>Snapmap will be great, it has a lot of potential
>this game is not gimped by consoles
>trust nu-id they know what they are doing
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So what's left of this game?
Virtually no modding, horrible multiplayer and mediocre 8-hour singleplayer. Paying more than 10$ is not justifiable.
Snap map is a shitty replacement for modding yes, it should be used as a stepping stone for people like me who don't have the skill or patience to make an actual mod, not the only option. Fuck you, the singleplayer is a solid 9/10.
>everyone likes it
>i better shit on it!
>yeah now mom will think im cool when i tell her
>Everyone likes it
Citation needed
ez
Is there an option to turn off glory kills completely?
Doesn't take much to buy vote spammers.
Well I never understood assburgers who got a kick of spawning and killing 10000 enemies in a single shot.
hehehehe
Does anyone have the Doom 4 version of moom and dood? I forgot to save them last time.
mm loved the song, loved that EURG sound.
MMMMMM LOVIN IN, ID.
LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH
NU-ID
And here we have the annual "metacritic is viable when it serves my purpose" post. You can set your clock to this shit.
Remember when a lot of people defending the game during the beta kept saying that the multiplayer can be fixed because SnapMap will allow us to raise/remove the 2-weapon limit? What happened to that?
>annual
>Sup Forums is one person
Set your clock to my nuts slapping against your mother.
They were proven wrong and are now hiding.
>annual
Sadly, it's become more frequent than that, my sweet lovely dancing anime girl, after all they're the aborted offspring of "magazines scores are valid discussion material only when it suits my argument" posts.
So now that Bethesda has shat on Fallout fans and Doom fans, who will they shit on next?
is it possible to mod in old wads at all?
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>i better shit on it!
But the editor is legitimately bad. It's actually impossible to make slaughter maps which are pretty popular in Doom. Hell even Doom 2 standard maps had more plenty more than 64 monsters in UV/NM.
Doom 5 will only allow 12 monsters with only 6 spawned at once.
Screenshot this.
12 Demons is a fucking joke, but no PC could handle 100k back then at release
This right here
But PCs could definitely handle more than fucking 12.
This, It's clearly whoever made said video didn't play DOOM when it came out.
But he's right, all the non singleplayer features are ass. Its hopefully fixable in the future but it still sucks.
We're not in '93 anymore, you've missed the point of the video.
Pretty much this senpai
Arbitrary limits will not help snapmap to last for even 5 years. The originals lasted as long because weren't gimped to start with
No.
Well, technically they were gimped but going open source allowed users to remove the limits. Of course, there's no chance that neo-id would make their games open source.
dont press f
What's funny is that before the game's release, you could see during the entire snapmap stream on twitch that the two weapon limit was in every single map they played, but people still tried to tell me that snapmap would remove the two weapon limit
F
>technically they were gimped but going open source allowed users to remove the limits
Can't argue with that. id should've realized this. Limits were done to have more space for future TOOTS.
I must be taking fucking crazy pills or some shit
>Sup Forums before Metroid : FF
>I want a metroid game where you play as the federtion and it's a multiplayer shooter!
>Sup Forums before DOOM
>Man, i hate regenerating health. I want a game that rewards you for running in and being agressive! rip and tear!
>Sup Forums before Battlefield 1
>Wouldn't it be cool if instead of going further into the future we had a modern shooter that went to World War 1?
Now we have all three of these.
Wait, the game has a 2 weapon limit?
How the fuck did i miss that, and i've been following the game? Fucking stupid.
>bunch of faggots on Sup Forums spread lies about this game and say it'll be shit
>turns out the game is good and 90% of the "criticism" Sup Forums levied against it was complete bunk
>m-m-muh modding!
What is the point of continuing to shit on this game?
It's over. It got released and it's good. Most of you were wrong. Get over it, and go back to shitting on games that haven't come out yet. All of these threads are grasping at straws and it's already old. The Witcher 3 shitfest was more entertaining than this.
No one gives a fuck about multiplayer in a Doom game. No one gives a fuck about the map creator in a Doom game. Mods will still come out for the PC version regardless about how you think the modding community works.
There is nothing to shit on anymore. It's over.
> mediocre SP
That's not even an opinion. That's a flat lie. If you didn't like it, you were never going to like any Doom game, or you are so steeped in nostalgia that it's probably drowning you. You are a colossal faggot
Why are you quoting shills?
mad: the post
But nobody has any issue with the singleplayer. People are complaining about the outsourced stuff like multiplayer and snapmap.
>No one gives a fuck about multiplayer in a Doom game. No one gives a fuck about the map creator in a Doom game. Mods will still come out for the PC version regardless about how you think the modding community works.
This is just pathetic to read. It's reminiscent of people defending the fuck awful battle mode in Mario Kart 8 by pretending battle mode never mattered.
The campaign is great. SnapMap could be massively improved through removing the two weapon limit and monster limit, but both are unlikely to happen. If they release id studio 5, snapmap probably won't matter after that.
MP could be massively improved through adding alternate playlists that disable loadouts, enable weapon pickups, allow players to carry all the weapons they want, disable the demon rune, and disable hack modules, so basically "classic" playlists, which I suppose is entirely possible through post game updates but I don't think it will happen.
>No one gives a fuck about multiplayer in a Doom game
Wrong, and people most certainly care about multiplayer in an id Software game
>Implying people weren't bitching endlessly about finishing moves /glory kills / whatever they're called
snapmap is way too limited, it's literally the TS2 map editor with a bit of scripting.
Also the limited level size and enemy count is not just because of consoles, it's for people with shittier pcs aswell since id probably doesn't want people to constantly change settings/not being able to play levels at all
>I want a Metroid game where you play as the federation and it's a multi-player shooter
Said -literally- no one ever in the history of man.
Metroidfags always want more backtrackan and exoloran, not Rooty Tooty Point and Shooty with faceless Marines.
That was back when PC gaming was trying to replicate nintendo technology in platformers. It is the current year and id should have some foresight. Back then it was a new frontier and people were figuring shit out as technology came along, now they are fully capable of releasing quality modding tools along with the base game. There is no excuse for this shit.
That's the only thing they can bitch about, and honestly I agree with the guys who say that there's not enough variety and 90% of them are just punching shit.
but i want NUTS(2016).snap
When it said 100% demons I thought it meant in the room. Jesus, that's so lame.
People wanted it in 2014, and then federation force happened and they never did in the first place
The only good part of this game is SP. MP is outsourced garbo. Snapmap has shown itself to be useless and not even a step on the ladder that is Doombuilder.
Fuck nigga there are 79 monsters in E1M2 on UV.
What the fuck were they thinking? This is a game that should have HORDES of enemies. Not 12 at a fucking time.
Yes I mad.
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DOOT needs a Legendary Dark Knight mode
imagine the furnace fight but filled completely
Only in multiplayer and maps created with snapmap
It turned out to be true.
Problem is the implementation is clunky and there are already so many snapmaps that it's impossible to find a game for any given one.
Short as fuck though the only reason it took me 2 days to finish it was because of the secrets also I was on nightmare if that also makes a difference
nudoom defence force to the rescue!
Newsflash: 3D models are harder to render than 2D models
Consoles did this
doom fag will actually defend, doom being gimped out of the gate and without modding support.
What is Dynasty Warriors?
The multiplayer code did actually, there's a much higher demon limit in the singleplayer, they need to restrict it to 12 demons (+4 players) so coop games are playable via a listen server.
Simplified lower poly models with very simplistic behaviours compared to doom AI
Big difference
It's like the new hitman AI on the Paris map, most of them are just simple basic AI which doesn't react at all to 47 aside from slowly walking away when shit goes down, whereas the rest will fully react to things you do and have scripted patterns
>Simplified lower poly models with very simplistic behaviours compared to doom AI
So do the same for D44m.
You clearly have no understanding of how it works
If it was done in a similar style with doom enemies would just constantly walk towards you no matter what and wouldn't have half of the complex animations they have - plus they wouldn't try to do any flanking or anything to react to the weapons you have equipped
While true, Doom was made with the expectation that people were going to make their own content, that's why nearly a quarter of a century later people are still making maps.
Snapmap will be lucky if it's being used 6 months from now.
So?
Have two versions of the mob that can be placed in the editor. A deluxe version and a mass produced version. Leave the choice to the mapmaker to decide which one to use and where.
Kill yourself.
>That's not even an opinion. That's a flat lie. If you didn't like it, you were never going to like any Doom game
It's an inferior singleplayer experience to Sunlust or Valiant. This whole argument is the same one Brutal Doom supporters use to excuse their faggotry any way.
Oh yeah and just add an extra 3 months+ development time and budget on creating a simple AI version (let alone the extra space in gb as update and charges from Steam/PSN/Xbone for the storage)
JUST so you can spawn thousands of mobs which won't play as fun as the main game
>Wouldn't it be cool if instead of going further into the future we had a modern shooter that went to World War 1?
said no one ever
Well, enjoy your wasted feature that no one will care about then.
No one ever said that about metroid. If anything Republic Commando fags are optimistic.
Everyone hates regenerating health but no one wanted a mechanic for you to stun enemies and then walk to them and use them as piñatas.
so yes, consoles did this
If only that was true. Just looking at this thread and you can see retards pretending to be "Old fans", when in actuality they're just underage faggots that played Doom much later when it went open source, claiming that Doom is shit as a whole even though the single player is good. They're not many now at least though, most seem to have died off when they realized that them making up complete lies (IT'S LIKE COD, SLOW AND SHIT") and whining about the gameplay without having actually played it did not help their credibility. I am fine with people having a beef with some of the features in singleplayer, like upgrades and such, even if I personally like it but it's fucking pathetic how much people were trying to spread misinformation.
I can understand people not liking MP or Snapmaps that much though, though I do still think Snap map has potential, just that it wont be as expansive and have as much options to what you can do.
Can do in the old open source Doom was what I meant to say. Shit.
>I do still think Snap map has potential
You are literally who OP quotes.
I'm just saying it has potential, rather than say it's complete dogshit or great.
I know, shocker.
I am so glad I didn't PURCHASE this software
I was on the verge of pulling the trigger too for BUYING this game
>snapmap
>sound just liek snapchat bruh
>we want the normie audience
you CAN'T make this shit up lol