So was this game the start of Nintendo's downfall?
>Was the start of dumbed down difficulty in their mainline games even compared to how easy OoT already was >The start of the le quirky cartoony graphics that went on to deliver us cancer like Skyward Sword and Splatoon >Began the "styles and gimmicks over substance" tradition that led to the creation of the Wii and Wii U >Expanding on the last point, made Nintendo believe they didn't have to have up-to-par hardware as long as the cartoony artstyle will carry the graphics, leading to the creation of the Wii and Wii U >Almost no exploration, overworld is empty >Smash B to win combat >Only 5 dungeons, Majora's had 4 but was made in a year and had way more side-content >While games like Mario Sunshine and Starfox Adventures were innovating their respective franchises Wind Waker was the beginning of the yearly Nintendo rehash >The beginning of their obsession with water that went on to deliver us shit like Pokemon Black/White and Splatoon >Still beloved by hipsters and tumblrettes
Does anyone truly believe this is a more deserving sequel to Ocarina Of Time than Twilight Princess?
Gabriel Anderson
Those sure are a lot of buzzwords
Xavier Butler
No, ironically it was Ocarina of Time that was the beginning of Nintendo's downfall. Think about it.
Ryder Anderson
I didn't think it was possible to fit so much bait into a single post.
Anthony Allen
Long answer, no Short answer, no Banjo kazooie set the bar to high.
Owen Foster
OoT didn't deserve a sequel as good as Wind Waker
Ryder Russell
I didn't think it was possible for the Zelda game that's literally based around the ocean to be the only 3D Zelda game without fishing in it, so there ya go.
John Green
You think Pokemon B/W had water? This bait.
Nicholas Morgan
No and this thread was not the start of your retardation. That happened 15 years ago.
Kevin Adams
>Does anyone truly believe this is a more deserving sequel to Ocarina Of Time than Twilight Princess? Okay, that was a crafty post.
Camden Foster
I agree, it deserved a sequel much better, and it got one in Majora's Mask, Twilight Princess, The Oracle games and A Link Between Worlds.
>everyone who shits on my shallow overstylized babby's first zelda game is underage! >he says as he defends the game literally tailored to children
Did you even play it?
Logan Anderson
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Chase Morris
All games are "literally" tailored for children, faggot.
Jaxson Cox
No, most games are marketed with a wide appeal in mind to get as many people to buy the game as possible. Wind Waker and everything Nintendo did afterwards is literally designed for children to play it.
Matthew Clark
This was, the Gamecube accelerated it.
Blake Wood
Which involve children and are primarily targeted at children. Kids play CoD. Kids play LoL. Kids play Mario. Kids play Sonic. Kids play Doom. Kids play games. Nintendo has always been aimed at kids as video games are for kids. You're a history revisionist faggot and I have nothing more to say to you or your loose butthole. Go back to doing what you're good at like gargling semen with your colon.
Gabriel Fisher
OP is most likely baiting but I agree with most of his points (about the game itself, none of the "downfall of nintendo" bunk) also the only Zelda games that hold up over the years are the ones made by Capcom. Kek, at capcom making the best zelda games.
Jeremiah White
Kids can't even buy DOOM or CoD in stores without a cashier warning and warranting their parents not to buy it for them, pointing at the rated M tag, explaining thoroughly what it means. Do you even realize what you're saying? It's hilarious how angry you are getting over the fact that you, in fact, are a drone of a company that primarily aims to appease children, so you do these weird and awkward mental gymnastics saying "e-e-everyone plays games made for children!" to help you look at your fat, pimply, bearded, blackhead ridden face in the mirror when you get up in the morning. Please end your life.
Julian Diaz
Mario Party was the start of their downfall.
They never recuperated when they realized they can make cash on groups of people buying dumb, watered down normie games with collectibles in mind. The next step was to make other games easy too, and sell more collectibles. Mario party was the cancer that spread throughout Nintendo IPs.
Cooper Richardson
You forgot
>despite intial misgivings, still made enough in sales to justify the "WE ARE NINTENDO WE ARE ALWAYS RIGHT YOU ALWAYS WRONG" mentality the devs suffer from
Jace Watson
The start was Super Mario Bros
>dumbed down difficulty to satisfy home players and not the punitive sadistic difficulty of the arcade Nintendo >A plumber who willingly kill a monkey to save his girlfriend turned into a weird charming prince rescuing a princess from a dragon turtle >jump to win >mushrooms as power ups and as enemies? Literally, WTF?
Isaiah Powell
How so? Legit curious.
Nathan Flores
It led to the creation of this beauty so i'm going to have to disagree with you, although the points you have brought up are good ones.
Cameron Harris
This is either bait or you have no idea what the average 10 year old is like now.
Christopher Cox
That was a plot point.
Justin Hill
>>The beginning of their obsession with water that went on to deliver us shit like Pokemon Black/White and Splatoon Neither of those games had much water. BW was actually very light on water routes and Splatoon only has like two maps with water.
If anything WW was near the end of their obsession with water, considering Super Mario Sunshine came out before it and Pokémon RS came out around it.
Luke Nguyen
>sadistic difficulty of the arcade Nintendo Spot the casual.
Jonathan Murphy
>almost no exploration Play OoT again and tell me all about ALL THAT EXPLORATION 2d legend of zelda were the only games with decent exploration
David Rivera
Mah nigga, I fucking loved phantom hourglass, i still have nostalgia for it.
Kevin Ortiz
OoT was better than LttP in all ways except one.
David Martin
>Hur, dreams outside the windfish are real
Carter Richardson
ww has something intangible the games since have lacked
Jordan Taylor
>Best Zelda game in the series >Downfall
Joseph Evans
>an entire ocean with secret islands and fortresses and great fairy caves literally built around exploration >no exploration.
Logan Bell
>>The beginning of their obsession with water that went on to deliver us shit like Pokemon Black/White and Splatoon >>Pokemon Black/White >not Ruby/Sapphire, the actual offender of "too much water" good going hoennbabby, stay on Sup Forums
Jayden Russell
Exactly. It was all downhill after it.
Camden Campbell
The snooze factor?
Xavier Perez
LttP is better than OoT in literally every way except """"puzzles"""" which is arguably a plus.
Luke Jenkins
the only correct post in this thread
Ayden Allen
>N64 = Wonky Ass Controller and Cartridge Games >Gamecube = Tiny discs, some games required two discs for full play >Wii = Motion Controls >Wii U = Touch Pad Controller + Motion Controls
I mean each of those systems had a great amount of games, but I don't know why Nintendo has to be so "quirky" with each system somehow.