This shit releases next month on the PS quadruple, PS tripple and PS shit...

This shit releases next month on the PS quadruple, PS tripple and PS shit. lt looks like a mit of Neptunia and Harvest Moon. l know at least some of you weebs hsvr played this series before, so tell me if it's actually better than the shit that is Neptunia.

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>Neptunia
>Comparing atelier to nepenep
They're both anime as fuck but Atelier has good gameplay to back it up

It's not coming out on the ps3 in the west.
But yes I like atelier.
It's a game that consists of gathering items to synthesis them together to make items like bombs and potions to use in battle.

It's nothing like Neptunia aside from having cute girls.
Atelier focus on character development and item crafting. The stories are very simple, often with no evil enemy to defeat or anything like that. Each party members (which include male characters, it's not an all-male cast) have their own little story. The battle tends to be easy aside from optional bosses, but there's still depth to the guide as you need to craft the proper equipment and items (Both for healing and attacking) to win. In the previous games there was a time limit to also have you schedule your stuff properly, but it's gone now so I don't know how they balanced it, maybe they made the battles harder to compensate. The games are also somewhat non-linear, often giving you multiple things to do with no order in which to do them and having multiple endings.

Fuck this guy though

Atelier is nothing like Neptunia and really needs to stop being compared to it. The series is way more tasteful and there's a whole lot less shitty fan-service and pandering. The only people that think they're the same are underage retards that think anything with cute girls is the same. It has much better gameplay than Neptunia.

>less shitty fan-service and pandering
>less pandering
HAHAHAHAHAHA

It's true though.

It's actually worse than Neptunia. The girls aren't even cute, it runs horrible on the Vita and they all have stupid names / hats.

Nope. It's fucking shit. Shit battle system, the crafting system is convoluted as fuck and makes no fucking sense whatsoever. The characters are equally shitty as Neptunia characters, and there's not even multiple endings

Ciel & Ar Nosurge were the first Gust games I ever played, and I loved the story. Will I like this? Should I consider the other Ateliers before Sophie?

that last one is a huge fucking lie
unless you are so fucking bad that you got the bad ending, which locks you out of other endings

When's the PC port?

have any of you played the ps1 games or anything before arland?

worth it or no?

The Mana Khemia ps2 games are generally pretty well liked. They're closer to traditional JRPGs and have decent combat.

The stuff before Iris is some extreme shit

Ateliers are far less story focused than the nosurge games, but they're still enjoyable.
You can play Sophie without playing the other ateliers.
Maybe go back and play the others if you like Sophie?

The early games were Japan-only but from what I've seen they had a similar formula to the Arland games. During the PS2 era we got the Iris games and the Mana Khemia games. They're not bad games, but they're not like the other Atelier games. They tried to get the regular JRPG players by having male protagonists and more linear, saving-the-world stories, so they're more like other JRPGs, altough they still have item crafting.

I complained when they do it, but now I miss Gust reusing asset and design.

my ps3 collection is still sealed and i don't want to break the seal so i can't play them

Get them digital.

>KT ports
You're better off never getting it at all.

I imported atelier sophie a few months ago, there's absolutely no fanservice in the game

The Arland series is cute girls doing cute things with detailed item creation and a seemingly simple battle system that becomes quite complex when paired with the effects of the items you use. (For example, purposely killing off a character with a support defend in order to let them be revived the next turn by an automatically repeating healing item.)
Rorona and Meruru both didn't have much story and were almost all slice of life antics, Totori actually had a pretty touching story with a very dividing true ending.
The Dusk games dumbed down the item creation while making the combat more complex, and have more serious stories. I haven't played Shallie let but while I loved Ayesha, E&L was shit.

In any case they're great games with optimisation issues that put gameplay first and have charming characters and amazing music to top it off. They're nothing like Neptunia that has nothing but shallow grinding and one-dimensional moeblobs in the cast. And Neptunia's music is fucking horrid.

Mana Khemia is fun as hell but like says, they're more like traditional JRPGs and alchemy is a lot simpler so it may not be as well liked by someone who've only played arland and up.

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The games have had swimsuit DLC for ages. The real problem with Sophie is the book's default outfits being so heavily sexualised compared to previous games, especially in the promotional artwork.

>DLC
okay I haven't bought any of that

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oh look it's an american triggered by anything sexual

This. To me it reeks of desperation.

Who has the worse design between Sophie and Firis?

It's not like making ateliers sexy or having boob bounce is anything new

I don't recall saying it was. Desperation is frequently not very innovative at all.

that sounds interesting as fuck.

would anyone like to buy this for me?

This one isn't DLC. And the game having DLC swimsuits before isn't an excuse, it's still fanservice.

I'm neither american nor triggered. He said there was no fanservice in the game, I'm just saying that's wrong. I never said it's a bad thing.

I don't think it's a conscious decision to make it sexier, it's just the designers. There's two designers working on the game and all the sexy designs come from Yuugen. Noco's designs are pretty good.

Firis' design is a mess. Sophie's red and green outfit is adorable. Her white and yellow outfit is not good but not terrible either.

Her outfit is fine. I don't even see it as fan-service. I don't know why people always get bothered with things like that. Maybe it's me but it just never even registers as "her being sexualized". I don't buy the game because "huur cute girl in lewd outfit".

The new artist blows dick. Where's the old one? Why didn't they get raita?

I like fapping to Atelier r34

They get a new artist every new saga or whatever you want to call it

The old one (Hidari/dusk) is working on Toukiden 2.

They change artists for every new setting
>Raita
Nigga are you crazy

Didn't the same guy make arland and dusk?

>it's still fanservice.
so there's a few costumes, but the entire game is absolutely tame. There's no milking anything or fanservice in your face.

Even the original metroid had you see samus in underwear when you die and I wouldn't even call that fanservice

Not him but, I think the outfit itself is fine in-game and works well with as making her look appear unusual and magical (Considering she comes from a book). But the first pictures we saw of her were through artworks that were putting a lot of emphasis on her ass, tits and vagina bones, making the design seem more sexualized than it actually is, and it gave a bad impression.

>The new artist blows dick.
There's two artist working on the game, Yuugen and Noco.

>Where's the old one?
Which one? The series has been through four artists before.

m8, it's time for the ateliers to have some fucking tits.

No Kishida Mel did Arland and Hidari did Dusk

The art styles don't even look similar, how could you think they're the same dudes?

Noco and Yuugen have been great so far. I don't know what you're on.

You may have vision problems then.

>The art styles don't even look similar, how could you think they're the same dudes?
Because I usually have only 2 opinions. One is "I can fap to it" and the other one is "why the fuck did they hire that piece of shit".

>Noco and Yuugen have been great so far.

>Firis has the worst design in the entire series

Now, now. Cat Shallie is the worst. Firis is merely second worst.

You can tell the difference in care between Atelier and Neptunia from the opening animation alone. Neptunia's opening "animation" can only be considered an animation because technically speaking, still images moving around the screen is animation. Meanwhile Atelier has actual opening animation with songs that are generally much better than Neptunia's songs.

Then you have things like Atelier trying to have more expressive cut scene dialogue with later entries while Neptunia sticks with animated VN portraits. Simply put, Neptunia is low budget at the extreme of low budget while still being a professional game.

What the other guy said. One of the first pieces of promo artwork we got for Sophie showed the book's outfit barely covering her vagoo. The promo artwork we saw was very heavily sexualised. Pic related isn't the one I'm thinking of, but it's another one of the earliest pieces of promo material we got for the game. It's very clear that they chose to market it quite differently to how they handled the previous Atelier games.

>Her white and yellow outfit is not good but not terrible either.
It's really fucking bad. I'm fine with her other outfit but this one is just plain terrible.

You can change back to the cute green and red one, right?

>market game as overly sexualized so filthy otakus buy an actually good game for once
nice

Well it's the best selling atelier game to date in japan i heard so i guess it worked

>filthy otakus
And you think you're any better?

Firis' hairdo is a bane for every heroine design and should only be allowed for NPC.

I shower once a week, so yeah

I guess that's true, but Cat Shallie is only half the protagonist so it only count as half a shit design. Meanwhile, Firis is the sole main character, yet has terrible designs, so she counts for double.

Is it coming on the Vita?

I don't see it amazon.

Opinions on beeg anime teetees aside, Raita's designs for Valkyria Chronicles were genuinely great. I wouldn't mind seeing him do Atelier.

Marketing being sexualized is nothing new.

yes
digital only

female Weiss seems kinda chunky

There's a lot of other changes in Sophia that contributes to that so it's not like that's the only reason. Escha & Logy tried to market to them too and it didn't work.

Hmm. I wonder how the performance is. The vita versions of these games usually have pretty bad slowdown at least in some areas.

>There's two artist working on the game, Yuugen and Noco.
And they both blow dick. But Noco is easily the better of the two.

Plachta and Firis have bad designs because they're designed by Yuugen, who's a man. Men have never made good art for Atelier (Look at Futaba's work for the Iris series... the designs are OK but the artwork is terribly generic). Sophie and Firis's sister look better because they were designed by Noco who's a woman.

Yeah I've been following the game since it first was announced and I've never had problems with these. I don't like fan-service either but I don't see anything wrong with a few sexy illustrations of Plachta. The actual game is very tasteful and isn't fully of breast groping/comparison scenes or anything like that. Maybe they did hope a few extra dumb horny otaku would buy it because of this though. I still wouldn't put this anywhere near CH levels of sexual fan-service and promotional material.

>interior pleated shorts and empire waist tube top
What the hell is going on here?

>Cat Shallie is the worst.
She's bad, but Sophie outdid her.
And Firis' hair is fine, her problem is the stupid shoes where she has thigh-high boots AND thigh-high socks under them which both have these cutouts in the shins and calves. It looks absurd.

>implying arland designs are bad
>shit talking Kishida mel

Even her face is saying "What the fuck am I wearing"

Do you like the Arland designs?

I want to sexualize Rorona

if you buy this game because you want fan service, you're gonna have a 99% bad time

Kishida is an elementary schoolgirl

Not him but I really like Firis' design, minus her dumb boots.

Not sure if it got patched post launch, but this is the video people were posting of it right when it came out:
youtube.com/watch?v=MY0YK2eA-ZU

I recall people analysing the style of presentation between the two games, specifically that Atelier has 3/4 portraits to portray the characters speaking to each other in cutscenes, while Neptunia's portraits face straight forward, always looking at the player.
Even putting that aside Neptunia's presentation is pretty terrible with how they reuse background CGs and there's never any events actually being shown outside of a small handful of event CGs, so they have to talk about what's supposed to be going on at any time. Even Atelier attempts to show events with the models.

I already miss dusk's artist

She drew godlike hands and feet

She looks like the girl from that dumb meme anime

>I don't like fan-service either but I don't see anything wrong with a few sexy illustrations of Plachta. The actual game is very tasteful and isn't fully of breast groping/comparison scenes or anything like that.
We didn't know how the game would turn out when it was revealed. Back when it was revealed a lot of people on Sup Forums and /jp/ were bothered by the illustrations specifically because of their sexualised marketing.
If you go back and look at the promo materials for the Dusk and Arland games, they're absolutely nothing like what Sophie did. It was unprecedented. That's why people were bothered by it, it's not that hard to understand.

I think Firis's, Sophie's, and Lotte's outfits are fine. I just don't get bothered by the over-designed unrealistic nature of them. It's a fantasy game and Atelier girls always have these crazy frills and trinkets all over them.

Is no one going to question the way this post was written?

No? Why would you?

>It has much better gameplay than Neptunia.

While I agree with mostly everything else you said... one thing I don't agree is gameplay. Atelier games typically have a weaker battle system than Neptunia games. Tho Atelier games do have better story and the games are very different.

Also both focus on cute girls.

>It was unprecedented

Its too bad. I love playing games on the old Vita. Already have Odin Sphere preordered for it.

That wasn't a promotional image, buddy. This was.

When people say they dislike Sophie's design do they mean just the white one? Do people dislike this one too? I think it's adorable and honestly one of my favorite design. I'm going to have her wear this all game.

Yeah, I see what you're saying. I guess I just didn't think Gust would go and fuck the game up with excessive sexual fan-service or anything.

I like both designs, but i'm pretty easy to please so

Is astrid actually a femboy?

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>Pages of the artbook are the same as the promo material for the game's reveal

Yeah. It's not like I'm saying Atelier is an amazing game series, but it simply tries much harder and does much more than Neptunia that it's unfair to put it on the same level.