Buy a new game

>Buy a new game
>Puts game in console
>It just starts
You can experience this again if NX uses carts
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Why would they do that?

no load times or something, thats what I remember reading somewhere

I don't believe it.

NX will use the same modified SD cards the 3DS uses.

3DS uses carts and there's plenty of load times
Non-volatile memory transfer is relatively slow these days compared to optical, or rather, it's not as much faster as it used to be

Blu-ray is typically 25-50MB/s
ROMs are 40-80MB/s
Not a big deal

I love physical media. And as ridiculous as it seems, would happily welcome something similar to 3DS carts but 3x the size. Say slightly larger than a Gameboy cart. It would just feel so great to hold. And it makes for great collections. Thrown in a side label similar to SNES carts and we are set.

I hope they cost $90 too.

If the NX really is a portable-console hybrid like people are speculating, then I can see a return to carts.

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It will be download only games.

Because retro game collecting is huge right now. People are collecting carts for nostalgia. nintendo is smart enough to realize people will buy the NX just for HURRR CARTS, just so they can add it to their stacks.

Oh boy I can't wait to pay $80+ for the game now.

Are carts cheaper to produce than discs?

I don't see why this is such a huge hassle that people treat like a serious problem with modern gaming

Like on my PS4 I just hit the PS button on the controller, choose my profile, and 99 times out of a hundred hit the x button the start the first game on the list since that is what I plan to play. takes maybe thirty seconds at worst.

Probably not, but in this day and age maybe. Just because carts are more expensive doesn't mean they can't turn a profit.

If they were Final Fantasy 7 would have been on the N64.

>buying games

no, but I doubt they are as expensive as they were in the past, at least, looking at the prices of the SD cards, and memory stopped being a problem.

I see

I thought it was on PS1 because it wouldn't fit on a cart.

If they did the whole cart thing nostalgia fags will be all over it. It's the perfect marketing scheme as people go nuts over physical media.

Hell I sold a loose copy of earthbound foe 500 at Craigslist today.

digital games are even more convenient than carts

you don't have to stick them in

But in return, you lose the ability to sell them off in the future.

im ok with this, really.
people would get used to it, big deal.

My grandmother still has her SNES and three games for it.
There's something about sticking a cart in a console that just feels right.

There's something about sticking my dick in ur mum that just feels right.

Because 3DS uses cheap flash memory.

BDs are 9MB/s-24MB/s, for a reason you install the games instead playing them from the disc.

I would imagine.

if they have day one patches for non-rewritable media x why wouldn't they for non-rewritable media y

oh wait you're delusional

That wasn't his mom. It was me you faggot.

Why not just add SSD as a storage option?
A good cheap 240GB SSD this days is $50.

>Hell I sold a loose copy of earthbound foe 500 at Craigslist today.

What a fucking retard

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>240GB

The PS4 came with 500GB and we all ran out of fucking room 5 months after it came out, and thats even after owning a PHYSICAL copies of all our games.

What's not to believe? If they use flash memory cartridges it will be instant. Plus flash is cheap as hell now and can hold more than a disc.

as long as action pro replay can release and come with a region unlock I am game for what ever cart they want to make.

>What's not to believe?
That carts remove loading times. I have not seen evidence of this so naturally I am skeptical.

Why don't we go back to carts? You can get a 32 gig flash drive for 10 bucks, or a 64 gig flash drive for 15 bucks. Put a game on it. It'll run better and take up less room than dvd/blu ray. Plus it'll be cheaper.

That would be wonderful. Fuck Nintendo's region locking bullshit

>240 GB

so we can run out of space in a couple of months?

M8 my computer runs on flash memory and boots in 2 seconds. It is a fact that write-up speed is faster on cartridges. I mean, think about it man, just to get the data off a disc you need to spin it fast as fuck, and there is an upper limit to how fast you can spin a disc without trashing the system. Cartridges don't have that limit.

I don't want a game that will have zero updates ever

I want post-release support in my games, especially in a world where devs are too lazy to fully bug test their games.

Hello?

Or you print it on a Blu ray which costs literally a couple of cents. Bunch of underage retards that never owned any cartridge based consoles itt

It's not about secondary playing. It's about having to install the game before you can play it the first time you put in the disc

HOARDERS

>it will be cheaper to manufacture $10 worth of flash memory than the $0.02 it costs to manufacture a dual-layer Blu-ray

I actually firmly fucking believe Nintendo will return to cartridges for the NX and they'll do the following with them:

-Heavily advertise the "increased performance": 60fps, no loading times (they'll still be loading times obvs), increased content, etc.. Whatever technical stuff they'll half-truth tell the general audience.

-They'll make them something you WANT to have and to COLLECT: They'll LOOK GOOD. They'll be akin to N64 Cartridges where most will have cartridge art, but others will have physical customizations/alternate colours, etc.. Special editions and what not.

-3rd and 2nd party games will also not be exempt from this: you'll be able to pick up other games on cartridge as well.

good thing Nintendo doesn't make games that need day one patches. they actually finish their games

Nintendo is only returning to cartridges if the NX is a handheld.

Publishers don't want to pay for cartridges, these are the same jews that don't want to put 3 pieces of paper in the case of a $60 game.

>these are the same jews that don't want to put 3 pieces of paper in the case of a $60 game.

Oh shit, that's a good point.

>don't want to put 3 pieces of paper in the case of a $60 game.
Do what now?

Cartridges were like hard burned ram memory, there is no way that Nintendo will try something like that with the NX as the cost would be extreme.

What you should expect is relatively high speed DS style cartridges that are fast enough to offer acceptable loading times, while also not requiring game installations.

>the same jews that don't want to put 3 pieces of paper in the case of a $60 game


Fucking christ, I hate the modern industry.

You know the most fucked up part? Most import games I got have had full booklets

what makes you think that you can't do that on cartridges?

They've stopped producing physical manual/booklets and even their dumb gay advertisements. You open a new game, you get the disc and that's it, not even a "warning" sheet of paper telling you how to treat the disc

>They've stopped producing physical manual/booklets and even their dumb gay advertisements
Oh, well yeah, pretty much everyone has stopped that.

the thing is, the PS4 doesn't have really long install times, that's really only the Xbone which can take up to and over an hour before you can play.

The only thing keeping you from playing immediately on PS4 is Day 0 patches.

Well gaming companies got chased up by environment protection companies and obviously they used that excuse immediately to make more money on top.

there are loading times but negligible compared to disc based media.

Take a look at BK on the 64. That fade out and in effect hides the loading times

That's how much it costs to buy one, not how much it costs to manufacture it. Who is the dumb ass now?

How underaged are you, you fucking idiot?

Did you not play SNES or N64?

Carts were basically a piece of hardware that you added to the system. They plugged directly into the motherboard and were even capable of adding processing power to the system. That's why there were no load times, the game's data is basically like RAM in your computer.

This would be too expensive today.

you should see the loading times on the Vita

It's not going to work like that. You're still going boot into whatever OS Nintendo ID going to put on it before you load a game. Plus read/write speeds are only one of many bottlenecks systems have to overcome now, which is why even Wii U games installed on the system's flash memory have loading times anyway. You're oversimplifying things.

Games aren't the same as they were 15-20 years ago you fucking retarded faggot

Manufactured flash drives cost 1/60th the price of bluray.

Are you seriously telling us you have no ducking clue how an optical drive works? Moving parts vs non-moving parts?


It has to do with hardware, not software, dipshit.

who the fuck sells games?

stop buying shitty games

>ducking
That was very meme of you.

It doesn't fit on a disk either

>who the fuck sells games?
People who have games they don't want to play anymore.

If I didn't want load times I wouldn't bother with consoles and get a pc

Yeah but they had that technology that allowed you to switch discs. Could you do that with N64 carts?

This, the Vita's load times suck, and you know why? It's got more than 8MB of RAM, unlike the N64. If the NX is anywhere close to the PS4 and Xbox One in specs, it'll have a lot of RAM and the advantages of cartridges / memory cards will be all but erased.

That doesn't include the most expensive component, the 32-64GB of flash memory.

I don't, but I sure like to take advantage of those who do and score some games for cheap eventually.

>who the fuck sells games?

You're asking the wrong question. What you should be asking is
>Who the fuck BUYS games
And the answer is fucking everyone

Used physical games are cheaper than digital, and have the benefit of not only longevity, but you actually own it, unlike digital content.

And no, the whole "Well you dont own your physical games either" argument doesnt hold up in court. Sony tried to pull that shit, got told to fuck off, and then got hacked right after.

>You can experience this again if NX uses carts
3DS uses carts and you can't even experience it on that, you dumb son of a bitch.

Technically, yes, but early models of the N64 only gave you something like 12 seconds to do so, and later models only gave you 3 seconds.

I hope thats a fake cartridge RRRREEEEE FUCKING LUCKY NORMIES

>I actually firmly fucking believe Nintendo will return to cartridges for the NX and they'll do the following with them:

That would be a brilliant idea for them, if they also make video games worth buy, but I don't think they'll do it.

>They've stopped producing physical manual/booklets and even their dumb gay advertisements. You open a new game, you get the disc and that's it, not even a "warning" sheet of paper telling you how to treat the disc

Those are useless.

Why not just, you know, go to thrift stores and yard sales?

>Dragon's Curse for $1
>Splatterhouse 2 and 3 CIB for $3
>Megaman Legends 2 for $7

I already had a copy of Earthbound, so I gave that one away

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Small fucking world user, I was born in Islip, grew up in Medford. Cousins still live in Patchogue.

Cool. So lower the price of the game.

Why? People still buy them at the same price regardless of those little papers, and they always have on every console it's been a thing on.

I live in a flyover state in the south;-; I did get a gamecube with 5 controllers ssb, double dash, and mario party for 75 which started me lusting for me to complete a collection. I do look man, I do.... That spoiler... ITS NOT FAIR!!

>flyover state

Jesus Christ how horrifying

It's the other way around. Games are only able to maintain their price by cutting corners like this. Games have been barely adjusted to inflation since the NES days, of course paying 50 bucks for a game in the 80s entitled you to a lot of cool shit like those mini comics and booklets that came with them.

Japan adjusts for inflation every now and then, that's why the games there still comes with manuals etc.

the only advantage of a cartridge that I can think of is local saves, you can take your game to your friends house and not have to wait to download your profile to play the game.

although some games on the 3DS use sd saves for whatever reason like Fantasy Life.

>Flash drives are $30 for 128gb

I can't tell if this is good for video games or not. Bluray discs still only hold 60gb right?

yo dude you should restore than SNES

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How's the disc read motor on your Dreamcast? Do you have to turn it upside down to get it to read games?

>Creating a Bios and OS for every single game
Nobody in their right mind would do that these days.

Do you morons seriously believe carts would cut load times?

I'll restore them eventually

And yeah, the Dreamcast reads flawlessly. I'm more concerned about the PS2 slim.

>Games now use digital manuals as the norm
>If they have a manual at all
I hate this so much.

Cartridges would. But the idiots in this thread seem to think that the cartridges of old and today's flash memory are the same thing.

Don't remind me;_; have to go literally one state over for any worthwhile yard sales/ thrifts

No, they haven't moved since the PS3 where games were $60, except that they have and now it costs over $100 for a complete game with DLC.

PS2 gen was $50 no DLC

Prior to that games were $70, in 80's and 90's money.

Handheld games have been the most stagnant, they've always been $30 and only recently moves to $40 with the 3DS and then freemium with mobile