Using the Dark Sword when you can use ASS

>using the Dark Sword when you can use ASS

Literally why? It's better in every way.

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why not lothric SS with the 110 critical?

Range and aesthetics. Also no faith requirement.

lothric doesnt have a faith req nub.

Refined Dark Sword +10 shits all over raw ASS. Raw ASS is only for low level twinking.

OP's pic is Anri's Straight Sword, which is way better than the Dark Sword.

r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1

>Lothric SS
>18 DEX requirement
>Has best scaling with STR
What the fuck.

Dark Sword has better base damage with a lower DEX requirement.

There is no faith required for ASS, user. You're thinking of THE ASS. This is Anri's straight sword. Dat passive healing. Dat luck scaling which has almost identical damage to the dark sword with much less stats invested. Dat Carthus Rouge.
>dark sword
>more aesthetic than ASS

pleb.

It's meant to be a quality build weapon and actually one of the best

also, in addition to the 110 crit, it's longer than the longsword and has a nice 2-handed thrust, instead of a slash

whats up quality bro.

More stat investment needed

>buffable
>4 kinds of scaling
it's a beast

Ultra-greatsword for life. R1, hard attack, jump attack till everyone. If I'm lucky I can get a jackass to roll into the charge attack and one shot them because they stopped at 27 vigor.

400 AR with 10 str/dex and 40 luck. Eat shit.

some builds need to make sacrifices to stats, not everyone is a pure Strength or Quality build.

Because i like my Butcher Knife and Great Machete

Stomp.

butcher knife all day tho bro. its my fav twink weapon.

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what ugs can do 1300 damage in one hit

Im interested in Anri's ASS.
Whats the optimal build for this delicacy?

They never use it. They just press r1. I made a thread asking why darksword users never use stomp, everyone stated latency.

Why use one sword when you can use two?

>doing anything other then a 45/45 build
for what purpose really

10/10
40 luck

Do as you will with the rest.

Scales with luck. Slap some Carthus Rouge on that baby and go to town.

It requires luck witch is fucking useless.

10STR/10DEX/18FTH/40LCK

18 FTH so you have access to the blessed weapon miracle and the fast casting chime.

Equip the Sun Princess Ring, blessed off-hand weapon/shield. All that plus anri's sword will give +5hp/s as a passive ability, through on the Blessed Weapon miracle for an extra +2hp/s.

Only good for bleed builds and even then bandit knife is better

How is it useless when your build is based around it?
That's like saying dex is useless in a str build, of course it is, but only if you want to use another weapon
Otherwise just go with hollow infusion

>enemy coming at me, try to stomp or war cry
>enemy unaffected and I'm back stabbed

God, I hate faggots who have to use npcs to hide behind.

>I main a luck build

Because it does nothing at all it was added for gimmick bullshit. It would be all right if it actually raised your item discovry.. but 40 luck raises it by 1.2%

If you stick with that one weapon then str is just as much of a gimmick as luck
Blueblood sword in DeS also had luck scaling and it was great

>i don't try differnet builds
>i only follow the day1 meta

>Strength build
>gimmick
No son strength build by default uses more then one weapon it is meant for all strength weapon. Luck is pure gimmick for bleed damage and nothing else. You actually need strength to wield things you don't need luck for anything. You could have 0 luck and have no problems. 0 strength and you can't use a damn thing. It's ok to like gimmicks user but don't defend them nigger.

>always 3v1
>"hiding"

Sure

When people line up and duel proper, that's the beter route, but punish those who don't

if you and your team are so good they should easily run through the map no problems slaying mobs and invaders.

>SUMMONING PHANTOM

I'm not a cuck.

bandits knife can't stunlock with weapon art for a garunteed bleed on one hit confirm

These weapons are absolute horseshit in PvP. The moment I see any fag using this I immediately whip out my bandit dagger and go to town.

>pvp
There's your problem

Why do they always kinda smile in these

I personally use Astora Greatsword

>refined it scales with B/B for dex/str
>ultra greatsword that is lighter than most greatswords
>do a shitton of damage
>has hyper armor
>has a good charged move

STR is the best stat as it has the second best gains for flat damage reduction and the best gains for fire damage absorption as well as adding to almost every weapon's AR.

DEX isn't as good, but it does decrease cast time and still adds AR to most weapons.

LCK increases Item-Find, which is useless as the gains are low and there isn't as much need for it in DaS3 as compared to other DaS games. LCK also increases Frost/Bleed/Poison chance, but bleed is the only worthwhile status and the best builds for it still require heavy investments in STR and DEX.

his suit is too dang big for his manlet body

>leo ring effects rolling r1
fucking why from. I get god damn 960+ rolling r1s in pvp

It's much better than the Bandit's Knife in PvP, even in non bleed builds. I run them Sharp at +2 on my low level invasion build (SL35 with 18 Dex/10 Luck) and most people can't survive the L1 -> L2 -> R2 combo when buffed with Carthus Rouge.
It procs bleed twice versus some players, killing them outright, or leaves them at double digit health if it only does once.

Because I can't get the fuckers to even drop.

With that you run the risk of getting hit bandit knife with carthus bloodring has 26 I frames when you quickstep so L2 R1 L2 R1 and you'll proc bleed after 3 or 4 hits equip Leo ring for extra damage to your R1

it loses its luster in high level pvp because basically the battle art becomes parry bait and the move set is so limited besides the roll r1/r2 and same 2 hand 1 hand set of swings.

But i do love the scaling it has.

Mah nigga

>infuse with lightning
>S faith scaling
>wreck faggots with it's insane damage
>lightweight so I can wear the armor I want
>use weapon art to chase after fags estusing
>amazing dodge attacks

>luck back
>no bbs

I've been using Refined Longsword for PvE, it's pretty good, but when it comes to PvP it isn't too good, the range is also kind of bad. That being said what is a good PvP weapon for a quality build? I'm currently rocking 40/40 so I can pretty much use anything.

>Using anything but the hollow slayer greatsword

That sword looks so fucking stupid though.

would have been nice if luck also increased crit chance, would have been worth putting points into even outside of luck builds.

Mah nigga

>Using anything other than Irithyll rapier

>using gay weapons

Are you gay?

I like a bit more thump to my hits

What's a good weapon for a pyromancer like me? Keep in mind my build is SL19

Raw astoras straight sword is what I use on my pyro build with witches locks as a secondary

>pyromancer build
>SL19
Raw Astora Straight Sword.

Profaned Greatsword regularly hits 1300 with the charged R2. The Astora GS is also bugged, with the rolling R1 being counted as thrust damage, and can easily hit 1400 on a counter hit with the Leo Ring.

Really? I beat the whole game so I can totally get late game gear as well you know

You don't wanna be putting points into str and dex with a pyro build so yea raw ass is the best

>Not using classy Irithyll weapons

Pleb spotted.

>12/12 INT and Faith
It's a really tough squeeze between that and my Avelyn user

>using homosexual weapons

Are you a homosexual?

use the knights crossbow with lightning bolts.

Dex is useless for everything except improving the damage of Dex scaling weapons.

Str is useless for everything except improving the damage of Str scaling weapons.

Luck still increases Bleed and Poison even when not being used on a weapon that scales with it. By default that makes it MORE useful than Dex or Str, as it's exactly the same thing but with an actually useful secondary effect.

I've only just beat DaSIII, out of all the Souls games I've had the most fun playing Demons Souls and I've gotten the most familiar with it's weapons and builds.

So has anyone figured out the most OP / "fun" build for DaSIII yet? I'm talking purely PvE, I don't care about PvP. In Demons Souls it was the Butcher Knife builds, Northern Ragalia Vitality builds, and the blessed weapon HP regen builds with LSOM as a secondary to slice through shields.

On my DaSIII playthrough I stuck with the Broadsword all the way through the entire game upgrading it all the way with a quality build and pretty much evenly matched str/dex and never had any problems.

>Butcher Knife
sorry, meant Meat Cleaver

Dark Sword is the boring but natural extension of that if you've few points in Luck or Faith. Solid damage, minimal stamina burn, quick attacks and the useful Stomp weapon art. Greatswords and UGS are basically worthless due to being easily interrupted and not having the advertised or expected range of weapons their size.

reminder that any viable weapon is meta memer OP shit

if you use any weapon that is capable of killing someone you're cancer and should fuck off out of my dark souls!!!!

UGS are amazing if you use the right ones. Greatswords... not so much. Both are more fun to use than straights, though.

I've been using the Lothric Greatsword recently.

It's really good, but I can't help but I feel I'm missing somehting. It's refined with 40/40 and I buff it with lightning pine resin, but is the Astora Greatsword any better? It's lighter, I know.

Dunno. The hyper armor on UGS' make make them lovely for trading with panicky R1 spamming host fuckbois.

That's a shame, I was messing around with the giant evangelist spiked mace and was constantly attacking too early because I overestimated its range. I just want a Meat Cleaver like in DeS, that thing had good range and its rolling R1 was fucking insanely useful when dealing with a gang of enemies. Between that and the LSOM it felt like DeS despite having fewer weapons and fewer attacks at least had a lot better and more varied and interesting weapons. I don't know, maybe it's just nostalgia too.

I wanted to use the UGS Greatsword brand Greatsword, but it's so damn slow and the minor damage increase doesn't offset its heavy stamina burn. Without poise, its just not very effective. The Farron Greatsword was actually pretty great just for its weapon art, and seems to trip up most invaders that really ought to know better by that point.

Astora GS weapon art is arguably better and it's half the weight

Lothric GS is plenty strong and still has a solid moveset though

Every fucking time I've been invaded so far they either try to gank me while I'm fighting something else or run away into an enemy when they're loosing. Even when I had 2 faggots chasing me with no back up. Also I never get any blue bros for some reason. I mean shit I was embered with way of the blue for like 60% of my first play through, but never got any help when I got invaded.

Is the Profaned Greatsword worth upgrading all the way? It's L2+R2 weapon art feels so damn good and the fire buff lasts a decent while afterwards.

Is it viable to make a build around it or are there better UGS or GS for pure damage for PvE?

Most UGS' have great hyper armor. Fume, Cathedral, Lorian, Lothric, Profaned... they all do extremely well.

I've never used "Greatsword", but I've seen people do fine in PvP with it.

Because I am using the MLGS.

Profaned is very good so yeah it's worth it, Slabs aren't that limited

it may be beaten by others but it wouldn't be by much, especially with the free buffs

Clearly I need to do some experimenting.

Chop chop motherfuckers.

What is a good amount of vig to stop at if you only make level 80-100 characters?

Is fire gem with fire clutch ring any good for SL19? Or should I just fire enchant the raw astora? Using the AGS atm

Because I hate how sheathes clip into cloaks.

I used the Dark Sword to beat a lot of the game, but I respec'd to use this. God, I love this sword.

Ideally 27, or 22 with the Prisoner's Chain ring.

>crit chance

The what now?

because straight swords are fucking boring and i'm not a pvp metafag

just use resins/carthus flame

element infusions are much weaker than raw/scaling + buffs

also clutch rings are pretty much trash, but maybe usable for super low level

Thanks, I was just wondering since I could push my Firelink GS to 413 with Power Within+WA with the clutch and I was wondering if I could do better at SL19

They buffed it recently and my god is it glorious. I'll gladly forget about the lack of AoE beam over the fact that it now has a fun and versatile moveset.

+10 Heavy Great Axe gets 599 AR at only 40 STR

That's absolutely ridiculous damage for just 40 stat points and the battle art takes it up to 649 AR. The 2H R1s have immense hyper armor and the rolling R1 has a massive hitbox.

Unfortunately you won't even break 500 AR with literally any other non-boss STR/heavy weapon.

crit dmg is what I meant.

Lothric Knight Greatsword hits over 600 on a 40/40.