Pokemon: Mystery Dungeon

>Pokemon: Mystery Dungeon
>Kirby
>Donkey Kong
>Mario & Luigi
>Kid Icarus

One by one, Nintendo has been saving their franchises that not 4 years ago seemed doomed to fade into obscurity.

>Bayonetta
>Monster Hunter
>Etrian Odyssey

All while giving the support necessary to save these 3rd party franchises from extinction, offering them shelter from the hostile industry that cares not for gameplay nor difficulty.

Which franchise do you think will be next? Note that this is not a Console War thread, I'm stating plain facts here with evidence available upon request.

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yeah, but no one wants to go to them anymore. that's as far as it will go. i say this and i have a wii u/3DS XL

Why? Because everyone can just use kickstarter to fund their own IPs?

>Pokemon: Mystery Dungeon
>Kirby
>Donkey Kong
>Mario & Luigi

>seemed doomed to fade into obscurity
Donkey Kong I will give you assuming you mean as a 2D platformer, but Explorers of Sky, Return to Dreamland, and Bowser's Inside Story were not very old at all four years ago.

I just want another core Metroid game man

people still pretending Uprising trash and it's gimmick controls are good?

>Cuckurai said no Uprising 2 never
>turn the entire into railshooter shit
>didn't outsell the original

>KI:U saved the franchise

>Kirby
>dying

>Etrian Odyssey
>not inherently a Nintendo game

>Monster Hunter
>not exclusive because Nintendo managed to give them enough money

I kinda get what you are trying to get at, but your facts are way off.

SF64 has better controls.

The only thing 643D has over the vanilla one, is the possibility to play against bots in multiplayer, and even then those are piss easy.

>Nintendo has been saving their franchises
>DK is suddenly back on the Mini Mario bandwagon
>Star Fox gotten ANOTHER mediocre title but with a SF64/platshit flavor
>another Sticker Star

and how Kirby was dying on Nintendo's hand again OP?

The majority of the game is not rail shooting, but feel free to keep pretending you know anything about the games you're criticizing.

It has that score attack mode where you can replay any individual level without going through the whole game over the original as well.

What's gimmicky about Uprising's controls? Explain.

>The majority of the game is not rail shooting
ground sections were the worst fucking part of the game

people still fell for the Kid Icarus meme?

i smelling a ton of smash kids in here

>ground sections were the best fucking part of the game
Don't worry user, I corrected your typo.

Bullshit.

What went wrong?

touch screen shit

remind me of another smup that has this shit

>taking metacritic seriously

The Mystery Dungeon games are never received well by critics. They're idiots considering these are probably better than mainline

you don't speak for me faggot

>using the touch screen for the camera is a gimmick
C.O.R.E., Prime Hunters, all the CoD ports, Star Fox Command. Yeah those are just gimmicks.

>>Mario & Luigi

PJ was terrible

Zerofag detected

>comparing aiming with a touch screen, which is not all that dissimilar from aiming with a mouse, to controlling movement with a touch screen
You are a fucking moron.

>Mystery Dungeon
They've never stopped releasing Mystery Dungeon titles? There were plenty on DS and on 3DS.

>Kirby
Kirby's been doing just fine...nothing's changed, they keep releasing Kirby games as they always have.

>Mario & Luigi
Again, another series they've been actively supporting, albeit not at a game a year rate.

>DK
I'll give you this one. DKC Returns was the first DKC game in a long time.

>Kid Icarus
The equivalent to necroing a dead thread. It was a long dormant franchise - it was basically a new IP in its newest iteration.

Also
>Monster Hunter
>saving

Not quite. MH4U is fucking great, but they hardly saved the franchise. Forced it to jump ship to a handheld that actually has games and a playerbase? Sure. But the marketing has been weak and it's still the same old sorts buying the games, albeit with some Nintendrones added to the mix. MH4U was fucking great, though. Looking forward to Generations.

>implying MPH was good
Prime Hunters is the second worst Metroid game

also, futher of Tanabe's stupid attempt to turn a simple First Person Adventure into an actual FPS like Quake

>pic

Metroid 2, Pinball, and Other M are worse than Hunters.
And the quality of the game does not mean it's a gimmick.

>if i like it it's innovative
>if i don't it's a gimmick

Monster Hunters fate was not dependent on Nintendo, don't be dense

>Metroid 2
>worse than Hunters
apply yourself hunterfag

NST is never coming back to Metroid Prime nor touching the Dread project (if it still exists) outside mobile shit

>Metroid 2, Pinball, and Other M are worse than Hunters.
>Metroid 2

Metroid 2 is alright. I'd put it well above Hunters.

Pinball is too different to even be worth including in the conversation, but it's one of the better pinball spinoffs out there, and I probably enjoy playing it more than I do Hunters even though I don't care much about Pinball.

Oh, is it hip to like Metroid II now just like Simons Quest?

>Metroid 2, Pinball, and Other M are worse than Hunters.
what the difference? Metroid 2 is just a weak Metroid next to Fusion, meanwhile Hunters has a steaming pile of shit in it's single player (which makes 95% of all of Metroid even Feddie Force)

>developers expecting me to play a game to experience the story
L O L what fools, aint no reviewer got time to actually FINISH a game these days.

Oh, is it hip to like Metroid Prime Hunters now because of Feddie Force's existence?

>implying Metroid 2 was a bad game
lemme guess

you like Casualtroid Fusion?

>Starts of with KI:U, the game that will see no new game for another 2 decades.

it even sold worser than Knack and Other Meme

such a failure of a reimaginative title, and so many people hoped for a replace to Star Fox and it's 2 holy grails

Uh, what? Metroid II was never disliked, just ignored since the game before it was more innovative and kicked off the series, and the game after it was one of the best games in its genre, let alone its series.

It's multiplayer was phenomenal and there wasn't much else like it on the platform. Enough to give it legs, despite the weak single player
>le fusion was bad meme
I bet you prefer Dracula X over Rondo, double nigger

Call me when they revisit Golden Sun.

Golden Sun was never good.

It isn't worth saving

The suck thing is that it's probably one of the last few actually good localizations NoA has done, and it may be their best.
It's such a damn shame because it's so good.

the part of KI:U that isn't a rail shooter is shit imo

i played like 4 chapters before abandoning it entirely

The rail shooting part is mediocre. The third person shooting part is actually pretty good.

i didn't care for the ground section at all but different strokes i guess

>Pleb Sun
LOL

Regardless how you feel about it, third person shooting is the vast majority of content and play time, and you'd have to be totally ignorant to say the series was turned entirely into a rail shooter like did.
That's the point.

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>i played like 4 chapters before abandoning it entirely
Oh user, why?

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i liked the writing, but i don't understand how you're supposed to focus on it when you're shooting shit out of the sky and i didn't really care for the touch controls. Maybe it would've picked up if i mixed up my weapons and layout or something but i gave it a shot so whatever

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I liked Hunters, both single and multiplayer.

Quick, post a Nintendo game/franchise that you'd like to see get a revival.

>pic

>all that shilling and exposure in Smash
You can bet it's gonna happen.

It happened to FE1, Kid Icarus, and Punch Out. It is only a matter of time before they revive Castle Muramasa.

>It's
Apply yourself.

And yep, the multiplayer sure was good, with everyone picking the unbalanced character and the hackers absolutely everywhere.

...

Sakurai continuously makes up excuses for why they didn't bring him in as a fighter. Does he not understand that Smash is the perfect platform for bringing back old characters ,or some that aren't popular in the West,considering the game is pretty much one giant advertisement. For fucks sake, he did this with Ness in 64, Marth and Roy in Melee, Pit in Brawl and added to it with Palutena, plus Shulk in 4.

If he re-introduced the characters fully, then there would be interest in the franchises again. Of course the series will continue to stay dead unless he does this

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Mystery Dungeon games have never been well received.

Custom Robo
Eternal Darkness
F-Zero
Wario LAND
Ouendan / EBA
Famicom / Advance Wars

It's actually pretty easy to explain, too.

Console players are children, or too stupid to play roguelikes, even easy ones.

>remember being surprisingly hyped for this game when I was younger
>parents kept asking what kind of game it was, responded that it was basically Mario but with Peach since it'd be easier to convince them to pay for it since sister would be interested in playing it
>went to Toys R Us
>walk up confidently to the counter and speak to the clerk
>gives me puzzled look when I ask SPP
>parents look even more puzzled when they see that I wasn't bullshitting about

I remember revisiting it 6 or so years ago and finally beating it since I couldn't find a Toad in some level. Pretty cool bosses.

>cousin visits and she gets a DS lite
>later game went missing again
>think that I just misplaced it for the time being so don't panic about it
>never find it
>visit cousin 3 years ago and find out that she stole the fucking game
I was beyond pissed but I wasn't going to make a fool of myself in front of everyone so I had to let it be.

I just want another F-Zero as good as GX.

With online multiplayer.

>Kid Icarus
>saved
Kid Icarus was ruined.

>Mario & Luigi
>saved
Mario & Luigi was ruined.

How was Kid Icarus ruined? The original game is mediocre, and Uprising is great.

Not that other contrarian fag, but I actually downloaded a rom hack for KI the other day, and with some tweaks on its level design, it can be pretty fun.

KIU is still an incredible game though.

The original game is great, and Uprising isn't anything like Kid Icarus.

Uprising is half-Space Harrier but shit and half-mediocre 3rd person shooter with shitty camera controls. Uprising is also a game full of shitty writing. "HAHAHA WE'VE BEEN GONE FOR 25 YEARS ISN'T THAT SO FUNNY?" It might be somewhat amusing if Uprising resembled Kid Icarus at all, but it doesn't, so it's just throwing salt on the wound.

>Console players
You mean reviewers.
The players like them.

The gameboy game was pretty good.

>The original game is great
Not really, no. It's a pretty run of the mill action platformer with no standout qualities aside perhaps from being very hard at the very beginning.

>Uprising isn't anything like Kid Icarus
Who cares?

>It might be somewhat amusing if Uprising resembled Kid Icarus at all, but it doesn't, so it's just throwing salt on the wound.
Setting aside that it's nearly unanimously agreed that the writing and voice acting and localization is superb, you are seriously overestimating the number of people who have played and give a shit about the gameplay of the original Kid Icarus.
Very few people have the "wound" you describe.

>It's a pretty run of the mill action platformer with no standout qualities aside perhaps from being very hard at the very beginning.
It's a combination of Metroid, Mario, and Zelda wrapped in a Greek Mythology theme. It was an interesting game and a good game.

>Who cares?
Fans of Kid Icarus.

>you are seriously overestimating the number of people who have played and give a shit about the gameplay of the original Kid Icarus.
Not really. The vast majority of people who think Uprising is good are underage and had never played Kid Icarus or Of Myths and Monsters prior to Uprising, so they completely lack the necessary context to judge Uprising objectively.

Uprising is a travesty. I only slightly hesitate when I say it's the Other M of Kid Icarus.

>so they completely lack the necessary context to judge Uprising objectively
You are literally saying that people need to come in with certain expectations beforehand or they can't judge quality objectively.
You are actually saying that.
Stop and think about that for a second.

Uprising is attempting to be a sequel to a franchise. Franchises have gameplay and thematic expectations. A game in that franchise that deviates from those expectations is a bad game in that franchise.

Were it an original IP separate from Kid Icarus, it wouldn't be a problem.

You must really loathe Metroid Prime as well

I feel that's an incredibly stupid way of judging a sequel.
I mean, do you think Aliens is shit because it was an action movie while the first was a horror movie?

Metroid Prime stayed pretty true to the isolated, exploration-focused action platforming of the 2D Metroids.

Other M did not stay true to the isolated, exploration-focused action platforming.

Aliens at least still had elements of horror that Alien had. It didn't throw the baby out with the bathwater like Kid Icarus: Uprising did.

Would you be OK with Super Mario Bros. suddenly turning into a visual novel? That's what Uprising is like.

>Super Mario 64
>Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
>Panzer Dragoon Saga
>Donkey Kong Country
He must have hated these as well.

The 3DS is Nintendo's only saving grace. To think that the same company made the disaster that is the Wii U is incredible.

>Would you be OK with Super Mario Bros. suddenly turning into a visual novel? That's what Uprising is like.
Kid Icarus Uprising is at least still a shooter like the original, and has shmup sections like the original.
It went 3D, lost the platforming, and added constant banter, but the change isn't even remotely as extreme as you make it out here.

To answer the question though, sure, if it was a good visual novel.
I can't say I have much attachment to Mario. The best games have already been made, and all the series does anymore is wallow in easy samey above-averageness.

the thing about the franchises you've mentioned were all notable to fans worldwide even in their own home before they came overseas. even KI had a strong and large japanese cult following unlike Takamaru's game.

Murasame Castle and it's spiritual successors on the FDS system is in the same place as pic related. very little following, former devs are gone, low chance to even get a new game outside cameos in spinoffs.

like Sakurai said, 'til he gets a new game, he and the girl from the Famicom Detective Club are low prior as fuck to be fighters.

>Sakurai: "Which has a higher possibility…The Mysterious Murasame Castle getting another entry in it’s series, or Takamaru joining the fight in the next Smash Brothers?"
>Sakurai: "Both are extremely unlikely (dang)."

>Murasame Castle and it's spiritual successors on the FDS system
Isn't there only the FDS game?

Also
>FDS system
>Famicom Disk System system

Boy, you must have been real steamed when those Genesis Thunder Force games were horizontal shooters with music instead of like this:
youtube.com/watch?v=RCjtEG3Ox_o
What a travesty Thunder Force III and IV were.

>MH

Nintendo practically rolled out the red carpet for Capcom

Doesnt M&L suck now?

they need to bring back Metroid.. properly

No, that's Paper Mario you're thinking of.

Not OP, but I'll answer that

Nintendo doesn't appeal to the core gamers that like FIFA, Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed. Those games are the console flashships of Xbox and Sony. Their exclusives are a byproduct to why people buy their consoles, barely 10% of both audiences buy xbox or ps4 because of their exclusives (you can notice that with their attachment rate).

Meanwhile over at Nintendo they appeal to their fans only and find it hard to bring in the core gamers. Smash and Kart are their flashships and sell a metric fuckton more than any PS4 or Xbox game combined.

*flagship, not flash wtf

What the fuck is a "core gamer" in this context?

I mean I heard Paper Jam was pretty mediocre and that Dream Team wasnt anything special either

>Monster Hunter
>support

Dude, Monster Hunter doesn't give a shit. It has its own fanbase which will buy any platform to play the newest MH.

Only thing I'll give you from that list is Bayonetta 2