Fuck this shit

Am I asking for too much when I only want a proper HGW with no manjew or meta bullshit?
Just a murder-death-kill battle of seven glorious heroes.

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Wait for Strange Fakes made by Bones

>Wait for SF

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You only have Strange/Fake, but it will take years to finish.

Who is the man on the left?

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Extra isn't proper?

Unironically it is first Fate.
>inb4 muh Gil
Without him Caster would win and sissify most males.

Extra is about as close as we will ever get
I mean there's Twice fucking shit up but it's after you won the whole war so it doesn't really count

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Rewatch Fate Zero, it doesn't get better until Strange Fake in 2041

What is "meta bullshit"?
Either way, yes you're asking for something stupid. It would be incredibly short and straightforward.

>128 masters
>digital world
>NPCs having consciousness
Nope

Extra is fucking retarded. The game is even worse than the anime.

Fate is unironically the worst fate route

Well, maybe he means that there are just 7 masters with servants fighting for the untainted Holy Grail. Without any asspulls like Gil, manjew, digital ghost, wormgrail, apocrypha's Shirou.

I dunno why Fate/Zero is not an option.

>The best thing in Fate isn't by Nasu
really makes you think

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>128 masters
Its still fair and proper battles between masters and servants.
>digital world
All things considered this trivial
>NPCs having consciousness
They are still ai.

For reasons you're put in charge of your own Fate setting with Holy Grail War, what Servants do you pick to feature in it.

Digital world ruins it for me, maybe it doesn't for you but it's so dumb that i can't take it seriously.

Thats where youre wrong kiddo, Fate ending was the most hard hitting

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Anyone suggesting Strange Fake is ridiculous.
Ayaka has 5 command spells and a servant who is many servants. She doesn't want to win.
One Master is a vampire. He doesn't want to win either anymore. One Master is enough of a legend to summon themself. Its goals are ambiguous and seems to keep the servants from killing each other at every turn.
One servant has 13 noble phantasms. One servant has 18. One manufactures artificial Noble Phantasms continuously. Then there's still Gilgamesh and Enkidu.
There is 2 of each class minus Saber and Lancer.
The decayed remnant of a goddess is personally interfering with the war.
There is an extra class, Watcher. Its Master doesn't want to win either.

Not really tho
make 7 powerful servants and make the masters interesting and relevant to the war outcome.

>Just a murder-death-kill battle of seven glorious heroes

There are other anime that fit that role.

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Extra (the game, can't comment on the anime) isn't a proper battle royale, due to the tournament format. IIRC, it's only possible to engage other masters/servants in the dungeon and dueling areas, and there's a separate 'instance' of the dungeon for each pair of masters going against each other each week, so you can't just snipe masters you're not scheduled to fight.

Here you go, m8. No need to thank me.

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Fate route fights are boring as fuck.

Manjew already tainted the grail

>Zero
>best anything

The only good parts of Zero were the concepts that Nasu set up in FSN.

SF is still miles ahead of apoc and extra tho. Only HF bests it

It would be incredibly formulaic and predictable.

I think fate/zero is as close as you get to a propper HGW.

Apocrypha had potential but who the fuck tought it was a good idea to make the fucboi the main character? Vlad's two-episodes pseudo arc about how much he hates his vampire legend was more interesting than everything Sig.

He didn't ask for a good Fate story, he asked for a Fate story without twists on the formula or revelations on the setting.

Yes, because at that point it's just boring shonen.

You don't read Fate for the fights. Also, Shirou, Rin, and Saber VS. Berserker was cool. So was Saber VS. Rider on the skyscraper.

>isn't a proper battle royale, due to the tournament format.
HGW isn't battle royale too
> it's only possible to engage other masters/servants in the dungeon and dueling areas, and there's a separate 'instance' of the dungeon for each pair of masters going against each other each week, so you can't just snipe masters you're not scheduled to fight.
Its all possible and happened in game.
Its just mooncell has more power to enforce rules than church overseer in fsn/zero.

>Also, Shirou, Rin, and Saber VS. Berserker was cool
Berserker ending is lame in every route but this one without a doubt the worst.
I know i don't read Fate for the fights, but i think this thread was about that, i'm not saying Fate route is bad.

I've watched Apocrypha, Stay Night UBW, and just finished Zero. What should I watch next?

>he asked for a Fate story without twists on the formula or revelations on the setting.
Why must people ask for garbage

At least Herc had an actual kill count in Fate, it UBW it's just embarrassing.

>Its all possible and happened in game.
Every time, they clash with you for 3 turns and you hold them off. The only one that managed to take your servant out in that time is Li Shuwen and his lethal touch.

Name a single battle royale that got played straight up.
Even Battle Royale itself fell prey to fuckery as the protagonist teamed together to scape. A straight up Battle Royale would be just boring.

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Because they didn't watch Highlander and don't realise that the whole HGW thing wasn't a fresh idea even circa Prototype.

I just hate the "the damage was so high he died many lives in one hit" thing.

>Name a single battle royale that got played straight up.

It's more interesting than "lol Shadow". Gil VS Berserker was good too. But yeah, it would be nice to see Herc actually defeat some servants.

Did you just skip all text in game or something?
Archer tried to kill mc outside arena. Julius killed a lot of masters outside. Clown/priest were ready to fight outside arena too. Only safe place were "my room"

Juni Taisen

Loli shadow?

It's alright been said but Highlander. When they said there can only be one, they fucking meant it.

already*

Remove the i win button guy in golden armor and Zero would be proper HGW.

Other than the fact that the Grail was already tainted.

I should have wrote Battle Royal and not HGW, yeah.

If you're a brainlet or a waifufag, sure

>and the second best thing is made by him and isn't a fucking battle royale
Read HF. Fate and UBW, you can throw them to the garbage but read HF. It's probably the best thing he's done.

That's pretty much the most broken war so far.
>false war and true war at the same time
>servants like Pale Rider, formless Jack the Ripper
>Heracles corrupted with Grail mud to become part Avenger
>Babylonian Godess Ishtar possessing an homunculus and summoning Gulganna
>Prelati summoning herself as her servant (though it's a boy)
>Dead Apostle involved, wants to awaken ORT
>Kischur involved, skipped timelines to find Ayaka
>Magician army using NPs made by Dumas
>news report Richard fucking shit up
>Watcher summoned instead of Lancer, his master will become True Lancer (the master being Maiya's son)
>a wolf is a master
And it's just starting.

That sounds so fucking autistic and complicated

It's fun, also Gilgamesh is the protagonists and he meets with his only friend as an opponent. He fights at full strength in the first volume.

It sounds retarded when you write it that way, but then again so does a series about magical secret wars in Japan where they summon historical figures like female King Arthur that use nuke-swords. Narita is just using a lot of previous concepts at the same time.

Yes.

This anime was incredibly shit, and was just "whole episodes of flashbacks for characters that die before actually doing anything", the worst part is that they spent two episodes on the completely useless brothers and nothing on the main antagonist rabbit.
It would have been way more interesting as a visual novel with lots of bad ends, playing the Rat trying to survive the war and having multiple routes where you ally with each warriors.

So, the Nasuverse at its finest then

>Berserker vs. EMIYA
>Saber actually fighting Gil
>Shirou killing Kirei and surviving Manjew
>Lancer vs. Gil
>The speech under the Church
Hating Fate route is the surest sign of a pleb

And waddya know it was shit

Just read original april fools to get overview
www.mediafire.com/view/97ytlwcgbvi9mff/
If reading that doesn't hype you up for greatest Fate work nothing will

>Berserker vs. EMIYA
An off-screen fight.
>Saber actually fighting Gil
A really underwhelming fight, barely any action described.
>Shirou killing Kirei and surviving Manjew
It was cool, but Shirou was shitty in Fate, their fight in HF surpasses it in every way.
>Lancer vs. Gil
Another off-screen fight.
>The speech under the Church
Yeah, that was good.

I dont want to watch fgo, apocrypha or encore. I want HF so I can be done witht he fate franchise.

I wish F/SF got a better artist. The current one is fine, but his art isn't very neat. It works a lot better in the manga than in the volume illustrations.

>Berserker vs. EMIYA
Off screen
>Saber actually fighting Gil
He wipes the floor with her until the Avalon asspull.
>Shirou killing Kirei and and surviving Manjew
Boring. The almost one-sided beatdown in HF was more fun because it carried a very strong tragic element due to Shirou's body, but also had more weight to ot because of the fact that they are alike but different at the same time.
>Lancer vs. Gil
Off screen. Again.
>the speech under the church
I don't even remember it. Must have been pretty memorable.

I ultimately enjoyed Juni Taisen, but only after I realized it was really a series of character studies that uses the pretense of a battle royale to tie them together.
As an actual battle royale, is right; it's kinda boring because the two/three characters with super useful powers, and the will to use them, absolutely stomp.

>Saber actually fighting Gil

Never happened.

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>Bones
where is this meme from

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And how would a proper HGW work out?
>Broken servant goes all out
>Defeats everyone in two nights thanks to noble phantasm spam
>Master makes servant himself because of muh root, the end

Lore Basakalot is a hardcounter to Gilgamesh soooo....

kill himself*

>his
Her*

With so many versions of the HGW out there it would be cool to have a proper Fate Shonen anime. Let Servants be cool and glorious for fucks sake. Enough with the tragic twist boner.

LN or manga or both for SF?

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>this is what Jetfags actually believe

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>gets his ass saved by Tokiomi calling Gil off
>"hardcounter"

>Chuuni king
I mean, it's not wrong.

T. Einsberns

well, at the end of the day Apo is like that

>This is what Gilfags believe in

Yes you are asking for too much shit because you completely missed the point of Fate/stay night you secondary faggot.

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Jetfags proving they're secondaries once again.

Pic related is OP

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Based Berserk putting goldie in his place

Said point made F/SN shit anyways so I'm cool with them trying something fresh. I'm sick of edgy tragic twists.