>people are returning their copies of Star Fox Zero

nintendolife.com/news/2016/05/random_store_shelves_appear_to_be_filling_with_pre-owned_copies_of_star_fox_zero

great job assholes, if this keeps up soon we'll be stuck on Star Fox Limb0 again until Dylan Cuthbert picks it up again.

>Zero 2 will never happen
>you will never experience full-fledge levels with the Roadmaster
>Gyrocopter element removed in favor to it
they could bring back Krystal, without the bullshit, for all i care.

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jesus

>you will never blah blah blah expanded elaborated blah

Didn't they have long enough to do this to begin with?

come the FUCK on

There is a shelf full of Uncharted 4 at my local CEX

Does that really mean anything?

>Nintendo thought this was enough to carry them for an entire year

Makes sense, I know I returned mine.

Star Fox was always a terribly overrated series. It really should never have been a series. They hit pay dirt with 64 because it had the horsepower to give shape to what they were trying to do on SNES in the original, but it should have stopped there.

It should have never become a key Nintendo franchise. The genre itself is basically dead regardless of the franchise.

I'd rather keep my $60 than own that turd for another second, which I did. God bless Amazon Prime.

people whined about the linear Day/Night shit Miyamoto was going to implement

If they'd actually franchised the thing effectively, SF could have been great.

But remaking the same game 4 times, then having 2 awful spin offs, all spread out over 23 years is not how you get your shit together.

New unopened Uncharted 4.

>key Nintendo franchise

Could have fooled me with the way they were treating it.

Uncharted 4 is overstocked everywhere. Starfox Zero is usual artificial scarcity Nintendo bullshit release numbers.

You know it to be true.

And then Nintendo will recall and destroy every unsold copy and that will drive the price up on the used market.

t. one of the 10 people who bought Sin and Punishment games

Assault was a sequel, not a remake.

It was still the worst of the four.

>CEX
>New

user. Pls.

Doesn't matter. People are trading it in a few weeks after release. Like every game. Some people just don't hold to games.

>sonygger site
>legit
nice try sonygger

>series is just a platform for Miyamoto's dumbshit experiments

The horrendous on-foot sections of Assault were all him.

nintendrones return their games less than other people

they got pokemon coming. they'll fucking live.

>Some people just don't hold to games.
especially if the game in question isn't good

>spreads it over shelf to prove point

The games behind aren't starfox

>SF
>SF64
>SF3D
>SFZ
Basically the same game with graphical jumps
>Assault
Shitty sequel
>Command
>Adventures
Shitty spin offs

Nintendo killed Star Fox by refusing to develop it well

Right but Uncharted and Starfox are good.

I wish I could return the experience of playing the game.

I don't understand how this game turned out bad. Like even if you ignore the motion controls (which worked fine, but weren't needed), the entire game is just fucking bad.

>3 UFO Bosses
>2 Dragon Bosses
>Stages without bosses or Star Wolf fights
>Every Boss is an All Range Mode fight, even the Attack Carrier which fucking matches you speed anyway
>Gigarilla and Andross are fucking Walker fights
>The auto-lock on so you can't even fly normally

Even Pokemon has been falling off for them lately.

Really? You'll have data to back that up?

Debatable. Uncharted 4 is apparently the best game of the year so far. And you can get a second hand copy for £20, 2 weeks after it came out.

>Metroid Prime
>beginning of the end for the Metroid series

>Starfox Adventures
>beginning of the end for the Starfox series

Why was the Gamecube such a piece of shit?

CeX do sell new games, you retard. How do you think they sell games before street date? All they do is open the sealed packaging so they can sell it as preowned.

>Star Fox Adventures was dogshit
>Star Fox Assault was fuckshit
>Star Fox Zero was fucking abysmal

Nah, fuck this series. Star Fox 64 was great but nothing else has been good in this series. Nintendo should either sell it to someone else or end the franchise.

GC is the most overrated console Nintendo ever made.

>Worst SF
>Worst Zelda
>Worst Metroid (Prime 2)
>Worst Mario Party
>Worst Mario Kart (after SC)

Co-op mode is super fun in Star Fox 0. Single player, not so much. They should have marketed it as something to play with 2 people.

>sell new games
>as pre owned
Stop being a retard. Post a source or shut the fuck up.

>Worst Mario Kart (after SC)
Bullshit.

You can? Where from?

>They should have marketed it

FYFYMNYDEHTTM

I want Gamecube/GBA era Nintendo back so badly. Remember when Nintendo broke the status quo on a lot of their franchises?

Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, Mario Sunshine, Thousand Year Door, Double Dash.

Dual Dash is really hyped up by Gamecube apologists but it's honestly pretty bad.

Don't forget worst Super Mario.

And with Melee the worst sub-community.

>60 dollars game
>only 9 short levels
>basically SF 64 spit polished
What the fuck did you expect?

Nigger you are fucking stupid if you think if the Wii Mario Parties are better than the GC ones.

No, you are stupid. Your whole post is just dumb.

CEX, Game, HMV, any shop that sells second hand games really.

The video game market in the UK is ridiculous. I got Xenoblade for a tenner because, and I quote the manager here, "no one knows what a Xeno is"

No it hasn't. ORAS sold 13 million copies, almost as much as HGSS on a system with one third the userbase. Freaking Pokken outsolf Street Fighter V.

making a shitty remake to Ruby/Sapphire that took out more stuff from the originals than it introduced didn't help. Also Yokai Watch blew up around then so no shit pokemon sales were down.

>broke the status quo on a lot of their franchises?

Breaking the status quo of them actually being good isnt a good thing, user.

The Wii was the start of Nintendo's downfall. And it's seen a hard fall since then.

You know how SE are determined to make FFXV succeed by basically pleasing fans, showing progress, accepting criticism, etc?

Nintendo need to do that. A company that doesn't do what its fans want is ridiculous

So is it true that purple fox Crystal cucks Star Fox?

>"no one knows what a Xeno is"
Britain - not even once.

Except they still think they are doing what people want.

>Pokken outsolf Street Fighter V

DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW

Exactly. But sales are falling. How can they fucking ignore that? How long for? When no-one bought the WiiU, they said it was because the gamepad isn't seeing much use.

This fucking company, man

>Nintendo
>giving a shit about the fans
Keep dreaming.

Saying it's a polished 64 would imply the game is actually fast.

SE is already anticipating FFXV to fail,why do you think they took their biggest potential cash cow (FFVII remake) and chopped it into multiple $60 purchases?

>"I haven't been involved in Star Fox since 64!"
>Producer of Assault and Command
why Shiggy had to lie?

>Pokken outsolf Street Fighter V.
IN the US. It still hasn't outsold total sales.

Other M and Phantom Hourglass you fucking nigger.
>DD bad
Kill yourself.

GAME sell it for like near on 50 in store, CeX sell it for 45 and HMV don't even sell games any more IIRC. If you get it for 20, you can profit by selling it to CeX. You are you're not confusing it with the Nathan Drake collection?

When I asked my local GAME if they were stocking Xenoblade X, the manager said "lol that rubbish game? no-one know what that is and no-one buy Wii U game". He was Indian. I'm surprised anyone buys anything from GAME considering how ridiculous their in store prices are.

See, I can see where they're coming from with this.

>MP series was dipping, let's franchise Metroid and try another Metroid when this game releases, to see if the series is on more people's radar
Fine. Whatever.
>SS and SPM are the biggest selling Paper Mario games, let's try it again
Fine. Whatever.

But going back on their now 10 year mentality of multiple ways to control games in favour of a single control scheme in Star Fox?

Literally what is the thinking behind that?

Do you just say things to sound smart?

It's not gonna fail, but there's no way it's gonna sell the 10+ millions needed to cover the retarded development expenses. But it doesn't mean they aren't listening to the fans.

>It's not gonna fail, but there's no way it's gonna sell the 10+ millions needed to cover the retarded development expenses
>It's not gonna fail, it just won't make money.

I'll be astonished if FFXV is a complete game, it's looking more MGSV all over again.

FFXIV, XI, and DQX will continue to cover any losses that XV brings, so there's no problem if it only sells 2-3 million.

>Assault's single player is disappointing
>Command's single player is trash
>Zero is lackluster hybrid of SF2 and SF64
can we get Retro Studios on this?

i honestly feel like giving up on the series at this point

KI:U didn't do any justice for me either

They did it wrong

>have splatoon pre ordered for cheap price
>previews and demo comes out
>it's shit
>cancel it

And haven't regretted that decision for one second. Why anyone even got so far to actually buying star fox is pretty troubling

>lol that rubbish game? no-one know what that is and no-one buy Wii U game"

Why do console warriors take jobs like this? I remember buying FE Radiant Dawn from GAME, because it was cheap as fuck, and the conversation went like this

>put game in front of guy
>Dude, a Wii game? Really? Why do you have a Wii?
>Because I like the games
>Damn man, I've got a Xbox One and its the best console
>Why not just get a PS4? It has most of the same games but it runs them better
>I HATE Sony, I'd never get a Sony console

What the fuck ARE these people? I don't know if I'm noticing this shit more because I'm in my late 20s, but the 18 year olds they get to work in these shops is ridiculous

In Japan too, check Media Create. Unless SFV has a huge lead over Pokken in Europe, that's worldwide sales as well. Although we won't know until Nintendo releases Pokken's full sales.

>Pokken outsolf Street Fighter V.
Sonyggers on suicide watch?

I dunno, not even PlatinumGames could save Star Fox, it might be time to lay it to rest.

Worst attempt at bait I've seen in quite a while. You should be disappointed mate

I'd say no one wants to pay $60 for a 20 year old experience but DOOM is blowing that theory out of the water.

If FFXV someone has the same unfinished feel that MGSV had, I'm not sure I would be able to hold off my suicide for KH3.

I'm killing myself after KH3 because I know it will be the final straw

I dunno much about FFXV, but it sounds a lot like development is troubled. Its out in a few months and they're constantly changing shit, just released a demo with horrible frame rate/resolution (including an area lifted straight from the game, with one character, and limited magic use)

So I'm not the only one! I don't know how those games get so much love.

For me the Gamecube was the first Nintendo console I needed to supplement with a second console (PS2). Then a XB360 to go with the Wii, and probably a PS4 to go with my Wii U. I actually own more Wii games than PS2 and XB360 games combined, and I love my Wii U, but the GCN marked the beginning of a lacking library, especially if you're a fan of genres that just can't be had on Nintendo hardware.

The N64 was a blunder too but at least it carried the generation for me.

This is why I have a modded 5.3.2 Wii U. So I can try before I buy.

>Shit game
>Shit series
>Shit everything

Who cares

Right, and Zero being good would mean you buy it.

SFV sold 1.4 million copies, with at least 155k copies sold on Steam.

i haven't played DooM for a long fucking time

is DOOM any good?

Yeah I feel you there.

At the moment, Nintendo are good for platformers, the occasional above standard action or JRPG game, and Mario Kart. That's fine, but sometimes you just need something a little different. I got Arkham Origins on WiiU just because the collection I had lacked anything I could play for more than an hour at a time, and more than once. You know how Nintendo just took their first leap with multiplayer TPS with Splatoon? They need to do the same with cinematic games

NINTENDOMINATION!

hmmmm what this tells me... is go out and buy a brand new copy and never open it and stash it away in a safe place and in about 10 years it will be worth a grip load. Most nintendo bullshit only goes up in value anyways due to their publishing philosophies.

>>beginning of the end for the Metroid series
>what is Prime 2 and Fusion
not to mention that Metroid was supposed to end at Super Metroid

Yep. It's like they didn't even try to mix it up at all. At least in 64 you DID have the option of taking the All Sectors/Arwing Only route, and the boss fights were generally mostly on rails with a few All Range ones sprinkled in for flavor.

They literally didn't need to touch 64's formula and just reskin it with pretty graphics, some updated music, a few boss revisits (like the carrier) with some new boss fights added in.

I mean, shit, how many of the bosses in SNES Fox and 64 had some sort of interesting gimmick? It really shouldn't have been that fucking hard to come up with new ones without relying on that retarded gyro shit or walker.

I said the same thing about Command when I first got it. All THAT needed to be was a a reskinned/retooled version of Starfox 2, since it borrowed heavily from it anyways, and we got some faggoty stylus shit and barrel rolling into UFOs.

Nevermind the fact that they decided to do some updated tracks from 64 instead of the objectively fucking awesome soundtrack that SNES had. Seriously, I dont know if they fired the composer after Starfox 2 got canceled, but the music hasn't been that great ever since.

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It wasn't your taste are just shit.

Mario Kart Double Dash
All the Resident Evil games were the superior versions
Melee
Luigi's Mansion
Pikmin
Animal Crossing
Paper Mario

The list goes on.

>mediocre 10 hour game sold at full price is being returned already

Woooah.

I own a Wii U and even I think you people are retarded for buying this shitty game.
Instead of buying actual games with good content and replay value like Xenoblade, you went and bought this mediocre sloppy handjob experience

Nintendo really fucked up, Nintendo still produces garbage games that no one asked while continuing to ignore Core titles that are in desperate need of resurgence like F-Zero or Metroid. SF has only had one good game.
>SF
Decent for it's time. Bad for a current game
>SF64
Good for it's time. Decent for a current game
>SF3D
Shitty rehash by nintendo just trying to make that quick buck.The horrible hardware ruins this game
>SF Z
Good example of Neo-Nintendo.Average game ruined by horrible gimmicks, nostalgia cash ins and rehashed.

Uh, what planet are you living on? They did. They had this ad playing around the clock on TV.
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Not to mention they commissioned a fucking anime short and livestreamed it.
youtube.com/watch?v=wA2-0nTxaGg

They also had big promotions with Gamestop over it.

There are plenty of games Nintendo didn't market but Star Fox isn't one of them.

dumb umaru poster

I heard that the controls are terrible, but is it really bad enough to make it an unsalvageable mess?

They're not. Anyone who says they are probably shitposts the same thing about Splatoon. You get used to it after a while.

I know I'm 3 hours late, but most of the changes have been based on fan feedback (like adding a stamina bar for sprinting) so they're not just changing things for no reason and the demo was just quickly slapped together in 2 months by a small portion of the dev team.

Well, if a game hinges on a gimmick and you find the gimmick unbearable, retarded, and most of all, unavoidable/not optional, then yes.

The whole game is a non-cohesive gimmicky shitfest.
It's hardly about the controls, but more about how the game plays.

Just more proof of Miyamoto going senile and no one wanting to tell him to fuck off because he's LE LEGENDARY DEVELOPER

He needs to quit already

>Metroid Prime
>Bad
What the fuck are you smoking?

>People didn't like a 3 hours mediocre game?


Really?!.......

You could have supported good games like Bayonetta 2 or Xenoblade Chronicles X

But no, you decided to support le nostalgia furry series.

I hope you're proud of yourselves, assholes.

There was a SF0 trailer playing when I was in the theatres to watch Captain American 3. They marketed the hell out of it.

Stop samefagging.
I bought the collector's edition of Xenoblade.