>Mr. Fukuhara first pointed out that the recent animation market has a lot of problems behind it looking strong like recording sales of 2.9 trillion yen. >1: Low wage employment problem of animators. Because young salary is around 6 to 70,000 yen a month, it is difficult to eat. >2: The structure that animation studio can not hold the right. Moreover, it can not be utilized even if it can possess the right. >3: Producer's talent shortage. Particularly due to lack of business sense of line producers who manage budget, the site will be in deficit form. >4: Distribution sales in China, which had become the biggest factor of recent revenue increase, is on a downward trend. There is a rumor that the national newspaper publication Public Hiroden Directorate strictens Japanese anime review and only checks are done three months before broadcasting and delivery and OK works are OK. If this is done, even if you plan to distribute regularly three months after the judgment is over, pirated editions are on the market around that time and nobody sees it. >5: The publisher, which should be in a position where the merit of animation is great, has not become a custom to establish a flexible contract concerning the original royalties. >6: The percentage of fee at overseas distribution is fixed while sales are low, and overseas distribution does not correspond to the current situation that accounts for most of income. >7: The high quality original is exhausted due to the increase in the total number of works, and the staff involved in the work is short.
Didn't he get banished to China along with Tatsuki? Just a few months ago he was doomposing on twitter how the Chinese animation industry was going to take over Japan's within 10 years. Kemono Friends S2 in China when?
Dylan Bailey
>Distribution sales in China, which had become the biggest factor of recent revenue increase, is on a downward trend. There is a rumor that the national newspaper publication Public Hiroden Directorate strictens Japanese anime review and only checks are done three months before broadcasting and delivery and OK works are OK. If this is done, even if you plan to distribute regularly three months after the judgment is over, pirated editions are on the market around that time and nobody sees it.
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I call bullshit. They made a lot of cash in 2017 so what is this downward trend bullshit?
Dominic Rodriguez
None of those problems plague Kyoani so it's fine.
Henry Brooks
News at 11. Follow kyoani's lead then, break free from the fucking production jews. News at 11. Chinks don't buy overpriced BD, news at 11. Only a handful of shows get good cash from gaijin, news at fucking 11. News at 11.
Every season is the same shit really. This one only has 3 or 4 shows actually making money while the rest is either breaking even or flopping.
>low wage animators >studio doesn't hold the righs >no sales on china >problems with publisher >problems with revenue >no high quality control So KyoAni is literally. And by literally I mean ＬＩＴＥＲＡＬＬＹ saving anime. Based.
>anime is dying You know what's dying? The island they call country. That Sun will sink before anime do.
Caleb Thomas
KEMONO FRIENDS WILL REMAIN DEAD
Jose Evans
For the first point, why don’t they move the studios to more rural areas where cost of living is lower? There’s not a big reason anime studios have to be in the middle of the city.
For point 6, if you want to increase foreign revenue you need to focus on getting merchandise to the foreign markets. Fans won’t pay to watch your show, but they will buy expensive waifu figurines. This won’t work in China though, they’ll pirate the figurines too.
Dominic Cox
Anime killed KemonoFriends now is turn for KemonoFriends to kill anime
Oliver Howard
>Because young salary is around 6 to 70,000 yen a month For those unaware this is basically translated to 564 dollars to 657 dollars a month. A MONTH.
Gabriel James
>says anime is dying Quote the part where he says that.
William Nguyen
I live in a third world shithole and that's an ok salary for Jrs, livable wage if you're willing to rent some trash apartment, but we usually live with our parents until we can afford something better.
Evan Reed
Is netflix will save them?
Daniel Robinson
Netflix is like 20 billion in debt they can't even save themselves
Jack Myers
yeah but think about it. You can compare that to what young adults can make in what you admit is a third world country. These are somewhat trained adult doing it for a major industry for a major country.
Daniel Howard
Surely they'll run out of manga/LN/whatever by the next decade, right? At the pace they're churning out each season.
They gotta slow the fuck down. Reorganize. Anime is suffering because of poor business model, sure, but it will never truly die. It'll return from the brink of death with a new direction, and hopefully won't fall prey to the same mistakes that's currently weighing it down.
Sebastian Perry
Would you like to show us their balance sheet that proves that you're full of shit?
Hunter Taylor
>For the first point, why don’t they move the studios to more rural areas where cost of living is lower? There’s not a big reason anime studios have to be in the middle of the city.
Because the Japanese entertainment industry, including all the recording studios and most of the producers, directors, writers, voice actors, and musicians, is mostly based in Tokyo. Same reason why most workers in the American movie industry, from Ryan Gosling to a junior dolly grip or gaffer, live in Los Angeles.
Grayson Moore
they have no savings. What is this magic in anime that tricks so many young talent into such terrible job prospects.
Ryder Wood
Because actual animators with experience get paid more and their career won't end there. And they love anime.
Josiah Diaz
Demand. Companies need their worker ants and Japanese need money.
Dylan Edwards
3rd worlders often forget that the cost of living is much higher in 1st world countries. Maybe you can live comfortably with $600 a month, but in Japan you can't.
Liam Cooper
Anime's been dying since Cowboy Bebop went off the air. The only way to "save" it now is to just pull to damn plug.
Jonathan Gutierrez
Nigga you can literally google them being in debt. Fuck off.
Kevin Sanders
Which is why their balance sheet does not show them being "20 billion in debt", right? How old are you?
Juan Flores
Apparently, Tatsuki's tweet caused Kadokawa so much trouble and killed the franchise that they wanted. Also slashed as much as 8% of Nico's paid users as a backlash from the fans
As for them...well, the chart speaks for themselves
It's faked of course, they are only being kept alive because of the gov backing them in secret in exchange for info just like Sup Forums, 2ch and any big site like these.
Andrew Reed
Except it does show them being in debt. Their growth has been pretty minor the past 2yrs and will eventually trend down as more producers and directors leave them along with networks making their own streaming services. Everything is covered with prospective growth and profits which will eventually be their downfall.
Carter Lopez
Please provide us with the balance sheet that shows that Netflix is "20 billion in debt".
Levi Martin
>anime is dying About fucking time.
Evan Morris
Why are you being such a netflix shill?
Xavier Moore
So you went from lies to memes, what a pointless discussion. Their balance sheet is openly available, what's the point of posting bullshit when everyone here is two clicks away from the truth?
Jace Howard
>So KyoAni is literally. And by literally I mean ＬＩＴＥＲＡＬＬＹ saving anime. Based.
It will one giant structural overhaul to get other studios to follow KyoAni's model
Noah Harris
Last month I said the same about twitch to my nephew. Today Ninja got 100k people on a Monday morning stream
Bentley Carter
Viewbots?
Joshua Jenkins
more like children migrating from dumb youtubers to twitch, the guy is constantly putting this numbers of viewership
Luis Baker
from dumb youtubers to dumb streamers*
Evan Martinez
The chinks will take over
Benjamin Barnes
Doesn't everyone say anime is dying all the time?
Nathan Walker
The only way to save it is to make more harem anime. Trust me on this. We need more harems.
Good, maybe localizing manga will get a higher priority if anime dies.
William Campbell
Harem never sells, except Bakemonogatari, but it sold for many other reasons than a guy having plenty of girls wanting his dick.
Jaxson Kelly
In a first world country that's poverty tier income. Like, a homeless dude can potentially make that much in a month by begging in an area with a decent amount of foot traffic. That's not even enough to cover most monthly apartment rents in a big city like tokyo unless you live in a really really REALLY shitty area.
John Garcia
>3rd worlders often forget that the cost of living is much higher in 1st world countries. no it isn't. Not even close. Why do you think that Mex people desperately cross those borders even at the expense of their own lives?
You can live comfortably in USA with a shitty job at a fast food. But in 3rd world countries the pay is bad, everything is expensive as fuck and the taxes are criminally high, like nearly 30% high while in USA there isn't a single state with taxes higher than 13%. Not to mention that the infrastructure of everything that isn't a tourist site in in terrible shape or how incredibly corrupt the governments are... 3rd world countries will be 3rd worlds forever.
Carter Harris
kys Kyonigger
Levi Ramirez
>nearly every single thing in the post is wrong Your intelligence is telling of your third world origin
Anthony Jenkins
Who cares, none of it does apply to one studio that matters - KyoAni
David Gomez
We have something exactly like that in the west, the game industry pay way less to programmers than any normal tech business and they still get many people wanting to work there.
Evan Roberts
>Because young salary is around 6 to 70,000 yen a month holy shit
Adrian Phillips
>Anime is dying Haven't they been saying that for the last decade or so?
Eli Sullivan
Except western companies like Amazon and Netflix are starting to directly fund high quality original series.
Elijah Hernandez
He is Naruto/Bleach/DeathNote fag. Disregard him. He complains about things completley unrelated to most anime studios and their shows.
Mason Cox
Making shitposting shows with Otaking and finishing his kickstarter Blossom movie
Brayden Young
name one
Noah Thompson
He talks about BD distribution, which is still very limited in china and done through likes of JY Animation. Forgetting most of profits come from streaming licensing.
Brayden Lee
Anime has been dead for 15 years.
Michael Martinez
The industry's doing well in the sense that it's bringing in plenty of money, even if they're not getting quite as much from overseas as they'd like - point 7 points to a position about as far from "dying" as you can get. Problem is the money isn't going to animators, but to suits; Japan needs strong unions desu.
Elijah White
Well yeah, but we aren't talking about a flipping burger job here, this is something that requires skill and takes a lot of time and hard work. They might as well work for free with that shitty wage.
Juan Edwards
>why don’t they move the studios to more rural areas where cost of living is lower? They do. At least starting to open substudios in rural areas. Even Trigger has one.
But it could. Just put a self-insert MC but with a quirk that makes him different from the other beta MCs who never hook up with their haremettes and then add the other girls lust for his dick for a legit reason.
Call me when a real big names, influential people of anime industry say "anime is dying". So basically he's fucking nobody and people just love to make a big deal any time anyone complains, as always.
China can't save anything, they're desperate for good shows too and they're many years behind in animation. Which is why VEG is taking the country by storm.
Bentley Sanchez
>Because young salary is around 6 to 70,000 yen a mont I literally make more moving boxes in a warehouse
Daniel Johnson
Then most studios will go bankrup and close down, because not other studios are as capable/lucky as KyoAni. In current model they have sustained low risk means of vegetating on low level doign paid trash work. In KyoAni model they will have to heavily invest and risk and high chance being going bankrupt.
See Trigger. It wants to be KyoAni and tried to do own thing with LWA, but in the end is still resorted to being Aniplex slave now. The only other studio remotely approaching KyoAni is PA works, since they are as well in rural area and independant - but they can't afford to live by owned works/invest heavily in their projects: they are proped both by goverment and inviting investment from everywhere, thus limiting own profits and do paid adaptations.
Andrew Mitchell
>Anime is dying >what is kyoani, ufo, and trigger doing
>animation costs high >not hire lower cost workers who do good work in china/korea
>"anime is dying" >"so it's not my fault i fail" And that's the core of the issue.
The only thing USA is best at is brainwashing its zombie citizens.
Adrian Diaz
Does Miyazaki count?
Matthew Torres
Cuz Japs are the worst and the most evil race of the world.they had the tradition of killing some of newborn babies(Mabiki)and they pooped on the Designated shitting street before Meiji.and they invaded US without reason despite their Shitty technology.now,their scandal about the Moritomo school has been revealed.despite they being mad at sxx,they have the smallest dick and they banned teenagers from wearing bikini after 2018 for the excuse of Tokyo olympic and Preventing Child Porn.(Teens under 19 cannot buy bikini in Japan)Japs are worse than Pajeets.
Isaiah Myers
>Your Name highest grossing sales in China >bans AoT
China actually is the reason why anime is doomed
Landon Brown
>they banned teenagers from wearing bikini after 2018 for the excuse of Tokyo olympic and Preventing Child Porn.(Teens under 19 cannot buy bikini in Japan)
> Because young salary is around 6 to 70,000 yen a month That's a huge money. It's hard to get more then 200$ a month in my country.
Elijah Ross
>Producer Fukuhara of Yao Yoroz Literally who
Easton Cruz
>>what is kyoani, ufo, and trigger doin Why do you group great studio with two trash studios?
Trigger is Aniplex slave and nothing it did was success to even feed themselves properly. Ufotable is just doing Fateshit and is pretty much the "video game animationi sequences" studio.
>not hire lower cost workers who do good work in china/korea Are you new? Of course majority of shit studios does it since decades. Fucking Antarctica this season has whole episodes outsourced to Korea (ironically they are better than Deadhouse own ones). Even KyoAni has a korean substudio it owns, even it is barely used now. Watch titles of EVERY SINGLE anime this season in the ED.
Tyler Morales
Tokyo is one of the most expensive cities in the world
Bentley Bell
Looks like they have good taste.
yaraon-blog.com/archives/123091 >Chinese animator "It still takes time to catch up with Japan" "China's animation industry respects most of Kyo's animations"
Tyler Butler
Yeah, I understand that the market is one big gamble, but it seems like most of their problems they could fix themselves.
Anthony Moore
Absolutely no way will I be watching anime that China produces
Landon Sullivan
What's the matter user, don't you want Violet clones?
Benjamin Mitchell
Stop paying animators less than burger flippers maybe
Parker Peterson
Kyoani also had an advantage with leftover money from Haruhi and Lucky Star (even if Kadokawa had claimed much of it).
Brandon Sanchez
>lucky star I am not sure how much profits they got from Haruhi, but they got shit from Lucky Star. They simply got paid by Kadokawa for animating it, but got nothing from its popularity and sales. It is the whole reason they made switch to model they have now.
Nicholas Nelson
To any CHICOMs in the thread: No I won't be watching your knockoff product, Mandarin sucks. Don't kid yourselves.
Gavin Morgan
I forget is this the 14th or 15th time anime is dying?
Yamakan will change all this with cryptocurrency. Imagine, funding a studio dirctly, outside the oligarchic control of the elite (Kadokawa, etc) Anime will finally get better standards, which will lead to better animation. Yamakan also proposed his coin for unionization purposes.
tl;dr /biz/ is here to save anime. Buy Yamakan's coin.
