that he once did, serving as a mouthpiece for the viewers.

> they both are against me
> must be a samefag!

Don't pretend to be Jobgeta's Dang, I smell GAYhan fags tears a mile away

>Cell is resurrected
>Gohan punches him 1 time in the stomach again

>Cell disappears to heal for another 20 years

Chadhan will make sure Cell remains irrelevant.

She's pretty cute too.

>feminist
She's not a feminist because she's not insecure due to her actually being powerful since she's a saiyan, not some weak ass human.

>jobhan
>defeating and old foe
Yeah cause that went so well last time, inb4 not canon.

he wouldn't even return as perfect cell since he died without #18 absorbed.

he'd either return as niggerlips cell or imperfect cell, which fucking ssj goten/trunks could kill at this point

She was more annoying when she blurted out "it's good to be a sayian" like a facist freakshow she is.

She still got dick slapped by a weaked sandbagging troll worthy goku.

I love her.

But after blowing himself up he was able to regenerate into Perfect Cell.

No one cares about your fan fiction, user.

She's retarded, delusional, and most of all a sore loser.

Bad taste user.

That Gohan looks like a girl.

>no argument
Looks you got btfo again as usual.

user take it easy. Remember the last thread.
Don't take it too hard on the Cuckflafags.

Gohan is already way too strong. Be gentle with her.

>last thread
You mean chodeforce cut and running as usual after getting btfo by the whole thread?

Fuck off

i like how these threads made me aware of the existence of those 2 supposed SSJ girls.
i never watched Super, i only come for the DBZ.

but these girls are pretty hot. whenever i fap to them, i imagine being gohan and fucking her (she entices and NTRs me) while struggling in my head whether i should stay loyal to Videl.

god-tier fetish

What's a matter, still assblasted after getting btfo?

this, it was like seeing a actually athletic supermodel being mind controled by a 8 year old boy.

I hate when hyper attractive and cool looking women have immature attitudes and zero sex appeal personality wise. Reason I hate Asuka Kazuma and Akane Owari.

What's up with Tien's face?

you guys are not repeating the last thread. PLEASE. Understand that NOBODY wins in these type of threads.

When has Gohan ever actually jobbed?

>Holds his own against Nappa, who is much more powerful than him at the time
>Holds his own against Recoome, who is much more powerful than him at the time
>Holds his own against Frieza, who is much more powerful than him at the time
>Saves Piccolo from Android 20
>Destroys all the Cell Jrs effortlessly
>Obviously kills Cell
>Outclasses Super Buu but toys with him too much

The only fight he's ever truly lost was against Dabura. His problem is that he dicks about too much when he has the upper hand in fights, but he's definitely not a jobber. Certainly not on the level of Vegeta or Future Trunks.

It's already settled that Godhan won.

So you're right, we should stop at this point. We're just beating a dead horse now (in this case a dead slut covered in Gohan's semen).

>strongest transformation ever
>fucking jobs

Reminder that all characterfags are complete autists

Goku isn't stronger than Beerus and there is literally no way you can prove that he is.

>Spoilers confirm Freeza saves U7 from erasure
>Ryusei Nakao holding up the V-sign after the final recording of Super
>The ending of the ToP will lead into another arc

It's happening lads. /OurEmperor/ is gonna do it.

Buutenks and RoF Frieza were jobs. That's about it.

You are correct in saying he's not a jobber. Nobody ever actually expects him to win.

>RoF
Not canon.

So only Buutenks then.

Caulifla a shit. Fucking bully

>D-Dragon Ball is d-dying forever after S-Super!
Where is that fucking autist now

>chodeforce still salty after last thread
Lmao.

>i-it's not canon b-because I don't like it

>Caulifla_opens_her_mouth_in_antipication_of_Gohan_cumming.jpg

Cell is something like neutral evil, he only wants to be stronger, I could see cell working with the Z fighters if that means fighting strong opponents

A jobber is someone who loses a fight with the purpose of showing how powerful the opponent is. Vegeta and Future Trunks define this.

Gohan lost to Super Buu because like against Cell he got too cocky when he was there for the taking. Also because Japanese fanboys wanted Goku San to be the hero again.

And yet most of the time he comes out on top.

Wait so is Kefla canon or not?

Gohan would fucking eat Cell alive at this very moment

Lawful Evil
Frieza

Neutral Evil
Cell

Chaotic Evil
Buu

What did Toriyama mean by this?

Keep feeding me your tears.

Its honestly just the diehard fanboys who can't admit that there precious Toriyama is a fucking hack who should be banned from the industry. These same losers would shit on Super if it didn't have their beloves slave master attached to it.

I like how in DBZ, where usually a villain is outclassed by the next villain, Cell remained a somewhat big threat.

Frieza was a joke, but Cell remained a big boy even when Buu came on the scene. Cell was SSJ2 tier.

>Caulifla_wants_Gohan_to_cum_on_her_face.png

Fat Buu would have destroyed Super Perfect Cell in one blow.

Don't worry, guys. Leave jobbing to me.

>he comes out on top.
In what fucking universe?
>gives a not-serious Nappa a good fight, has to be saved by Kinotun
>gets beaten to fuck by Vegeta
>gets repeatedly beaten to fuck by Frieza (no, the filler fight with Final Form Frieza isn't canon)
>actually stops being a faggot for a little while and becomes stronger than Cell
>nearly fucks that up too, gets his dad killed and has to be bailed out by Vegeta and his dead father begging him to stop being such a fucking baby and just end it already
>stops training like a worthless fuck, jobs to Dabura in a most embarrassing fashion
>jobs spectacularly to Buu
>gets handed an asspull powerup, comes back stronger than Buu, gets outsmarted by a literal retard who doesn't know what an hour is and jobs again
>fails to catch a fucking earring even though he can catch bullets
>gets absorbed like a worthless faggot
>jobs multiple times throughout the course of Super

...

Do you mean Majin Buu or the good Mr/Fat Buu?

>SPC's power level: 7.5 billion
>Majin Buu's power level: 25 billion
>Fat Buu's power level: 10 billion

You're right, but be more specific famalam.

>headcanon numbers
Get out, Paco.

>Gohanfags actually trying to convince themselves that he is not a jobber

pathetic

What am I looking at?

Where the fuck are you getting those numbers from? Some unofficial Mexican guidebook?