Why do people try to claim that the author of Made in Abyss isn't using his characters to explore his fetishes?

Why do people try to claim that the author of Made in Abyss isn't using his characters to explore his fetishes?

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So what if he does?

No one does. But why do you care?

Most fans seem to deny it. And that thinking otherwise means that your mind is in the gutter.

>Most fans seem to deny it.
[citation needed]

Literally nobody says this, read the manga, it's even more clear there.

Look up any number of reviews praising its charm.

>Throw your children into the abyss

Maybe you should ask the specific people making those claims in their reviews rather than an anonymous image board where no one says it.

Who cares?

get out

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>Reading reviews
Your fault for reading trash written by insecure social rejects.

Reviewers trying to excuse and downplay things is anime so that normies wouldn't call them creeps or make fun of them is nothing new.
Stop being gay and trying to justify your hobby to people so you can fit it with the rest of society.

>Your fault for reading trash written by insecure social rejects.

Well, he probably read this, so...

I don't think anyone's claiming otherwise. They just ignore it and focus on the more interesting stuff.

Japan has always had this weird relationship with sexuality where it is taken less seriously than in the western countries. I would actually love to hear the proper opinion of a japanese person on this topic, and if they find things like these tasteless.

Why are people making such a outcry about this now? These kind of things have been a part of Japanese anime and manga ages now. Why MIA is so different?

But yeah, we're still talking about DRAWN & IMAGINARY medium. In my opinion people are free to draw whatever the fuck they want.

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Yes and?

I'd insert my fetishes as much as possible if I had my own manga, too.

Who cares
it's not actually jarring

its gonna be very similar to how it is in the west. some people like us have nothing against it or even like it and some people will think of it as degenerate

>Why do people try to claim that the author of Made in Abyss isn't using his characters to explore his fetishes?
Because they're embarrassed to be associated with something that explores topics normally considered taboo, but they're too stupid to mount a meaningful defense, so they just deny and make up excuses for whatever franchise they're defending. Break the cycle. Learn to separate the art from the autist.

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Author has been dead for almost a century. You can't separate the author from his creation, brainlet?

what?

because fans are bunch of pedo in denial

They're also probably the sort that insists art is Serious and Meaningful. If the deep meaning is "pissing lolis sure are hot" then that ought to make the work trash.

The Death of the Author has been greatly exaggerated. It's also retarded.

I'm surprised that something this lewd would have gotten picked up by Netflix. I honestly don't know how I should feel about countless Westerners watching straight loli fap fuel on a mainstream source.

It's really only lewd if you think of it as lewd

I'm not sure if the narrative theme behind MiA is exclusively "pissing lolis," because of the whole hunting for the missing mother plotline, but if when the manga finishes it turns out you're right about the meaning, then yeah I would agree that the work is trash.

I mean that the people trying to do Serious Analysis of Serious Themes aren't likely to accept that a guy can throw his fetishes into a story about venturing into the unknown without it being a detriment to everything else.

What does this add to the story and characters as a whole?

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It obviously has serious far-reaching themes but you can't deny the lewd loli scenes aren't deliberate. It just feels weird for it to be on a normie medium.

not much since someone removed the text

everyone is mostly ok with it in most other anime/manga, jojo and berserk spring to mind, if the author isnt degenerate or self interesting for fetish, chances are its dull

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For sure. Anyone bothering to do a serious literary analysis of the story would have no choice but to acknowledge that the pissing lolis don't really add much to the overarching story besides reminding us that people have to find places to poop sometimes when they're away from civilization, which I suppose is something, but I agree that in general people including their fetishes in their stories tends to detract from the work as a whole.

Also I appreciate your ironic capitalization.

It can just be passed off as very crude humor to normies. Not everyone frequents anonymous Turkmenistani paper mache forums

To be fair, if I was writing a review, I would also down play the fetishist elements so that more people would be willing to give this story a try.

Tsukushi's magical realm isn't even all that bad.

>when somebody calls nanachi a "she"

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Berserk have always looked to me like a NTR/rape fest...

have you considered that you're the degenerate that projects his fetishes everywhere
take pic related for example, do you think is there anything but innocence in there?

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Some people are just in denial.

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>Most fans seem to deny it.
Where exactly? Clearly you're not talking about Sup Forums because very few anons would actually deny it.

I showed my 13 year old cousin the arm cutting scene and the creation of Mitty just to see how she’d react.
Only a little horrified.

Becuase normalfags who want to make their love for anime public don't want to admit that they watch an anime that features loli and shota fanservce, so they try to downplay it with excuses like "it just shows the human body like it is! pee is completly natural, I wish all anime had characters pissing! for realism!

The rape in Berserk sure as hell isn't played up for laughs.

fuck you faggot

Why do normalfaggots complain about everything that is not 100% sanitized and pure?
>muh franxx has fan-service
>hurr MiA has some weird stuff in it

>Be woman
>Have nephew who's a bit strange
>Reluctantly leave your thirteen year old girl in his custody
>The guy shows her naked animated children getting their limbs amputated.
Ever wonder why you're so autistic user?

I can't speak for anyone else, but it only affects my enjoyment or appreciation once it becomes gratuitous. I might roll my eyes at the occasional unnecessary panty shot, but when you have entire episodes dedicated to drawing girls in skin-tight suits in sexual positions, you've clearly crossed a line that didn't need to be crossed.

Why everyone is so mad about MiA, but HxH where one the characters literally showed his Rod to 12 years old was okay?

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What's she doing?

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There it was played for laughs and its just one character, they don't collectively live in the pedo dimension.

Because you don't write a manga to satisfy yourself. You're the one "exploring his fetishes" when you're reading it. It's you. He just knows his audience.
Trying to blame anything on the author is pathetic. It's like asking "why do pornstars like being fucked by big cocks on camera?". They're not doing it because they like it. They're doing it because you like it.

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shitting

you are right OP, after doing some searching with the help of others anons, i made this list to show the major fetish of Tsukishi

>loli
>shota
>piss
>navel penetration
>tummy
>crossdressing
>monster gangbang
>tentacle rape
>furry
>light scat
>vomit
>guro
>smelling
>bondage
>transformation
>food porn
>anal
>ss
>femdom
>oppai loli

inflation too maybe

Because they are normies.

Of course he is using this Manga for his own fetishes.
I would give my left hand to get into Tsukushi's private drawing stash though. He must have hundreds or thousands of lewd Reg or Nanachi drawings.

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Excellent image.

Should I?

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Ohhhh
Now I understand why one of my friends who found out I am watching MiA recommended me HxH.

Eew..

>18 dollars
Just use that $1 mousepad site that's been floating around for forever

Actually pretty accurate.

I would add granny porn and bestiality (because original Reg was a dog, not a "Furry") to it.

Also Bears (Habolg).

It was picked by Amazon AFAIK. Something lewd they picked, tho, is Big Mouth.

Do it. Well worth.

I got a husbando pillow myself.

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the author is clearly a pedo who wants to chop children up and fuck their remains and should probably be thrown feet first into a blast furnace.

I sleep on Reg every night now. Love it. One user said to pierce his navel some days ago, but I couldn't. Reg is just too pure.

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>HxH
>tolerable with homolust

That's what a hxhfags wants to believe

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you've disappointed me user

He is. There's nothing wrong with that. I share many of his fetishes and I find his work arousing and that's a good thing.

>Your fault for reading trash written by insecure social rejects.
Really made me think

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I am sorry user, I truly am ;__;
(If my pillow would heal like Reg, I probably would have done it)

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Let's settle this once and for all. Who would you lewd?

strawpoll.me/15292593

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Redo this. Allow multiple choices.

Pick the best one user

I can not decide between Reg and (human) Nanachi. So I can pick nobody. OK, I|ve picked somebody else I did not mean. Are you happy now?

this isn't how you clickbait people into reading your reviews, gotta make them stand out more.

Most people are pedophiles, but most people don’t want to admit it.

Voted for wrong person with my phone as well. Just allow multiple votes.

I ch-chose Ozen! *cough* Ozen is t-the best!

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Nobody ever brings up the part where they eat fish guts that look exactly like used condoms.

Another two fake votes from My tablet and via my vserver.

Let's see if every VPN account I have let's me vote for potato.

No one. But if I had to chose my favorite character, then, Regu.

I-I think that's ONLY you user...

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I don’t think he wants to chop children up. I think he loves children, and by chopping them up he’s emphasizing that their bodies are physical objects subject to the laws of reality like anything else, which makes them seem more real and therefore more sexy. It’s the same as Riko having to poop all the time. Instead of children being mystical unobtainable wonders they’re touchable people made out of flesh, and being touchable is sexy.

Lol, I can vote from each country of my VPN. I will upvote Potato.

I don't have a problem with people expressing whatever the hell they want to in art, but honestly, the pedo shit in MiA is the one reason I'll probably never watch it. Scenes like those in the OP very clearly evoke the image unaware reddit-types who smell like piss and wear underboob sweat-stained anime shirts chuckling "lol look at the old man staring at boi dick I love otaku animes xD". It's too memey for my tastes.

in literally every language male pronouns are considered default when you don't know what gender something is, YOU are the faggot

Lol, I did not expect it to work, but have fun with your Riko votes.

Strawpoll is a joke.

Actually in English the writer/speaker supposed to use their own gender.

Pic related. And this was only from my phone. If I were at my PC I could have written a quick python script to vote for Potato and it would have been a lot faster. Don't rely on strawpoll.

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I want to sniff Nanachi's abyss

A lot of asexuals, prosthelytizing faggots, trap posters, fujoshit, and "those types" flooded into animeland and started waving their dicks around. It's like furries all over again, if you build it they'll come (and ruin it).

>Why MIA is so different?
Because it's a critical success that is being distributed by Amazon.

Hell, if Kodomo no Jikan came out today, people would have a lot more to say about it.

imagine people find out about berserk. That would be opening the pandoras box

Plenty of people know about Berserk. But the violence and sexual content is conveyed with a completely different style and tone.

Well, except that scene with Shierke trying to give Casca a bath. The context of which is still more natural then Made in Abyss's fanservice, but there's no denying that Miura plays his share of Idol Master too...

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Plenty of manga readers know about it yeah. But regular people don`t know about it. A thread about abys pops up quite often nowadays because a newguy discovered it and decided to make a thread about it. Imagine those people knowing about berserk, we would see 20 threads about berserk every day about how vulgar it is. Abyss is nothing compared to berserk when we talk about violence and sexualization.