>FFVII has the far better story of the two (FFVII has the literally BEST storyline of all games ever made, so it's nothing but logic really), there's really no competition unless you're the single most biased person on the planet and have no real idea of what a good storyline is suppose to be or how it's suppose to be told or anything.
Why FF7 is so overated?
Right place, Right time.
who are you quoting?
On paper the story is nothing special, but paired with the atmosphere and music it's pretty rad.
ATB ruins it like it does many other FF titles
>ATB ruins
ATB is the core of FF.
As a huge fan of Final Fantasy, I must say, FFVII might be the best FF, but it doesn't even have the best FF story. That goes to FFX
Wonder how badly they'll butcher the soundtrack
>>FFVII has the far better story of the two (FFVII has the literally BEST storyline of all games ever made, so it's nothing but logic really)
This is why people consider FF fans a joke. Please stop.
I HATE IT
I was so disappointed.
FFVII has the best atmosphere, writing, and plot in the series but holy fucking shit the gameplay sucks massive cocks. It's one of the most braindead games in the series.
Thank fuck for modders.
it's a good game even if it's over-rated though.
The best thing about the remake is going to be Aerith and Tifa, Tifa will be playable?
Its not about liking or hating FFVII. Its about sounding pompous and making people dislike the fanbase.
You're basically turning FFVII into Citizen Kane. People going off and spouting its the best movie ever just makes people hate it out of principle.
Disk 1: Fun, but the story kind of takes a nose dive after Temple of the Ancients.
Disk 2: Holy shit, everything is filler and plot twists
Disk 3: There was a Disk 3?
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Disk 1 > Disk 2 > Disk 3
Disk 3 is the final dungeon and boss.
>Jenova is The Thing
Mind blown
u srs m8?
Should have used his Dissidia look. He looks like one of the starving puppies on that sad commercial.
>FFVII has the far better story of the two
What "two"? What are you comparing it with?
With the other game who was supposed to be FF7 as well.
PS1 polygon final fantasies
FFIX > FFVII > FFVIII though
FF8 was an excellent game though. I hate these faggots who instantly dismiss it just because of some plot holes. At least it broke the mould and pushed the boat out with it's plot rather than FF9's safe rehashing of FF4s story.
Tifa's breasts are too big for the remake.
>I hate these faggots who instantly dismiss it just because of some plot holes.
Every FF game has plot holes. FFVIII did have three absolutely major ones. But still, FFVII has so many of its own, people are still debating over what the story even means 20 years later. And while fixing the story should probably be the major thing the remake focuses on, Nomura is actually going to make it even more convoluted. Not to mention splitting it up over 6 parts.
Anyway, all that ranting aside, FFVIII has a broken story just like all other FF games. But it is one of the few games that actually had a solid conclusion. And doesn't need a dozen sequels, prequels and remakes to 'fix' it.
FF7 had an alright protagonist
FF8 had a shitty protagonist
FF9 had an excellent protagonist
that's pretty much all the rankings come down to
>FFVII has so many of its own
Name one.
Who was the protagonist in FF9 again?
Zinedine Zidane
The entire Midgar start is unnecessary to the story outside of seeing Sephiroth once.
The football player?
half of Disk 2.
Holy Materia
>they had an entire disc for just the last dungeon and 3 bosses (maybe 2 hours of gameplay)
They should have just cut some of the shit parts from disc 2 like the key of the ancients and just made it two discs
Squall is better than both
Sorry for your shit taste
Do you even know what a plot hole is?
And the Midgar portion was necessary
this guy: youtube.com
Not a plot hole.
Explain.
Whatever.
Elaborate
That guy looks like a girl.
What was the purpose of Mega materia on disk 2 if you can get Bahamut Zero on Disk 3 with the research thing?
Sephiroth is also kind of pointless since the main antagonists are actually Jenova and Meteor. Then you have the Turks, Hojo, Shinra President...
Man, if you really cut out all the fat, FFVII would be like a 10 hour game. But all that fatis actually what people think makes FFVII so great. Which is why Nomura is gonna add a ton more in.
I have completed FF9 but I don't remember this guy, now that I think about it, I don't remember any character
>There are people IN 2016 who still think Jenova was in control.
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That's most of the characters of FF, the worst is Ramza: youtube.com
Your complaints with Squall are due to a bad localization. Not his actual character. But this is excusable since you would need to know Japanese to actually understand the difference.
Ramzachannnnnnnn
If its such obvious bait, you should be able to counter it.
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>spoiler
Oh fuck you, you cannot tell me that bullshit was a great story. It was fucking retarded and had shitty characters that no one cared about
Who are they and why did you reply to me?
>I have completed FF9 but I don't remember this guy
What the fuck?
FFVII story is literally a fanfic.
I just can't play FF because they're poorly written.
read a book niggers.
While we're talking about FF...where in the fuck is my XII HD with trophies?
>inb4 "wahh trophies are gay ur gay"
Don't care, faggot.FFXII was the tits and anyone who likes X more should be imprisoned.
Are you implying that those the characters from FF9? you are kidding. I've never seen them before
>this bait
Give it up dude. Trying to argue with FF fans over which is the best or worst story is like trying to get Star Wars fans to admit the prequels were bad.
you will be impressed by FFVII story if you have never read a good fantasy book.
literally anime fanfic tier, which all anime is, fanfics.
>anything I don't like is bait
>I just can't play FF because they're poorly written.
Perhaps the same could be said of all video games.
FFVII is the best PS1 Final Fantasy. Best cast, best plot, best customization, best world, best variety, best pacing. There's nothing fundamentally wrong with it (that isn't wrong with every other FF), whereas VIII and IX have a shitton of problems that hold them down.
It's not necessarily the best game ever made, but it is certainly one of the series' high points.
EPIC
my opinion is your opinion sucks.
12 is the worst besides 2 and the MMOs. wasn't even final fantasy
i imported that shit, made it through the japanese menus somehow, got to the first battle and was like what the fuck am i playing
you perfectly summarized FF tactics.
I love FFT but it's a spin-off.
Also the plot kind of falls apart at the end.
indeed, metal gear is barelly a conspiracy story with some sci-fi BS and robots.
haven't seen uncharted, but it seems like typical hollywood crap.
TLoUS was american zombie TV show.
All garbage if you spend time watching classical cynema and literature.
only manchildren without taste think games have good stories.
Your words are as empty as your soul
Videogames ill needs consumers such as you
And here comes the FFTactics idiots. The only fanbase that can out stupid FFVII.
Yes, how dare a modern FF game not be a hallway simulator where the game gives you only one place to go for 85% of it. It's not even real Final Fantasy when the world is any good, it sucks!
when i buy a game in a turn based rpg franchise i expect a turn based rpg
12 did not deliver on my expectations of the final fantasy franchise
13 sucked too but at least it was recognizable to me
Face it, FFVIII was a disaster in every important way.
>FFVII has the literally BEST storyline of all games ever made
this is true
12 was the peak of FF adventure: youtube.com
Exactly.
Name one video game made today that will be remembered as fondly as "Infinite Jest" or "Game of Thrones". I'll wait.
>Draw magic
I have more apreciation for the story in Super mario world, doom and castlevania SOTN.
The best stories are:
you're here, you have this world, you can do this shit and these guys want to kill you.
games need no more.
with Xenogears. (Only Storywise but the dude went overboard with his shit for FF)
Squall was a good character surrounded by retards, which made his personality clash too much with everyone else.
>FF
FFVII*
well to be fair its much more difficult to make an interactive story compelling and have good pacing and balance that with some kind of good gameplay than to just passively show something to an audience
He didn't mention FFVIII.
One.
Okay but VIII was still a disaster.
>well to be fair its much more difficult to make an interactive story compelling and have good pacing and balance that with some kind of good gameplay
But FFVII didn't do any of this. The type of game you're describing would be something like Suikoden II, Chrono Trigger or Dragon Quest VIII. FFVII is the exact opposite of an interactive story and good pacing.
i mean me personally i'll remember final fantasy 10 as fondly as some of my favorite movies
the public at large? probably not. get back to me when theres an annual video game awards show attended by celebrities on ABC
yeah i wasnt responding to the chain just saying in general. i actually agree. anything that takes me like 7 playthroughs to fully understand doesnt explain things very well
still a great game though
it's really not
>hey let's be idiots and do this crazy guy's dirty work for him when we could easily just not
Zack was the true hero of FF7
This, definitely one of the best written character arcs by SE.
>it's a spin-off.
why does it matter? It's not like this series has any kind of continuity.
It's not even thematically consistent.
>Also the plot kind of falls apart at the end.
explain
And then the side character in his own game.
I've gotta be the only one who wants to see Gift-of-the-Goddess-kun back in FFVIIR
Cecil was the best protagonist
He was alright. I wish TAY didn't exist though.
Infinite Jest is bullshit and faggy readditors just say it's great to look smart.
Nah