Will namco ever top this?

Will namco ever top this?

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Probably not.

Graces F is by far the best game in this shitty series and the combat system doesn't deserve to be in such a shitty franchise.

It wasn't that great. They reused literally every area from the first game and didn't add enough new stuff. The story wasn't bad overall, but they way they chose to advance it by putting in payment barriers really broke down the pacing and made it feel like one long sidequest. At least the combat was pretty fun.

hopefully. The amazing qualities are a bit lessened when you see some of the flaws the game came with, such as the paywalls and the way your character talks.

It's my favorite too. Never really understood the hate towards it

To me the scale of the game seemed pretty massive. Definitely way more than the first. I thought it was actually really cool that they had the benefit of the old assets so they could make it all that much more. The story was shitty though, and I'm one of those faggots that plays tales games for the story.

Ludger's autism is painful

Free Run > Every system used after

whoa nice rare milla

Other than Vesperia, I can't say I'm a fan of Tales games post ps2 era. By no means are they bad games but I feel they don't live up to the older games. Then again I might have shit taste, one of my favorite Tales games is Legendia which seems to be everyone least favorite.

How can it be the best tales game when assbel exists

I think Vesperia is the worst of the ps3/ps4 era games (not including zestiria which I haven't played yet). People just tend to have really varying opinions about this series.

>Non-stop autism exploitation of weakness to keep shit going

It was boring as shit.

they already did with Phantasia, Abyss, Symphonia and Vesperia

Honestly I liked every Tales game I played except DotNW, Tempest, and Innocence.

Phantasia is my favorite despite it all.

>Will namco ever top this?
They did.

My nigga

I loved Hearts R.

>choices that didn't matter
>making the mc silent was pointless
>xillia 1 characters didn't really contribute to the story at all
>reused more assests than any CoD game
>lazy ex dungeon

It wasn't bad, but far from being amazing

>one of my favorite Tales games is Legendia
is the music really that good?

the world design is atrocious

>xillia 1 characters didn't really contribute to the story at all
>reused more assests

pretty sure they just shoehorned Xillia's story in and called it a direct sequel just so they have a reason to reuse assets.

Baba is doing the same shit with bersaria and calling that game a prequel to zestiria just so they can continue reusing assets

>tfw was just listening to youtube.com/watch?v=Pls8oMlEKRU

They will probably never make another Tales like Xillia 2.
What team worked on Xillia 2 anyway? It really didnt feel like a Tales game.

Well at least Zestiria has a good and vast world

isnt tales of yearly now

.t casuals

>youtube.com/watch?v=Pls8oMlEKRU
that's a big song

lol wut. its empty and boring and an extremely poor attempt to make an open world type playing field which is what they were trying to go for. the developers themselves said they were inspired by open world games which is why they went with the bigger playing fields.

And? They just need to polish it further with how they place the monster and more stuff

It is a major improvement compare to hallway simulator like Xillia 2 overworld

>i-its good! they just need to keep polishing the turd up! maybe spray paint the turd gold and add an even amount of corn and peanuts on it!

yeah, go fucking kill yourself. stop defending shitty design.

edgy

Jude or Milla?

No? Look at JP release dates.

I really liked it. The darker tone the story had and the what-if style scenarios with the alternate dimensions was a nice change of pace. Gameplay was pretty good too.

A shame that they way they handled progression and reused Xillia's overworld (which is already bad) was fucking awful.

Baba isn't producing Berseria

MUH BABA HE'S RUINING THE GAME REEEEEEEEEEEEEE


Baba ain't making the game, simmer down faggot

Casuals, how? It was really redundant checking what enemy was weak against and then making combos based on that just so you can keep the exploits rolling.

There is not much to top.
Overall presentation/content games like Eternia, Vesperia and Destiny DC among others are better.
Character balance is some of the worst in a series that is already pretty fucking terrible with balancing.
PC3 is some is one of the most retarded mechanics introduced in Tales, and in X2 some characters can't even initiate a combo against some bosses without it and upon using it bosses become glorified punching bags.
There is no pressure upon the player because of this, on Vesperia PS3 you had to look up for tech-outs and adapt your chain accordingly (if you could). The Xillia games don't have this, and they even throw a big blue/red exclamation mark when an enemy is about to tech-out. Dumb.
The one thing it did right was Ludger raising the bar higher when it comes to amount of Artes can be able to equip. It's good for masturbatory combo videos and little else, too many dumb design decisions.

Good play Destiny DC if you like X2, it's combat is similar but infinitely better.
I don't how you can like X2 more than in a "cool but severely flawed" way. You must be hella casual.
>the game with the most on-rails combat in the series is the best
Now this is casual.

>they even throw a big blue/red exclamation mark when an enemy is about to tech-out
Just to be fair here other Tales games have used this. I do agree its pretty stupid though.

Tales of Zestiria is the worst Tales game ever released. This is a fact.

>Tales of Zestiria is the worst Tales game ever released
Is it really that bad? Recently, because of a work related accident, I've started playing all Tales game from each console generation. I'm about to hit Zestiria, I'm about 90% done with Xillia 2. Also, is the PC version any better than the console or is it a shit port?

Never, really.

>tfw Rose is the best girl Namco has ever produced

Fuck off Baba, she's just a Mary Sue of your stupid irl crush.

The new camera system alone makes it pretty shit. Literally trying to fix what isn't broken.

Did I strike a nerve, user? Is it possible that your favorite Tales girl can't even match up to the perfection that is Rose?

All tales girls are generic blobs. Rose is just a special kind of shit.

C'mon man don't be like that, I'm just having some fun with you. Surely there must be some girl you like.

I'll never play Xillia 2. I can't stand sequels that just reuse 80% of the first games assests.

Plus I hate the protag transforms into black edgy mode cliche/trope.

>Ludger
>Edgy

Whoever decided to use that FUCKING "MUTTON, FRESH MUTTON" sample for THIS GAME AGAIN deserves to get killed. As if this game wouldnt reuse old shit enough already, but this shit was annoying in the first game already.

It's not the absolute worst. That title probably belongs to Tales of the Tempest. But for a big mainline Tales, that was also toted as an anniversary title, Zestiria is pretty damn bad.

THIS JOB IS FOR A REALLY RARE ITEM

PC port is better.
Also to answer your question about it generally being bad here's a list:
>plotholes literally everywhere
>the concept of MUHLEVOLENCE
>battle system
>even more retarded skill system
>you need to grind to get decent skills
>dumbass camera but only in tight places
>30fps IN BOTH OVERWORLD AND BATTLE
>Rose
>huge empty maps

The only thing that's good about the game is the visuals and music.

To be fair there is a patch for it to be 60 FPS.

But it's ridiculous they couldn't do 60 FPS in battle to begin with since both Xillias could handle that with some slowdowns in certain figts.