Blizzard has released three great games in two years

>Blizzard has released three great games in two years
>Valve hasn't released a single game in three years (and their last game was a copy/paste of an established mod)

Why do we prefer Valve over Blizzard again?

>Blizzard has released three great games in two years

valve single handed saved pc gaming with steam

thats it, they dont need to launch games anymore, their contribution to gaming is already huge

>Blizzard has released three great games in two years

What timeline is this?

We got black mesa last year though

>Blizzard has released three great games in two years

>Valve saved PC gaming by letting people sell RPGMaker garbage, unfinished games, and indieshit
Valve irreparably damaged the image of PC gaming as a whole. Prove me wrong.

>>Blizzard has released three great games in two years

>last time valve released a new ip was 7,5 years ago

When are Blizzdrones getting a containment board?

Why am I thinking that 95% of the Overshit threads are made by shills?

It's just Team Fortress+MOBA+FPS.

It's an okay game, nothing more.

an unfinished mod

>Diablo 3 on consoles is actually better than playing on PC
>Diablo 3 on PC still requires an internet connection at all times
>Consoles don't

What a great PC experience.

Alien Swarm came out in 2010

except memewatch is TF2 copy/paste

standalone remake of a mod =/= new ip

>>Blizzard has released three great games in two years
>Three
>Great

Are you seriously defending the new WOW expansion?
The one that killed Garosh and made it a mobile game?

>three great games in two years
[citation needed]

overwatch doesnt really feel like a moba

no leveling, skills to evolve, gear to use

and moba is like cocaine to me, but overwatch did not affect me at all

Blizzard makes video games.

Valve hasn't made a video game in 9 years (orange box)

Blizzard may take over 12 years to finally release a sequel to one of their games (Starcraft, Diablo 2) and sure, it causes controversy (Diablo 3 is fucking garbage) but at least they released it.

Valve is a third party software distributor who got out of the business of making games years ago, when they realized they can manipulate markets and make literally billions of dollars by doing N O T H I N G A T A L L.

>Blizzard has released three great games in two years
Amazing, top work lad.

by that logic dota2 came out in 2013

>Valve hasn't made a video game in 9 years (orange box)
Dota?

>Blizzard has released three great games in two years
Blizzard has never released a good game. The only good game Valve has ever released is the original Half-Life. Valve is only marginally better than Blizzard.

>valve single handed saved pc gaming with steam
Ah, the immense ignorance.

Seconded
Not to mention Blizzard now a shell of what it was, and now focuses on shitting out marketable shite.

>Blizzard has released three great games in two years

Because Valve is basically a market platform now, while Blizzard is stuck developing games.

>Blizzard makes video games.
Name just one that they've released in the past 5 years. And mind you, if it has a certain amount of cinematics or money spent into CGI graphics, it's not a game anymore. It's now classified as a movie, just like TLOU or Uncharted.

pc gaming is about choices

you choose to buy shitty games, its not valve's fault, the choice is yours bro

there are thousands of games on steam and this is great, there is a space for everyone, not only the triple aaa two billion dollars games

>Valve hasn't made a video game in 9 years (orange box)
>What is L4D
>What is L4D2
>What is Portal 2
>What is Dota 2
>What is CS:GO

I'm not defending Valve, but saying that they haven't made a game since orange box makes you a complete retard.

>has a similar game mode
>has a few heroes that play somewhat like a few of a few of the classes in TF2
>ultimately plays nothing like TF2
>COPY PASTE HURP DURP IVE NEVER PLAYED IT

it's a moba in the sense that everyone gets an IWIN button and feels special even if they're shit

whereas in tf2 individual skill is a lot more important

Yeah, I meant parts of it by having skills like in a normal MOBA.

I'm annoyed by all these threads about it, why can't they use /vg/ for it?

>Tencent has released three knock off games in two years

Overwatch is great. Meanwhile valve is being the ultimate jew with their hats, skins, trading and gambling garbage.

>Overwatch is great
Shame you can't filter namefags.

they're both shit and two of the biggest reasons pc gaming gets worse every year

because sony and microsoft are doing such a great job of making console gaming appealing, right? both consoles have like 3 must-own exclusives between them.

How much does Blizzard pay you?

>I don't like game

Cool

>Meanwhile valve is being the ultimate jew with their hats, skins, trading and gambling garbage.

but thats exactly how blizzard will keep overwatch alive in the long run

it angers me how they charged so much for a game that will be swarmed with micro transactions in no time

All Valve games are shit.

Blizzard made Warcraft 3.

Hmmmm..let's see who's the better company..

wut

Did you forget that you can now buy gold and max level characters in WoW now?

Valve doesn't dumb down their games for casuals or sell themselves out for sales. Blizzard has corrupted PC gaming with it's awful design choices and downright greedy business practices.

Honestly, only Valve remains as THE PC gaming publisher. They only make games once in awhile, but when they do they knock it out of the park. Besides, their games age like wine while Blizzard games age like milk, milk that's already gone bad at release.

People who shittalk Valve are retards who aren't looking at the bigger picture. Shit like Dota 2 pretty much sets the standard for video games. Challenging and rewarding gameplay with a completely fair business model.

Honestly, I'd rather a company not make games anymore and just support the games they have out already, than just continue pumping out one bad game after another.

paid in cum

They're paying him in Overwatch Crates. If the work is good, he gets a Hearthstone booster pack.

Right now it's just loot crates and I don't see that changing. There isn't even trading in overwatch and all new characters and maps will be free.

I still don't like the paying for loot crates but if it makes characters and maps free I'll accept it.

Warcraft 3 was dog shit

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Valve doesn't sell themselves out for sales.

I'm not defending wow.

Didn't know you could buy gold officially though.

is this some delusional reddit pasta or something?

Saying that Valve are jews, but Blizzard somehow aren't is about the most Blizzdrone shit you can say.

>Shit like Dota 2 pretty much sets the standard for video games. Challenging and rewarding gameplay with a completely fair business model.

to be fair, valve only nailed the fair business model part

the game itself was already created and had a huge playerbase

moar

Valve released a game a few months ago idiot

They don't. Dota 2 is true to the original and CS:GO is the best FPS on the market.
There's nothing delusional about being right.

it sucks that valve got wrapped up in VR, hardware and OS bullshit, but source 2 is near complete so i'm hopeful that the new games are going to start rolling out.

keep in mind valve also have three of the most played multiplayer games on pc under their belt. csgo, dota, tf2. and in the past they had cs:source, cs1.9, hl1dm, tfc, hl2dm. i think it's safe to include gmod there too as a lot of valve's work went into that.

I never chose to have the market be flooded by every "me too!" shit peddler with a credit card and access to the Unity store. If Valve wants to retire as a virtual marketplace then more power to them. But if that's what they want to do they should at least put some pride in their work and provide some quality control.
No one can name or find quality PC exclusives anymore because the market has been saturated by indieshit and early access "games."
Steam is proof that not everyone deserves space on the market, because for every one good PC game on the market there are 100 garbage titles that push the good games off the storefront because ironic memesters like upvoting tits and broken physics.

Maybe if Blizzard hired Icefrog instead of laughing him out they could have been as successful as Valve, but nope, they are jews and will die like jews. Overwatch is a flop and so is that shitshow of a movie. We're witnessing Square Enix 2.0 here.

They destroyed it you fucking pleb. They have a monopoly and PC games are more expensive than they've ever been

>the game itself was already created
Umm no. Just because the design rules are clear - doesn't mean that "the game is already created". There's a lot more to game development than ideas.

Blizzard is 10x worse.

>but source 2 is near complete
Dota 2 is already running it.

Now they'll make stuff for it I'd guess.

>No one can name or find quality PC exclusives anymore because the market has been saturated by indieshit and early access "games."
And Blizzard's selection of games is any different? Games like Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 are such broken trash that they might as well have never left alpha testing. And Overwatch has the quality control of these same "indieshit" games.

>Overwatch is great
opinion
and a bad one at that
>Meanwhile valve is being the ultimate jew
both companies are run by jews and should go under
anybody that plays valve or blizz games should be thrown in a gas chamber desu

This remedial level of deflecting makes you sound like a hardcore valvedrone.
I didn't say anything about consoles. Valve makes PC gaming look bad regardless of consoles.

What a beta. I wish I was him.

>three great games

According to whose standards? Get the fuck outta here. Blizzard has released 3 asset changes of established mods.

>PC games are more expensive than they have ever been

Kek nah your a dumb noob that isn't true at all

Valve was actually a piece of shit that forced you to download Steam if you wanted to play cs 1.6

It was annoying and slow, took forever to update on 56k and was nothong more than a downloaded server browser.

Valve was shit and became what they are today by pissing people off.

Edgy falseflagging Blizzdrone.

>blizzard has microtransactioned the shit out of the industry for years
>has destroyed expansion packs and reduced what they once meant

>valve provided huge competition to stores to cut prices for pc gamers
>continues to provide great service

Blizzcvcks kek

Valve has saved gaming by allowing loli content on their platform.

How the fuck does overwatch have the qc of indie games? Explain that one to me.

Well most people who have tried the beta like it and think it's fun so I guess loads of people here and everywhere have a shit opinion.

Valve rapes blizzard fuck off edgy shit

>>Diablo 3 on consoles is actually better than playing on PC

Why do you keep deflecting? Despite this thread, I don't give two shits about Blizzard. All I care about is how Valve and Steam have gone to shit, and through Steam's ubiquity, PC gaming has gone to shit.

>Blizzard has never released a good game. The only good game Valve has ever released is the original Half-Life. Valve is only marginally better than Blizzard.
I can't wait to see what video games you actually like.

>killing WON
>saved pc gaming

>How the fuck does overwatch have the qc of indie games?
No consistency with characters, terrible optimization (20 tick rate for starters, letting people pay for loot crates instead of forcing them to play the game like they should), focusing too much on youtube cinematics instead of putting that time and money into the game, for starters.

Valve destroys Blizzard on every front, they also make far more money. You see how Blizzard had to shill the shit out of Overwatch just to sell it while Valve makes more off of just compendiums for a game with no advertisements but instead a strong and loyal playerbase?
That's built off the respect Valve gives it's customers while Blizzard has earned the scorn of it's customers by constantly jewing them and destroying beloved franchises.

If the mods weren't so deep in ActiBlizzards pockets we wouldn't be seeing so many Blunderwatch threads. We need to send these mindless degenerates to a containment board and keep Sup Forums degenerate free.

But that would make Overwatch require skill?

Valve PUBLISHED the following games:

L4D
L4D2 (Which released 8 months after L4D, an obvious cash grab)
DOTA 2 (DOTA is based directly off of Blizzard's WC3)
CS:GO (Made by Hidden Path.)


Portal was created by a final year group of university students and impressed Valve so much that they hired them, took the IP, and incorporated it. Then I suppose it is TECHNICALLY a Valve game, but was made by people who initially never worked for Valve.


VALVE IP's are Ricochet and Half Life. There is no Ricochet 2. There is no Half Life 3. There never will be.

Remember that time made one of the best looking shooters and then threw it under a fucking bus in the name of a quick and easy buck

Well Wow is the game that pretty much elevated Blizzard to god teir right? You know their flagship game that they squandered back when Blizzard became ACTIVISIONBlizzard. Blizz care only for the hypetrain now. Sure their cut-scenes are gorgeous, but the games they make have little shelf life.

>most people who have tried the beta like it
Nice assumptions. I didn't like it, therefore I assume that most people didn't, what now?

Also:
>a lot of people like it so it's good
A lot of people watch shitty movies and eat shit food, that doesn't automatically mean that they're good. Popularity doesn't equate quality, nigger.

You forgot Day of Defeat (also created by others initially as a mod)

>no consistency with the characters

What? The whole point is for them to be diverse but they still fit in the universe. They all work well from a gameplay standpoint.

>20 tick

I hate this but the game can handle more and they've said at the very least competitive and custom will have a higher rate. Hopefully all get a higher rate.


>letting people pay for loot crates

It's all cosmetic, can't be traded and results in maps and characters all being free. I'll take that over battleborns model.

>YouTube cinematics

I very much doubt those even dent their budgets.

None of this even has anything do with being like indie games. Especially the last one.

>Name just one that they've released in the past 5 years. And mind you, if it has a certain amount of cinematics or money spent into CGI graphics, it's not a game anymore. It's now classified as a movie, just like TLOU or Uncharted.
Name one Blizzard game that can be classified as a movie under these circumstances.

>Well most people who have tried the beta like it and think it's fun

About 10 million people use steam daily and enjoy it. So I guess by that logic, steam and valve are good companies?

>Valve doesn't dumb down their games for casuals
antlion_tunnels.jpg
and TF2 was pretty fucking dumbed down

Let me guess
It costs $40 on the market place

We don't valve is trash. Blizz isn't great but at least they used to be good.

>valve saved pc gaming by further popularizing DRM

You can tell a person's age when they say dumb shit like this.

>indieshit
But indie games are the best ones on the market, desu.

the only people who care about the 'image' of pc gaming are the people who

No it doesn't but the only thing you have against its quality is your shitty fucking opinion saying "lol its shit".

It's meta score and ratings from people who have played it is very good. Feel free to find something more objective than that.

Well the only blizz game I play is overwatch and I used to play wow but not anymore. So I'm not going to defend anything other than OW, and OW is extremely fun and has way more shit than TF2 did on launch.