Mark Kern's meeting with Blizzard is today. Their discussion will be under NDA but Kern will get some sort of official statement that he can announce.
So now that Vanilla servers are basically guaranteed to happen, what race/class/spec are you going to roll? Favorite zone/city? Favorite dungeon/raid?
Blizzard referencing Vanilla on their fb page.
>implying Sup Forums will pay for legit servers
Trolling aside it is good news i do hope the new server will be everything we hope.
>mfw vanilla servers are happening
Part of me wants legacy serves to flop hard to see all the damage control.
Vanilla fags are just as bad as Nu-WoW fags holy shit.
>vanilla servers
>but you have to buy all expansions to play on them
>and you still have to pay the same monthly fee for subscription
All smiles.
People who buy Legion are basic bitches. Vanilla servers or bust.
Vanilla servers will require Legion, if they are ever introduced.
Me personally, I have no problem with paying a sub fee and staying up to date with expansions for these servers. It's nice to see the goalposts shifted from 't-they're never gonna happen!' to 'y-you'll have to pay for them!' though. Shitposters are in full backpedaling damage control mode atm.
If anyone on here expects this to be free they are mental.
Say that till a mage PoM/Pyros you in the back in STV cause thats what i am going to be doing vanilla was the king of ganking
That would be incredibly jewish. Perfect for Blizzard. Won't fall for it.
I'd do it. Vanilla servers are worth every dime.
>I want to buy another shit expansion just to not play it and play vanilla
Nostalrious was free, so is Kronos. No fucking excuse for this.
Why? you demand vanilla servers bliz says ok but you have to buy Legion fairs fair in my book.
Servers cost money unless you want a laggy server that crashes every 5 mins.
Nostalrius and Kronos have been/will be shut down. Nobody wants to risk 100 days of /played on that shit.
Blizzard will "fix" leveling on retail servers, that's all that will happen. There's no chance of vanilla servers happening.
Why the fuck would I buy an expansion I won't play just to play something I played for free? Blizzard will be like "This is the biggest most popular expansion ever!" and all the Legion servers will be ghost towns and everybody will just be playing vanilla.
It's maximum kikery and people defending it are berniecucks.
>paying to do raids easier than WoD LFR
>paying to play a buggy version of a game
>paying to spam 1 button for 3 hours for 2 pieces of loot for 40 people
>paying to afk in orgrimmar or ironforge
>paying to not being able to having horde and alliance characters in same realm
>paying for games
the thing about vanilla is that every zone was full of people,every server was a bigass community, even if they happen now, it wont be the same.. then faggets will start complaining they want teleports and mounts are too expensive, and gameplay is soo slow, etc
>for free
look up what it takes to maintain a server in todays market. But you wont do that because your just a twat who demands shit for free.
You just admitted to being a bigger kike than blizzard.
>free
nah
the thing is, we already bought world of warcraft. and we were subbed to it for a long time.
paying a subscription fee was fine - after all, they regularly updated the game with new content and updated mechanics.
but expecting me to buy heaps of shitty expansions that i don't want to play? expecting me to pay the full subscription fee even though they're not updating the game anymore? no thanks.
there's literally no reason why they shouldn't let people host and run vanilla servers like valve lets people host and run css servers and like mojang lets people host and run minecraft servers.
>T-t-there's n-no chance of v-v-vanilla s-servers h-happening!!
I still want those pristine servers as well. I'm morbidly curious as to how the content since Cata plays without all the bullshit QoL changes since mid Wrath.
A bunch of frogs did it. You saying Blizzard is too broke to do it? Retard.
vanilla was a lot more fun to dick about in than current WoW but for raiding and shit, na.
why can't blizzard just let private servers operate?
nearly all multiplayer games did it, and many still do.
and dont even start that "muh intellectual property!" crap. you don't see epic games bitch about 'losing their IP' because people run their own UT2004 servers either.
Legion is the best selling WoW expansion to date. Legacy server player numbers? We can't disclose that at this time.
>So now that Vanilla servers are basically guaranteed to happen, what race/class/spec are you going to roll? Favorite zone/city? Favorite dungeon/raid?
Hol' up shill-kun
I'll roll a 360°and walk away if its not
>untouched old patches
>with different realms for different progress stages (say, 2-3 stages for an expansion)
>ability to migrate upwards but not down through these realms
I expect and can deal with some side jewery, like these migrations forward ofcourse costing money and having to pay the full sub for playing 10 year old content - but if the game/realm/gameplay is compromised then nothing changes, no t playing.
Honestly the number of legacy players will be low
Problem for them is that the live player numbers are also low, since they don't really do damage control for live, just jew harder - you can guess what they will do for legacy too.
Nos are not a public traded company with people to answer to blizzard is. A fan project has no acountabilty to sharholders this does. Also i think you are the retard here as i live in the real world where shit costs money so this givsmedat free server don't work here.
Never ever vanillacuck
>the helm is really heavy
>i'm sweating under all this armor
>my feet hurt
It's not that simple for an MMO you fucking retard.
A simple FPS like UT2k4 can have people host servers since you just need a server hosting the game and clients.
MMO's are extremely more complex than a simple server/clients relationship.
Not to mention WoW is a pay to play MMO.
Didn't actiblizz literally buy themselves technically being indie now?
Vanilla was a far inferior game to TBC.
The only people who will disagree with this statement are edgelords.
>servers won't be super high pop
people thought nost was annoying but besides inflation from there not being enough mine/herbs to go around i don't think i can play any other way. world pvp was literally in every corner of every zone.
>Nost team arrested and sent to blacksites outside of the US
>Kern raped by a prosthetic orc dildo wearing Metzen
Book it
A lot of people act like you can only have it one way, but stop and realize that people can still play current wow and then log off and play on a legacy realm when there's nothing to fucking do in Legion. And you know there will inevitably be nothing to fucking do in Legion at some point. Legacy servers could potentially retain sub numbers between content patches. It's not something to roll ones eyes at. That's a lot of fucking money being left on the table.
>muh illidan is crazy and alive
fucking arthas raped that faggot in TFT, also outlands has the worst zones ever
en.wikipedia.org
Says nothing there about that, i would go dig deeper but i am not in the mood right now.
TBC was Edge: the Expansion.
I'm a TBC fag user and while TBC hit the golden road between extremely clunky make-no-sense mess and extremely streamlined, dumbed down shit - classic gets on par with TBC because it was a new experience, the first world of warcraft, and that meant a LOT for the people coming from WC3 - as opposed to space-goat-paladins, edgelord shit looking belves and quite a few other, mostly lore related thing that TBC mishandled terribly.
Mark, please stop posting on Sup Forums and get back to work.
Actually its right there
>Split from Vivendi and growth (2013–14)
>At the conclusion of the deal, Vivendi was no longer Activision Blizzard's parent company,[34] and Activision Blizzard became an independent company as a majority of the shares became owned by the public.
Bitch please, Nagrand
>It's not that simple for an MMO
simple enough for hundreds of private server teams to do it, even WITHOUT using the actual server software.
blizzard could simply release the server software and be done with it. people would set up their own servers and play how they want to play, no more investment or effort or support from blizzard required. you know, like people are playing gorillions of other games.
>b-but it's an mmo
so it needs long-term stable servers that have higher player capacity than most other games. big deal. again - people are already successfully dealing with this, even though they're severely handicapped and restricted by having to work with shitty emulation software instead of the real thing.
>they'll just arrest him on sight
>everyone saying that servers are def gonna happen
>not realising that blizz is just going to hire them on as staff so that they'll shut up about old servers and spew pro-blizz stuff
>classic trick- hire the dissenters that do your job better than you to get them to stop dissenting and improve your business
Vanillafags totally going to get shit on, just you wait
>as a majority of the shares became owned by the public
At least read what it says they still have fucking shareholders
Friendly Reminder, whether Vanilla or retail, to purge Forsaken. That is all.
Btw man this wikipage is one extremely depressing look into gaming today
>On November 5, 2013, the company released Call of Duty: Ghosts, which was written by screenwriter Stephen Gaghan.
Which part of the quoted sentence do you have trouble understanding?
It was self deprecating edge, though. "You are not prepared" was instant meme material.
You are not prepared was a legit meme though, considering how much justified use you could get out of that line while raiding, you really couldn't help but use it when...people were not prepared
Tons of those private servers are usually buggy as shit you do know this right?
Even than Nost wasn't 100 percent straight vanilla according to alot of nostalgiafags here.
Also the costs of hosting a server to house that many players is immense.
Nost was gonna fail even without Blizzard intervening since they couldn't pay the server costs since not enough people were donating.
There is a reason why MMO's are all WoW clones nowadays. They all cost a shit ton of money to develop and support so devs are gonna play it super safe.
The fact that they still answer to the fucking public shareholders? You have linked nothing that refutes that point now you are just fishing for an argument win go fuck yourself faggot.
Fuck vanilla.
BC, or wotlk.
I started in late BC, and have never bothered with private servers. If an official vanilla server does come out I'd happily try it. I'd probably make a Gnome Warrior for Alliance or a Troll Warrior for Horde. I'd def be a warrior though, because I love tanking in MMOs.
BC is shit, when will people realize this?
>Also the costs of hosting a server to house that many players is immense
~$500/month is an immense cost now
>he thinks thats the same as being owned by a board of directors
When you learn to read, and then read that wikipage you can see the mistake the write made, with actiblizz+kotick+Kelly owning more than half the company they can do whatever the fuck they want really.
Bc was great.
You're just jaded, nobody. With shite for an opinion.
>Movie is a bust
>Legion will flop due to negative publicity and all around shit expansion for a 12 year old game nobody cares about anymore
This is the year Blizzard dies.
What's the point. It won't have the same sense of nostalgia and exploration as original vanilla. It'll be the same content you've seen before. I just don't get why people care this much. Chasing something that'll never be as good a the original
I can't tell which side is more delusional
It was a lot of fun on Nostalrius. Not being a teenage shitter during the experience this time around made it better in a lot of ways.
>Actual class/spec balance that literally didn't revolve around every class being pigeon holed into a spec to be viable. You could actually play a ret paladin in PvE and not get kicked.
>Actual raid/dungeon mechanics. If you seriously think Vanilla WoW bosses were hard you need to unfuse the nostalgia googles of your skull.
>Rated PvP and PvP rewards. No matter what you think about Arenas, a huge portion of the playerbase literally logs in to just play Arenas.
So you are saying that because the bosses "own" it they wont charge you for vanilla servers? what are you fucking smoking Fact is you got caught out as a kike who wont part with money and as i said before you are fishing for an argument win. Good day sir
>Overwatch sells millions thanks to waifus,porn, and super casual gameplay normies love.
Naw brah Blizz expected this.
I never said anything even remotely close to that, my first post in this convo was about the buyout.
Which is indeed to say that they can do what they want and don't really answer to any board with power over them.
Which is exactly why they have gone off the jew-deep end, Vivendi literally held them back.
3 (THREE) guys managed to do it without donations for almost a year
>Overwatch just came out
>Hearthstone still printing money
Nah, it's more like WoW isn't Blizzards biggest cash cow anymore.
You mean Evolve 2.0? It's already dying.
You are seriously mentally handicapped if you think Overwatch is already dying.
It still probably made more on loot boxes alone than what Evolve did in its entire carrer + the next 5 years.
you're right, he's wrong. overwatch was dead on arrival
One thing i am getting from this thread is if they did implement vanilla servers why not just have both vanilla and Legion toons? I know you are all for the "legion sucks" argument but why not just have both for a laugh? does it have to be one or the other?
>game is literally being televised on national television in foreign countries.
>It's dead on arrival.
I'm not even a blizzdrone. But, you are seriously living under a rock if you don't think this game isn't a commercial success.
youtube.com
most people memeing about vanilla wouldn't really buy all the expansions and pay the monthly fee to play
blizzard is getting trolled hard, and all their work setting this up will result in ~1000 people playing.
this tbqh
>mfw legacy servers get 5 million subscribers
>mfw they legitimately kill retail WoW
>mfw all along the WoW killer was WoW itself, just repeating itself in an infinite loop
literally NONE of that would be blizzards problem if they released their server and let other people run it as they see fit.
>BUT ITS EXPENSIVE
private servers have been around nearly as long as the game itself, and they always found a way to deal with the costs. nost wasnt the first and nost hasnt been the last.
also, this might be a surprise to you, but hosting a server for a 10 year old game doesnt actually take THAT much processing power and memory, nor does it take abnormally huge amounts of bandwidth. this stuff was literally developed and run on 15 year old tech - nowadays this shit runs on toasters.
>mfw less than 50k people join vanilla servers
>mfw chinese gold farmers migrate there and ruin the economy
>mfw almost everyone quits after the first three months because nostalgia isnt enough to keep paying
>mfw you think you want it, but you dont
how will legacy servers get 5 million subscribers if there are only 4 million people in the world?
Bots.
>mfw retail Vanilla had 8 million subscribers paying full price for the game and the sub
>mfw 150k people and growing were actively playing on a buggy piece of shit private server
>mfw these people were playing on nostalrius for over a year eagerly awaiting the AQ update
>mfw he thinks there won't be deathsquads of chinkhunters there for the exclusive purpose of driving away the slants and preserving the pristine american WoW economy
>they release vanilla servers
>but add on all the fucking awful shit like lfr and lfg
you know it will happen
>Buy all expansions
What? Vanilla + every expansion is in a single package that goes on sale for like ten bucks.
>they will change vanilla zones back to the vanilla look
Doesn't legacy server mean legacy software with bugs, security vulnerabilities and having only support for legacy server hardware?
IF they make LFG limited to only the sever, I might be ok with it.
it would be cross server
STOP RIGHT THERE, CRIMINAL SCUM.
Why don't people realize the only reason people want legacy servers of MMOs is to try and capture the same feeling the community had way back then?
It's the same shit for people clamoring for a pre-Big Bang Maplestory server.
Protip, you can't actually recreate those communities
>find every node with mathematics
Dumb nigga poster.
This shit doesn't hold up anymore post-nost.
Not that it ever did, but now you have no excuse for trying to push this garbage.