Which Final Fantasy was more disappointing, 8 or 13?

Which Final Fantasy was more disappointing, 8 or 13?

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I didn't play VIII till much later, so XIII. I thought that game was going to be incredible. And it even got fantastic reviews.

Then I played it and kept thinking "It's gonna get better, right...?"

When I played VIII I had liked Squall for a long time and thought his design was really cool, then I played the game and very quickly hated the fuck out of him.

Design is still kinda cool though, same with Lightning.

XIII. VIII was infuriating instead.

13 hands down.

8 is the best FF

But I was disappointed by neither. I love VIII AND XIII. The Junction system in VIII is kind of cool and I adore the overall battle system in XIII. It puts more emphasis on timing.

8 was one of the best. Top 3 easy.

I had a love hate relationship with XIII, while going through VIII was agony. I took a long vacation with the game downloaded on my PSP and I was pretty much shooting to just get it over with after disk two, even though I stopped for some of the side quests like Odin.

Well, let's see:

Final Fantasy VIII was quite possibly the biggest launch in FF's history except for the likely big launch of FF XV coming up.

It went right after what many consider the best FF game (and undeniably the most popular one)

It was marketed to hell, far more than FF VII was, due to the stupid amounts of cash Square got for FF VII.

Release: It was just above average. Wasn't the second coming of christ like people expected it to. Sold poorly compared to FF VII. Most still thought it was alright though, and while a slight dissapointment, still a good game

FFXIII on the other hand...

It came out after FFXII, while it's my favorite FF it's possibly the most hated one (at the time) and many thought the series had gone on decline after the massive success of FFX not being followed up by either XI or XII.

It was basically one of the big 'next gen' games at the time and much like FFVIII it was marketed to hell and back. It also had the best graphics at the time which gave it a big marketing boost. It was also marketed as a return to form for FF that gave those wanting more FFX a boner.

Release. It's below average. FF fans hate it. Non-FF fans hate it. It was linear, mediocre, the battle system was even more hated than FF XII, it was awful, just about everyone thought it was the blunder of the century. It sold like hot cakes regardless.

Worst game is arguable. But most dissapointing? FF XIII, by far.

Why did Rinoa even care about Squall fucking seriously

7

Girls love losers who lose against alpha males in the duels and get scars, right?

8 got fucking shit after disc 2, i haven't played anything so disappointing

Only thing stopping me from playing the game is the Draw system, I fucking hate that shit.

8 because I already went into 13 with low expectations.

8 had:
an unbearable cast
horrible ways to get magic (drawing or the card game)
a card game where the AI cheats
a poorly written love story
the plot went full retard, even by FF standards, on disc 3
levelscaling when no other FF had it

>FF8 sold poorly
fucking what, it's widely know that it out sold 7, which is to say before subsequent releases anyway.

this is widely found information.
It was review extremely well also. while some had an issue with junction MOST didn't

VIII is really not that bad, XIII is way worse.

12, obviously.
It's the reason why we got the 13 shittology.

Both games have linear and dull combat.

However, VIII's narrative is rich and rewarding because it can be interpreted with consistency. XIII is only occasionally coherent, and lacks VIII's sophistication.

But XII is the best one.

>VIII's narrative is rich and rewarding

>VIII's narrative is rich and rewarding

It's the very definition of cancer.
And if you liked it, you are the reason for the downfall of JRPGs.

I finished 8. Stop playing 13 after first boss.

I am not here to tell which is better/worse. I might just getting old and jaded when starting 13.

Why?

Are you confused because I'm not repeating memes about how VIII makes no sense and the writers must've been hacks who made it all up during a coffee break?

user,i hope you understand that not liking FF12 is a mark of a true pleb ?

VIII was a mess. The Laguna shit is shoehorned in without being important at all, 2/3 of the cast is completely flavorless, and we're supposed to just lay down and take it when the game tries to sell us on the idea of a school for mercenary children in a world where only two city states exist. (as far as everyone knows)

I doubt you are old enough to have been disappointed when 8 came out.

I think he is confused at the bullshit statement of "VIII's narrative is rich and rewarding"

that's like saying "MGS2's narrative is rich and rewarding" when it's also a clusterfuck and a bad game compared to the previous entry in the series

Are you dumb?

Please do not liken MGS2 to that of FFVIII. Jack and Rose may have been equally insufferable, but at least by the end of the game they are still decent characters who act like actual human beings.

8 Got fucking shit after the intro.

>but at least by the end of the game they are still decent characters who act like actual human beings.

Rose was a bitch so early on I ended up skipping anything she said like half an hour into Big Shell

and Raiden was so unbearable/un-likeable/not decent in 2 that it took fucking MGR to make him a decent person

Both

He was the best looking guy in the party and women only want Chad.

I like 8

drawing never bothered me too much, and I would sit there drawing to 100 on every one I could, wish there was a way to make it less tedious tho
I liked the junction system
the story was alright, I didn't hate it

8 was fine.

It had some of the best FF moments, locations and music.

You know you can transform items into magic, right?

don't need very specific items and refine skills to get the spells you want?

Like cottages and refine life magic to get Curagas on disc 1?

Truth is, looking back on the ff games.
The only decent one is 6. The rest if them are designed 12 year olds. Which was fine, but the fact that they are degrades the seriousness that they so brazingly try to be portray.

yea I know but early game I was drawing everying
the point I was making was drawing didn't bother me

6 wasn't very serious either. Characters act like man children for a good 70% of the game.

The dreams about Laguna act as premonitions about what Squall is about to face next. FFVIII likes the idea of cyclical time, and Squall and Laguna are an example of a non-literal loop where Squall stands for Laguna and Rinoa for Julia, (literally their descendants) and Ellone's involvement creates a new timeline where Laguna and Julia get together.

Also, FFVIII is fiction, the locations are part of the narrative and extensions of Squall's character that reflect his current situation and/or mental state. The game is specifically focused on Squall, he is the most important character and that's why most of the supporting characters are not portrayed with comparable complexity.

In fact, part of the problem in FVIII and FFXIII is that characters were often too serious, and other characters were bland tropey anime characters to compensate.

>The only decent one is 6.
Literally stopped reading there.
The only good FF games are FFT, FFX, FF3, and FF5.

>The only decent one is 6.
I wany Kefkafags to go

I'll give you tatics.

Those games are legendary.

>5
>good
Job system was the only decent thing about it

XIII. VIII had highschool shit but still felt like a FF. XIII was just pure, undiluted shit.

What the fuck was the idea behind leveling making VIII more difficult?

The scaling system was so unbalanced that the best way to play the game was to minimize exp gain. IMAGINE THAT, AN RPG WHERE YOU SHOULDN'T LEVEL UP

FF7 was weird as hell with shit like Honey Bee Inn, Cait Sith, Hell Houses and such just slapped on there like they were all perfectly normal. FF8 tried to clean the weird stuff up and ended up being too serious for its own good.

No.

Correct and XII would have been up there if the creator didn't have a meltdown.

Probably 8.

Important to note the question is disappointing, not bad. 13 is far worse. But 8 followed 7, which like it or hate it was the biggest hit the FF franchise ever had, and it was huge at the time. 13 followed 12, which was well received but not a huge hit. Which itself followed 11, which was barely in anyone's mind. Some considered the franchise dead after X-2 and 11 came out.

youtube.com/watch?v=KDGMU6sdVBE

Listing 3 as one of the best is just being contrarian at this point.

>FF8 tried to clean the weird stuff up
>a witch from the future is possessing people in the past
>a gigantic flying monolith pulls monsters down from the moon
>all time is compressed to a single point
>a wingled lion is manifested from someone's memories

My favorite thing about tactics is that I was pretty overwhelmed when I first started it, think it had too much going on and I was unsure of every decision I made
but eventually it clicks and you don't even have to think you just know exactly what you want to do and you manipulate that formerly overwhelming game's systems to work for you and it's the best feeling

the neat story is just a bonus

Neither it's 6 and 12 that are shitty disappointments.

8. that doesn't mean its bad though.

8's main flaw when it was released was 'its not 7-2!'

13 came after the critically mediocre 12, so the bar wasn't as high. 13 isn't really compared to other installments because there was such a long time gap

None of those are wacky and non-serious.

But XII was pretty well recieved critically?
metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/final-fantasy-xii

XIII was a disappointment because it was so hyped and the expectations were set high /because/ XII wasn't received well
everyone had the mentality that this was going to be different, it's a new era of HD and the Cell and leading up to it's release it seemed like it would be great
and it wasn't
it was a huge disappointment

it wasn't when it came out. many of the meme arguments against it used today like 'it plays itself' and 'its too hard to follow the story' were serious criticisms back in 06

FF13 is what killed the hype gland in my heart. At best i let myself have cautious optimism, which at the moment only Civ 6 has

Ok, FF8 is a different flavor of weird, but most definitely not that flavor of weird where you are bathing together with a bunch of dudes.

I still haven't tried the following ff: 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 12

what would be the best order to cover them? should i skip any of those?

to stay on topic, i really disliked 13, 13-2 and 13-3, but cannot compare them to 8 since i've never seen it

I was let down by XIII yet here I am again hype as fuck for XV
i can't help it

I was disappointed with FFVII

I owbed Die Hard Trilogy and Syphon Filter and a friend wanted to trade me games. I got FFVII and Bushido Blade from him and he got my games. Bushido Blade was cool, but FFVII bring my first JRPG left me disappointed as fuck. ATB system is boring as shit and some attacks took way to long animation wise. Not to mention the characters sounded retarded, especially Barret who has some made up dialect that I've never heard of.

7, it was 6 but stripped down then diluted for the masses.

Given the general age range of anons on Sup Forums, was there anyone here who had expectations for a video game released in 1999?

Tactics is better than all those, play it if you haven't yet.

They're both shit, but if given an option, I'd rather play 8

I had expectations for Sonic Adventure since I hated Sonic 3D Blast

>riding the "FF8 was bad" bandwagon

When will this meme end and how dare you compare the slightly underwhelming 8 to downright garbage 13?

3: Not worth playing unless you want a harder version of 5

4: DS version is balls to the wall hard. FF4 is the best starter 2D FF imho. Its a simple story yet a memorable one. The music when Cecil turns into a Paladin still gives me chills

5: raw gameplay with a saturday morning cartoon story

6: argued as the best one by many. do not expect a challenge if you have ever played a JRPG before. still worth playing because of many memorable moments and characters, especially Kefka

8: the black sheep of the PS1 trio. play nothing like 7. its also the easiest or the among the hardest FFs depending on how well you can break it

9: 9 is a fanservice game. don't play it till after you've played the previous installments

12: if you liked tactics story, you'll love 12's. satisfying to play as both a casual just for main story and ultra grindan adventure for its super boss, the notorious yiazmat

should i emulate the original for playstation or try the war of the lions port on my phone?

And to think there are Sonic 3D Blast apologists.

Neither, I actually enjoyed them both because I'm not a bitter faggot who has to be pissed off 24/7.

>>riding the "FF8 was bad" bandwagon
Let them be. Do you really want a rmk of VIII made by neo-square?
The VII is a fucking abomination, I rather not see a VIII remake.

3D Blast was cancer

Sonic Adventure was fun when it was released

time to tackle them then, thanks. I hope in the meantime they'll release a port of 12 for pc, the others are all easily obtainable

although with 15 and 7 (1-2-3) on the horizon i don't see em having much time for a port

I'd recommend the patched PSP version but the emulator is fine, just don't play it on the phone.

but 8 deserves it more than 7 with the broken junction system

Plus Quistis in 1080p nigger what are you doing

>9 is a fanservice game. don't play it till after you've played the previous installments
which ones should I Play before playing 9
I'm about to play it
I've only ever played 6,7,8 and tactics

8 was gr8

Your choice of words make you seem both pissed and bitter.

>wanting more no turn based FF
just kill yourself user. that way you will awake in Balamb.

1. the last 10% of the game is just FF1 reference after another.

not everyone can do the NES era JRPGs though, so i don't blame you if you don't want to

>which ones should I Play before playing 9
1 and 4, for sure.

i meant 9

13. I fucking loved 8. 13 made pretty much everyone I knew who liked FF to stop liking it.

VIII is underapreciated; is the best Final Fantasy, you can say the story is too convulated but japanese literature is writtten that way about the concept and there is no need to be coherent,

>slightly underwhelming
When will the underage stop shitposting?

I was raised on the NES and still have it
it is no problem
what is the best version to play?

12 was a fucking great game Port when?
Vuck Fann

>if you liked tactics story, you'll love 12's
Don't you fucking lie to him, user. That's just mean. 12 doesn't even have a story.

9 was the most disappointing.

8 was the last good in the series.

Sweet, sweet release.

I'd consider emulating the original, but with a War of the Lions patch.

It'll fix the translation and re-balance a lot of the more useless jobs/classes/abilities.