Are graphics deadlocked?

Are graphics deadlocked?

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I just wish they'd focus on bettering AI now. AI seems to be stagnated as fuck while everyone rubs their dicks about graphical fidelity.

>top requires a i7 5960X + 980Ti to run smoothly
>bottom runs "smoothly" on a $40 apu

>arma
>mid budget
hmm

>implying
a3 runs great on my 2 year old gaming laptop

you don't need a 980Ti to run it at 30fps+dips like Uncharted.

no
ArmA's visuals are very overrated

>top one let you travel to that mountain in the distance
>botton one is just a long script

Have PC users ever had to damage control this hard for a game before?

It seems the shitposting has reached asinine levels of ass hurt at this point. I'm so sorry PC.

Thats by PC standards though. If you just want to run it at 30FPS anything can do that.

how is arma 3 a mid budget game?

Arma is a pretty stupid choice of an example. That games is so specific and unique in so many ways it's not even funny.

yep, more like low budget compared with a Sony AAA

looks shit senpai

>promo pics
Oh boy... like, are you even trying? Certainly not a bullshot, no sir!

>Gaming laptop

They are contracted by the fucking US Army. Naughty Dog ain't shit.

And a whole lot of other countries on top of that

>taking a full pc with you when you study abroad

>top
can explore the entire area and enter every house. Still looks amazing from afar

>bottom
cheap 2d sprites and low res background. Its just foreground and doesnt load much resources, yet look like dogshit

So
This
Is
The
Power
Of
The
PS4

Not AAA but not quite low tier indy. AA would be s better term.

Its weird how this is a bullshot and still doesn't really look good. Its ok because of the vibrant colors but all the tree leaves, which is most of the picture, are 2d and look like shit. There's barely any foliage too, and its all unimpressive.

I don't know how you could hate a game like this.

Actually a I7 only gets about four frames more than a I3 at similar frequencies.

A 980TI won't give you a significant boost at 1080p either compared to mid range graphic cards.

Gothic 2 had more convincing forests

Looks good to me.

Uncharted looks like dog shit.

>Arma has visible roads, farmland, different plant life on different sides of the road.

>Uncharted has no visible roads, buildings placed in the middle of nowhere, a bridge going nowhere, everything apart from the slope on the left is a solid shade of green painted onto the surface.

TLoU looked good, what the fuck happened?

>Promo shots
>It actually looks like that

Literally me.
I actually use my laptop now I'm back home because its stronger than my pc, which I'm going to buy a new GPU for and clean out later on when I have the money.

vegetation looks painted on

>bullshots
>legit in-game screenshots

Thanks for complimenting the game I guess

It's not wheter or not you hate the game, i'm sure Uncharted is a good game in some respect, but most games are made with more graphical potentnial to be better and big budget devs stagnate on making any improvements other than fancy character models and textures

Is Sup Forums deadlocked in asspain and shitposting?

>hey are contracted by the fucking US Army. Naughty Dog ain't shit.
Not for ARMA though. ARMA is fairly big budgeted by local standards, but in global perspective it's mid-range budget at absolute best. Compared to anything Naughty Dog makes it's cheap as all fuck.

Took that last night.

TLoU was made after 3 other games on the PS3 and naughty dog mastered the power of the cell. This is their first PS4 game and it shows.

my post was not a compliment

The honest answer in this particular comparison comes down largely to the CPU. Efficient draw calls and data streaming have been unbelievably superior on PC for a long time now. And it's a shame, because console GPUs while weaker are right now still pretty good. The PS4's GPU is fine for a closed, affordable system. But to keep costs, heat, and energy low in a small box Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo cheap out on CPUs and go for the most affordable, efficient model they can have mass produced. This is detrimental to any game that requires substantial draw calls and streaming of interactive space or large 3D vistas. You can have an 8-core PS4 CPU and it'll be smoked by an perceptually outdated 4 core PC CPU without hyperthreading. PCs generally are so, so, so much further ahead, hence why every single open world game (other than unoptimised turds) runs noticeably smoother on PC hardware. CPU headroom is invaluable for these kinds of games, and consoles fucking suck.

And since most games are still made with console limitations at a bare minimum, this is how we've gotten to where we are. It's not a GPU problem; it's a CPU problem.

Because in Arma you can actually go wherever you see.
Uncharted? Nope.
Plus its running on a dog-shit platform so they're limited in what they can do.

>contracted by the US army
youre thinking of Bohemia Interactive Simulations, a completely different company now. They dont even share code between each other IIRC

They aren't though.. The military branch of bohemia interactive is its own studio which used to be based in Australia and his owned by an american investment company.

They share history but are totally different companies who don't share anything now.

Actually the Czech studio was almost all out of juice before the DayZ hype started and got them millions of extra sales.

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Yes they are, thanks console fags

It's a pretty stable 30fps.

youtube.com/watch?v=ZIx81srGliY

Also the top one allows you to go explore everything you see, the bottom one doesn't, it's all scripted and shit.

SO THIS

IS THE POWER

OF PC

WOAHHHH.....

Try playing with Arma 2 Assets, looks like shit but it runs well on bad pc's and is still a lot of fun if the mission is good. And you can have clutter/full cities without frame drops and lags.

Pic was running well on a shitty server with i3 CPU and HDD. Mix of Arma 3 and Arma 2 Assets on the imported Zargabad map.

That error message doesn't even make sense though. It says 'The program can't start because...'

This will never not be funny.

Crysis still can offer superior visuals ten years later... This is depressing, stop holding us back console peasants.

>not playing as a chronomancer

you fucked up home skillet

How would he get a .dll error if he was already in the game? And it looks like a DX one which wouldn't even allow you to run the game lmao

>E3 2014
Why not use the video of the actual game that they released a few days ago instead?

>crysis 1 still looks the best.

Modded maps yeah but the vanillia game has aged very clearly in everything but lighting in the forests which is still 10/10

I fucked up.

Either way, it hasn't changed. The game has very few dips and those dips are usually 28-29 FPS at worst.

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For non-arma players, picture in this post is basically performance Arma 3. Normally it looks more like pic related.

Fucking this. Graphics are just becoming huge money blackholes.

AI, physics, collision, there's about a million other things that would drastically improve the GAMEPLAY and not just the look of the games that they should be throwing money into.

>SO THIS
>IS THE POWER
>OF PC

Just because they're under contract with the military doesn't mean anything, the military only gives them like 10-15 million over a 5 year period.

ArmA is such a fucking mess of a game, it looks good and bad at the same time.

Hey, that looks really good, I'm not going to lie but I do want to ask how much it would cost to build a PC to run crysis on that level?

meant for

>Actually trying to discuss graphics on Sup Forums, or almost any vidya forum for that matter
Why would you do this? Basically no one actually understands even half the basics of real time rendering and just shit's out stuff like "LOOK AT HOW GOOD THIS SCREENSHOT LOOKS!!!!!" and "NUH UH THIS PICTURE IS PRETTYER" and then everyone continuously shits on each other like a bunch of retarded coprophiliac babies

Crysis 2 and 3 worked spectacular in low/mid tier rigs. Too bad they were shitty games

Post video

WOW, the PC mustard race gets triggered so hard by Uncharted 4.

It's hilarious to read their asshurt posts.

Trying to discuss anything on Sup Forums illicits the same response this place is shit

Fucking this.

Its because most people can't run it above 30FPS at VH settings so people turn shit down drastically to make it run well.

TLoU was ported to PS4, so they should know it and have less problems.

TLoU on PS4 looks better than UC4

BUT IT'S SO MATURE user!

>mastered the power of the cell
someday you'll learn what "optimization" means

tlou looks good but uh, no it doesn't look better than Uncharted 4.

That is the video.

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>not playing with tons of mods so you could have dozens of classes and races

Arma 3 is pretty optimized for single player, it's when you go online your fps is dictated by the server you are playing on. If the server is cap at 30 or can't reach 60 which is 90% of the a3 servers out there, then you can't either

Well, the PS3's processor was at the time incredibly esoteric. It is true that mnay developers really did improve their skills over time to make the game look better.

HOWEVER, and this is a big however, the new consoles just use bog-standard x86 processors, exactly the same as in PCs. This, what we're seeing right now, is pretty much the pinnacle of what can be done on PS4/XBONE, save for possibly a few enhancements based on new techniques or new engines. But this is basically the best that the consoles will get for a long time.

Can't show AI on bullshots.

>no one likes to talk about GTA IV graphic mods
Why?
youtu.be/1o-ojTM6tCE

kek. sonycucks BTFO

Even if they're not going to improve AI for the graphics fag bullshots, there's still a fuck tonne of work they can do for animations.

This mod makes me realise just how fucking weird it is to see a city like this with hardly anyone on the street.

the fact that parts of it are still comparable without it being laughable is a pretty sad indictment desu

>dat ground
>dem hair
if not for a lot of greenery, it would look like a ps3 game

Uncharted 4 looks better than anything on your cuckplattform :^)

Or great graphics mods for shitty games
youtube.com/watch?v=MGyaR2sSBkA
4k 60fps

Reddit is over there, friend. Your upvotes await.

All these look like shit, GTA IV never was and never will be impressive graphic-wise, neither is Uncharted or TLoU.
They're fucking disgusting.

>all this photomode
If you're going to shill your shit platform and game then at least post actual screenshots not bullshots.

>you need an i7 for gaming
nice meme, my friend

Keep lying to yourself, cuck.

saved pic

Why would you want to travel to the mountain in the distance?

This is why sandboxshit is horrible. So much shit you can do, and for what reason? It's not even satisfying.

No one cares about facing AI in missions

I just want an optimized game

>Actually a I7 only gets about four frames more than a I3 at similar frequencies.
Usually true, but not for some modern engine games, in particular ARMA3.

ARMA eats up CPU

The industry and consumer focus of muh graphics and muh realism has caused stagnation in vidya visuals because they aren't focusing on making games look interesting with the tech they have now. The inverse is that most indie games are just bad pixel art.

>to flank the enemy
>to get superior position
>to recon the area
>to set up a base

Arma3 benefits massively from having one of the biggest and most detailed maps in gaming