>mfw I cringe remembering when many people on Sup Forums (including myself) were hyping up the "return" and "new golden age of WRPGs" thanks to Kickstarter >mfw all of them ended up mediocre and terrible
Let's break them down, shall we?
>Shadowrun (Dragonfall and Hong Kong) Gender and race selection literally don't effect the game in a meaningful way Linear as fuck iOS menus and design Terrible combat Nobody uses the creation tools because the games suck
>Wasteland 2 No true role playing thanks to the shitty party system No replay value due to the shit tier character building system Energy weapons are complete shit even with the best ones equipped Certain poorly designed combat sections make you resort to using LAWs and RPGs to win (the brothel)
>Pillars of Eternity Lore dump dialogue Bland and boring setting Terrible, nonsensical balance (no combat for EXP but the game is full of trash mob combat) Party relationships are complete shit (party members never do their own thing aka acting like real characters and not just your combat slaves)
Is this a gypsy curse? Can we do anything to help you user?
Blake Cruz
I thought PoE was ok, eventhough I absolutely hate RTWP. Love the other two/five.
Bentley Jones
>No true role playing thanks to the shitty party system I've heard people complain about the party system in Waseland 2 a lot, what's exactly wrong with it?
Luis Barnes
JUST
Jason Sanders
It's mostly fags complaining that the party system means there's no "protagonist" and therefore no roleplaying, because obviously you can't roleplay more than one character at a time.
Carson Nguyen
Four playable characters means they didn't write more than two dialogue options.
Lucas Mitchell
Wasteland 2 literally has no roleplaying
Ever played Fallout 1 or 2? How different things could happen if you had 1 intelligence or 10 or if you were male or female?
Yeah WL2 doesn't have that.
Brody Bailey
how many times are you gonna post this
Leo Adams
>I literally spent 40$ on Wasteland 2 and played 3 hours hoping it would get better
I actually beat it hoping it would get better. It didn't
Leo Jenkins
ayyyy
Sebastian Wright
Hi
Jonathan Clark
PoE is the closest modern gaming has come to re-creating classic CRPGs, if you don't like it then you probably never even played baldur's gate or NWN and you just hopped on the "i wanna be an epic oldfag gamer" train that Sup Forums has forced into the mind of the newer generation. And if you're seriously butthurt about the devs removing some stupid joke from a tombstone that no one ever read then you should probably just kill yourself immediately
Samuel Green
Wasteland 2 was great
Isaiah Barnes
>mfw I remember when this pasta was first posted >mfw no face
Carter Martin
Anyone tried Age of Decadence?
Jordan Rivera
BG1, and especially NWN1, are kind of mediocre.
Alexander Roberts
Huh makes u think
Shadowrun was fun OP, sorry you're autitic
Hudson Brooks
>play PoE >there's a windstorm that kills everything no matter what! >except for you
Uninstalled
Liam Wood
I found them all to be kinda lacklustre, but still decent experiences.
Divinity: OS is the only game out of this cRPG "revival" that was actually compelling and fun to play.
Jose Wright
>that color scheme nah... youre the only autist here
Jonathan Torres
>mfw special edition of every single one of them >mfw I like them more than overrated Baldur Shit
Jordan Gonzalez
you're not even trying
Noah Reed
I was about to say there was something wrong with that image but... nevermind
Noah Rogers
I've seen this pasta before
Carter Myers
The funniest part about that is that it never gets a real justification, just >you kinda had a strong soul, I guess?
Like, in this case even going with the chosen one explanation would have been better you surviving it with zero repercussions for no fucking reason whatsoever. It's not even related to you being a Watcher, your soul awakened 20 seconds later because Thaos just happened to be standing right in front of you, not because you survived a deadly soul storm.
Austin Hughes
But user, WL2 is meant to be a followup to WL1, not Fallout.
It's got more RPG shit than 1.
Noah Davis
What a load of shit, PoE is fucking garbage compared Baldur's Gate.
Nathan Evans
Whatever happened to Torment?
Jeremiah Cooper
You have good taste in games, user.
Jose Jenkins
Dragonfall reignited my passion for RPG, Hong Kong is kinda meh and both wasteland and pillars are shit
Brayden Martin
It's just PCucks starved for games PC Master Race shitters don't realize that the west hasn't made any decent games in a long time, and nothing good has ever came out of kickstarter
Hudson Walker
>The funniest part about that is that it never gets a real justification
The worst thing is that they kind of lead you on for a bit. The main quest, at least at first, tries to tackle why you of all people survived.
And then it went off the fucking rails.
Jacob Butler
Age of Decadence was good, go play it.
Camden Smith
>"the west"
Only literal weeaboos regurgitate this meme constantly
Eli Torres
Dragonfall was an excellent CRPG, In particular the Director's Cut. Hong Kong was a solid entry that was inferior to Dragonfall in story/choices department but a step up graphical and gameplay wise.
You are also factually wrong about Gender and Race not affecting the game. Both mechanically and story wise, Race affects the game. Gender changes a couple of options.
Educate yourself before spouting bullshit please.
Grayson Johnson
Its currently early access on steam in like an Alpha state. Has been for awhile, dunno when its release is. Last I remember they were wanting to have the game more or less complete by April and finish polishing it by the end of the year
Jack Carter
And "east" never had good games to begin with.
Nolan Anderson
>neo-Sup Forums having good taste >neo-Sup Forums actually playing games You came to the wrong neighborhood motherfucker!
Liam Walker
East has good arcade games and fighting games, West has actual good RPGs and FPS
John Bennett
>No true role playing thanks to the shitty party system Wew lad. You think the late 90s was the golden age of anything? Wasteland harkens back to the real golden age of RPGs. >No replay value due to the shit tier character building system That's not what determines replay value in the first place. >Energy weapons are complete shit even with the best ones equipped This is semi-true. They are far more specialized than they were in Wasteland. >Certain poorly designed combat sections make you resort to using LAWs and RPGs to win (the brothel) Git gud. My assault rifle rangers held their own and only very rarely needed support from the big guns.
10/10 bait, made me reply.
Ryder Hernandez
Any upcoming rpgs that look good?
Cameron Martin
Dragonfall was great though.
Josiah Harris
Man I thought this guy died or something
Keep it up wrpg-hater-kun
Adrian Sanders
We can all agree Returns was just above Garbage tier though, right?
Ian Peterson
...
Gabriel Reyes
Yeah, I remember it coming up in a few conversations as well as in some companion interaction, building up to some big reveal for most of the game. And then the dryads said you have an old soul, and everyone just collectively shrugged that yeah, that totally explains it,
The whole thing was painfully irrelevant to anything. It could have been an interesting hook if the storm kept hitting locations killing everyone but never harming you, or whatever. But since we had Thaos, the storm was redundant. Doing anything with it on top of the whole Saint's War/Hollowborn curse/gods conspiracy clusterfuck would have been too much. I just don't understand, if they did it to get rid of the tutorial companions, why not just let them get fried by the Engwithan machine like the Leaden Key agents instead of pulling something so contrived?
Samuel Ortiz
MORE LIKE SHADOWRUN REFUNDS AMIRITE
Wyatt Brown
>Buying a sequel to a game you never played in the first place >Especially when the game was heavily marketed that it was pandering to people who wanted another Wasteland What the fuck was your thought process? >Oh hey Brian Fargo! He was the CEO of that company that made Fallout 1 and 2 >Boy Fallout 3 sure wasn't what I was looking for >Oh wow, you mean they made a post apocalyptic RPG before Fallout? Well golly gee! This sequel must be the game I've been pining for!
Samuel Reed
Returns was pretty average, hell even below average
Dragonfall was amazing Hong Kong was GOTY 2015
Christopher Morris
>There are people right now in this thread that didn't even try Age of Decadence Free Demo.
Adam Collins
this.
people need to stop bitching about west vs east. they have their strengths. just play games you think are interesting.
Josiah Price
Hey man, Shadowrun was great. It's a shame it the community died out. Super fun game
Ian Hernandez
.Only friends and family have actually played it.
Hudson Torres
>Wasteland harkens back to the real golden age of RPGs.
Tell me more about how nonsensically stated/designed D&D clones were the "pinnacle" of RPGs, grandpa.
Cameron Hill
I considered that, but I'd rather just play the full game. Same reason I didn't play the SitS demo or buy Underrail during the Early Acccess. I'll get around playing it eventually, though.
Zachary Barnes
>>Buying a sequel to a game you never played in the first place
Protip: Nobody that played (and beat) Wasteland 1 gave money to Wasteland 2's Kickstarter
Evan Taylor
What the fuck are you even on about? Nobody played DnD clones back in the day. People rarely played DnD because it was a genuinely awful ruleset that as more editions came out became a hyper-convoluted chess clone than a game about using your imagination.
Robert Walker
A lot of people did.
But a shitload of Fallout 1 and 2 kiddies were likely the backbone.
Nathan James
>this copypasta again Boy OP sure does hate video games
Aiden Torres
>Nobody played DnD clones back in the day
Nigger what
Just look at any given list of 90s cRPGs, at least 75% of them have Dungeons & Dragons on the cover above the title. Hell, practically every Infinity Engine game is based on DnD, and the only major exception to that was Fallout being based on GURPS.
Levi Cox
>But a shitload of Fallout 1 and 2 kiddies were likely the backbone.
That's a hilariously retarded thing to say. Why are you mad that FO1 and FO2 are not only better, but were more popular than Cuckland 1?
Jeremiah Russell
He's a dumb cuck who has literally never heard of Eye of the Beholder
Robert Gonzalez
I should fellate you for being so fucking on point.