What is the worst case of censorship in a game for no reason?

What is the worst case of censorship in a game for no reason?

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Sanji looks better with the sucker in my opinion
The cig makes him look edgy

>Playing on consoles

>cigarettes make you look edgy
Are you 12?

There is nothing wrong with making alterations to avoid a Mature or Adult rating. A company wants to target as many people as possible.

Who cares about it? No one that matters thats who

There's a game coming out/came out recently and the censored the protagonists braided hair.

Just completely removed it from the game in america.

>Smoking is cool :D

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Not him, but it does add a flaw to character.
You know, so you could relate to him.

That was Gunvolt but they did give him back his braid. The shirt change was still in though if i'm not mistaken.

Who cares really, who the fuck cares, i played the censored OoT, i played the censored RE1, i played the censored Crash 2

Who the fuck cares, you only start caring about this shit when you become a manchild with nothing better to do

How about alterations to avoid T rating?

Gunvolt, they literally censored his hair braid.

Side note
>This much needless ironic shitposting

>Who the fuck cares,
You do, since you took the time to respond. Now fuck off, you autist.

Fatal Frame V since they thought adding Zero Suit Samus skinsuit was somehow less fapbait than a swimsuit that the grown adult character uses in a photo shoot

didn't lower the rating either

NISA removing the lewd scenes from otaku games they're brining over is pretty stupid. No normal person is going to play Criminal Girls, who are they kidding by getting rid of one of the main draws for the audience?

Is this really a case of censorship? The braid and crop top is way more associated with femininity in the west. It's more localization than anything.

He's a moody fucker who has some mental issues due to lack of desensitization with women.

I think the man could definitely be a smoker.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you actually asking if covering a character up more and removing aspects of their design is actually censorship or not.

With that in mind.

Yes it is really censorship.

>WAHHH THEY TOOK AWAY SOMETHING THAT WAS COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO THE GAMEPLAY

end thyself, if it doesn't affect the game then why bother? the game belongs TO THE FUCKING DEVELOPERS

If they want to censor bits because they want to cater to a broader audience that their fucking problem as long as they don't butcher the game and even then, it's their game and their right to do anything they fucking want with it

Don't like it? don't buy it, but don't bitch like you are going to change their minds

i support good games, not marketing strategies of "taking an ass shot away while i have these other 900 ass shots" nor i'm a supporter of "the game got completely butchered by taking away this alterternate costume that makes my dick hard"

He's from Japan, where yes it is still seen as cool and something a real man does.

That post had nothing to do with any of that. Why don't you calm down and have a drink of water.

It was done awkwardly here. Poison suction cups was just wierd

No, he's right. It's not censorship. They're not censoring something because they disagree with it, it's a fucking hair braid.

They looked at the character and said "Fuck, only gays have hair braids here. Nobody is going to play as a fag. Lets just crop that shit out." It's literally just a localization. Pointless, but nothing bordering on censorship.

Censorship to most though refers to changing something for moral/religious/ect reasons.

To me the design looks more relate-able to masculine sensibilities.

I know you're going to try to pass of what I'm saying is shitposting, but honestly the US design is more simplified and aesthetically pleasing to me, and I know I'm probably not the only one who feels that way.

>Tokyo Mirage Concert
>Up the characters ages to 18 so you won't have 17 year olds in bikini
>Still change the bikini in story scenes to hip-hop clothes, removing the point about Tsubasa changing into them to prove that she can be gravure idol
>Remove bikini pictures from a dungeon that's supposed to be about sleazy photographer, replace them with regular pics
>Cover breasts of a boss with black smoke (only in the cut-scene though!)
I seriously have no idea what the localization team is doing.

It's all good bro, it's just somebody's opinion

Not him but pointless, T is the biggest and most profitable market.

but it is and you know it

>the game belongs TO THE FUCKING DEVELOPERS
i agree
as opposed to the publishers / localizers

what were you aiming for with this unsolicited rant of pure kneejerk autism?

>it's not censorship if i'm okay with it.

That's all you are saying here. They removed something from the design because they thought it would be unappealing to the new audience. That is censorship. Furthermore, it's an act of complete senseless censorship for ACTUALLY little to no reason. Which was what the OP asked.

As much as I dislike censorship, a company has the right to artistically do whatever they wish with their product. If you disagree with that then you're basically saying the creator isn't entitled to creative freedom with their work.

That being said, a third party causing censorship is something else entirely.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=jjphanrGEKQ

#FE or whatever pulled a 4kids tier censorship with a boss' tits. Wish I saved the webm.

How'd they make that work?

The side from which you suck on the lollipop is not the same side from which you smoke the cigarette on that image.

I've never watched One Piece.

Removing the swimsuits in Fatal Frame 5.
The game is already rated M. Why remove swimsuits from a fucking M rated game?

Ok well it's obvious you just ignored what I said, but I'll still respect you and read your post.

>They removed something from the design because they thought it would be unappealing to the new audience
> it's an act of complete senseless censorship for ACTUALLY little to no reason

And you contradicted yourself and look like a jackass now.

Great job.

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Promotional material for the MURICA version.
It's funny because all the things they "removed' are actually still there in the game. Just hidden behind menus now so knee jerk christian mothers don't know that their little Billy's Mario games don't have them ass and tiddies.

Literally everything you complain about, you cannot complain about if you are from America. Where gore and giblets are good show, but cleavage corrupts the minors.

He's a chef. Find me a non celeb who's been in the business for more then 5 years and has lungs that aren't more tar then flesh

>the game belongs TO THE FUCKING DEVELOPERS
Developers, not localizers. Other than Super Mario Bros 2, I don't recall any time when game that was altered for foreign release getting released back in original country, which goes to show that usually developers don't consider the changes to be for better.
>don't bitch like you are going to change their minds
Why? People complaining has had effect, such as recent Steam release of Final Fantasy XIII which got Japanese voices added. Why should people just be quiet and not let companies know when they are not pleased with their decisions?
>i support good games, not marketing strategies of "taking an ass shot away while i have these other 900 ass shots"
Who says that good games and butt-shots can not exist together?

It's one of the cancers that kills gaming, all these "WE GOTTA FITE CENSURSHIP GUISE", only harm games and the developers end up either making less of THAT content that was censored or they start "self-censoring" in order to raise awareness

The best way to fight censorship is not giving a fuck about it, because then you can say "See? No one cares about your claims, you SJW faggot" but instead people go apeshit and they play right into the moral guardians' hands making them go "See? If we take it away, then the gamers become angry! That proves they only care about this stuff"

Publishers/Localizers can do whatever the fuck they want with the product they were in charge of localizing or publish, and even then, how often do you hear them fuck up?

They work for the same company (or they were hired) that made the game, that gives them the right, again; don't like it? Don't buy it

Censorship or not, you have absolutely NO SAY OR RIGHT in the localization or making of a game, who are you to claim what was censored and what was just a design choice? Are you the developer? Then shut up and let them do with their product whatever they want

Entitled gamers thinking they know better than the devs are cancer

what is worse.
censorship of jap franchises
or
localization of jap franchises:
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The braid looks retarded. Midriff on the hand is the real crime here

>Other than Super Mario Bros 2, I don't recall any time when game that was altered for foreign release getting released back in original country

Squaresoft with Xenogears.

Shit like Robotech isn't censorship, but I hate it purely because of entirely different reasona as to why they do it.

Thankfully I'm from Europe!
...or not. Fucking region lock, fucking release schedules, fucking games being fucked over for American audiences and not getting fixed over here.
At least it's better than SNES-era with magazines wondering if anybody would bother to bring the hot new translated game to backwater country.

This is obviously and ultimately wrong. You are on the right track but are missing levels upon levels of where the censorship is, and who decides it.

The artists draw and create the designs.

The directors approve the designs into the game.

The studio owners decide what games get released.

The publishers decide where they will publish.

THEN The publishers pay censors to work over the game and remove aspects they don't want to be associated with them.

The publishers should have no creative freedom with the properties they publish, they should either want to publish the game as it is or not at all. And if they dont want to publish it at all, that's fine, but don't take a game, completely remove all its selling points, then sit on the "Rights" to the game so nobody else can sell it either.

But beyond that, where do you say the rights begin? If the director approves something and the studio owners say it must be changed because of fan reaction, was that censorship?

What if the director decides to force artists to change their design?
Was that censorship of the artist?

This is a much more complex issue then you are thinking of.

me, i've only smoked once, it was disgusting

you're the sucker

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I'm not saying I'm okay with it. But you literally don't know the definition of censorship. This type of thing is done all the time in books and movies, and as long as it never changes the tone or moral of the story it's usually fine. It's just making a character more palatable to the target audience.

For example, say I write a book about a character who smokes as a bad habit and the book is getting translated into Chinese. Well say the Chinese don't consider smoking a bad habit, they consider it completely normal. They would have to give him a different, more Chinese bad habit to make the character more palatable to the Chinese worldview.

I think it's pointless because the people who buy these games don't really give a shit and are almost always into the 'Jap Uniqueness' they import to us culturally.

#FE is already out in fucking Yuropoor.
Fucking why does Nintendo always release JRPGs there first? Literally every other company ignores your shit.

I live in Canada btw. Where violence is a no no, but sexual freedom runs rampant. My city has the highest per captia number of people with STIs in North America

This, all the chefs I've worked with smoked liked chimneys after rushes. Being a chef is stressful as fuck.

That looks like a quality japanimation, I don't know what you're on about.

Even in Japan they altered the game before its release. The final boss was originally going to be YHVH, but Square went "WOAAAAAAAAAAAAH NOW, you can't just do that". So they changed it to Yabeh (a combination of Yahweh and yabai, the japanese word for bad/dangerous). In the US it was further changed to Deus.

>Shit like Robotech isn't censorship
May as well be considering how Harmony Gold acts

>SD Gundams
top kek

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I was under the impression that the hair braid was significant to the end of the first game, and the ultimate fate of Joule.

Its not censorship becaues nobody is going "we can't let those westerners see braid and midriff, they are gonna flip" they are going "we need to communicate this characters masculinity to a western audience and these visual cues are not helping" If that's censorship then translation is censorship.

>Japan
>Real man

Yeah we could've gotten SRW @1 in the west if it wasn't for Harmony Gold

>0:51

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>The publishers should have no creative freedom with the properties they publish, they should either want to publish the game as it is or not at all. And if they dont want to publish it at all, that's fine, but don't take a game, completely remove all its selling points, then sit on the "Rights" to the game so nobody else can sell it either.

What selling points besides gameplay could you need? The publishers have the right to do whatever the fuck they want because they work for the company that made the game

I'm pretty sure someone has to give a final "OK, release it!" even after the publisher did their wonders

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>Being anti-censorship leads to more censorship
>The best way to fight censorship is not giving a fuck about it,

Neither of these ever worked like you want to pretend they do.

>Removing two (of hundreds) pantyshots? Censorship.
>Redressing a male character by covering more skin? Localization!
Sup Forums, shockingly, is full of hypocrites who only care about censorship when it cockblocks them. If Gunvolt starred a girl with the exact same design, Inti-Creates would be accused of being SJW reactionary transkin for daring to cover the character's stomach.

Calm down there Anita

>#FE is already out in fucking Yuropoor.
No it's not. Coming out in next month, same time as America, which is still pretty amazing. And the three-month wait for FE Fates is also relatively small.

They've made that joke so many times now.

Still my favorite long running show though.

Using analogies just make you look fucking stupid. Especially when the analogies are untrue, on top of being unfitting.

Completely removing something because "The audience would find it unappealing" is the definition of censorship. Localization is "The audience would not be able to understand it."

For example, In zero escape whenever talking about cats, the main protagonist develops a tick, which is a common japanese trope. Where Japanese speakers will sometimes use "unnecessary" prepositional phrases. Such as "you know?" or in the most famous example "desu" where desu is already implied.

If an English speaking character just started saying "meow" after every sentence we wouldn't understand why. So in the localization they changed it to him making cat puns when cats were mentioned. So that the english speaker can clearly understand that the character talks goofy about cats.

On the other hand, if they would have completely removed that entire scene because "wow english speakers will just think him saying meow is dumb" Then it becomes censorship, because you are removing something that the new audience "wont like"

It's really not censorship though. It's stupid and a waste of ownership of a franchise, but it's not stupid. It was just something you did back then to get a show to fit a whole 1980s tv season because Macross wasn't long enough for that.

Don't get me wrong I hate it and the fact that they did it, but I don't blame Macek for doing what he did when he was just trying his best with the situation.

>The publishers should have no creative freedom with the properties they publish, they should either want to publish the game as it is or not at all. And if they dont want to publish it at all, that's fine, but don't take a game, completely remove all its selling points, then sit on the "Rights" to the game so nobody else can sell it either.

You are living in a fantasy world. Guess what? In tv directors don't call the shots, the producers do, directors exist to bring the producers' vision to life. In art, unless the artist is privately wealthy (fat chance if your name isn't Andy Warhol), what he creates is often determined by the patron that sponsors him. Even in film, where the director mostly calls the shots, the studio has to approve the script and make it as one that they like, and often it's vastly different from the script the screenwriter first penned.

The thing you want doesn't exist and has never existed. The artist has never had power, it's always been in the hands of the person that funds them.

Then how come the yuropoor press already have pre-release copies?

The best part is later on in that very scene, they zoom out to the crowd surrounding them and you can clearly still see the unedited gun held to his head in the distance

This whole SJW thing started because faggots gave attention-whores the attention they were looking for

>Being anti-censorship leads to more censorship
They are not doing it right, since the only times i've seen people complaining about censorship is when lewd content is involved

It makes me think "Gee, i wonder what the gamers care about in their games". How is it that people can't seem to find other forms of censorship around? What about i don't know Chris Redfield smoking in RE1, or the removal of the Muslim Chants in OoT? How come no one ever mention examples like those?

Face it, taking lewds away is the newest publicity stunt in the market, Overwatch did it and their game got all the publicity they needed

I saw Gundam being brought up here and there, and this is a bit off topic, but where's a good place to start with that show? I heard there was a version of it that focused more on earth battles with more realistic tank like Gundams rather than the more anime esque ones. Which one is that and is it any good?

>that song
I enjoyed the preinstalled content that was on every windows 7 computer.

>pre-release copies
I wonder.

but it's not censorship, I meant*

Censorship is done to prevent people being offended. I don't think anybody would be offended by the content which was altered in this case.

I believe it was changed to make the character more appealing to the western audience, and not less offensive since it's not offensive to being with (except maybe to homophobes?).

just watch patablor and macross instead

But only the yuropoors got it. NOA isn't giving out press release.

Internet wasn't mainstream enough for RE1 or OoT to be noticed.

That's because NOA sucks at marketing.

>lack of desensitization with women

Sanji wants to bang Nami.

the witcher 3

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Xenogears wasn't even finished when it was released.

Didn't Inti-Creates actually fixed this after people complained the game was censored?

Sanji is supposed to look like a delinquent punk.

Removing things that are unappealing still falls under localisation. It's still pandering to the new target audience.

No it isn't, that's why he is not edgy for smoking

Don't talk about yourself like that.

Commit a few violent murders, be the change you want to see

If you don't care why did you write all this

why did you enter this thread

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It's not censorship if they're trying to localize it for what the foreign audience wants more.
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>No it isn't

Actually he is where the show is made

Actually no. Japan is very anti-smoke these days. It wasn't when One Piece debuted though

Who says it has to be cool. It just is something he does.