>Overwatch on PC doesn't have aim assist! >Its all about aiming well! >Its the wonky hitboxes! >Its just some cheaters! This bullshit happens ALL THE TIME, whenever someone ( widowmaker, hanzo, mcree, genji, etc ) shoots "close enough" to the player, the game aligns the shot to hit the part of the player model on the same horizontal level of the crosshair during the shot.
competitive? esports? lmao, fucking dropped
Joshua Hughes
oh, looks like sad truth got exposed, shills werent prepared for that, better not bump this thread, maybe nobody will notice
Zachary Gutierrez
Where are the overwatch fags?
Connor Powell
>playing Team Fortress 3 >expecting it to be good
Grayson Price
Hey man I suck at snipping so I'm happy about this
Tyler Kelly
crying cuz they got rekt
Oliver Baker
I don't care, I'm having a lovely time with it and I'm glad I dropped £30 on it.
Nicholas Parker
Playing the game and having fun instead of bitching about every little thing.
Austin Barnes
The replay shows your client side interpretation. You're clearly lagging behind the server.
Daniel Cooper
>tfw 95% of you fuckers still can't hit anything anyway
The kill cam is glitchy as fuck btw. It doesn't play well with latency. Half the time the guy you're watching looks like an aimbot.
Adrian Richardson
if replays showed our client side interpretation we would see all the "get shot through the wall" that happens due to 20 tick, since we don't - its the version of the player you are watching
Luke Flores
>doesn't understand how the 20 tickrate works >doesn't turn kill cam off >made a webem of his death he's that buttmad
You only brought this anger on yourself.
Thomas Robinson
>kill cams are 100% accurate As far as I know, Hanzo has bigger hit boxes for his arrows
Lincoln Parker
>People starting to figure out McCree is OP >Every game has 2-3 McCrees now
FUCK
Grayson Brown
>m-muh tick
Getting shot through walls sometimes happens but it has nothing to do with the tick. The extra delay introduced by low tick isn't nearly enough to give a perceivable jank-back effect.
Bentley Lee
Is this real? I thought aim assist is used only on consoles to compensate for shitty controllers
What other PC games use aim assist?
Jayden Price
Pretty sure it's the shitty tickrate.
Adrian Perry
>Auto aim
It's the fucking tickrate lad. Still just as bad however
Nathaniel Harris
>it almost never happens on 64 tick servers >it never happens on 128 tick servers >it happens very often on 20 tick servers ya, no way its 20 tick fault, no fucking way
Jonathan Gonzalez
>watch Hanzo killcam >his arrows aren't event landing any where near me but are hitting as headshots >teammates are complaining about the same thing >switch to Hanzo >literally the same thing how is this even a thing, why is there aim assist, why is their baby hand holding
Chase Cook
Overwatch has a very different netcode from most classic FPS shooters. The devs should make a video explaining it so idiots like you would shut up.
Oh wait they did and you're still here.
Austin Thomas
designed from ground up for gamepads.
James Morris
>The extra delay introduced by low tick isn't nearly enough to give a perceivable jank-back effect
Yeah it fucking is
Nolan Cook
This.
It's shitty server tick rate, not aim assist.
The kill cam showed it with the lag of player and server.
Mason Smith
Why the fuck would I care about its competitive scene?
Blake Reyes
>no proof of pc version >no lag shown
top keking my friend ;)))
Cooper Torres
It's always this way. Sup Forums just cares about meme threads, not the truth or changing things.
Game is pure shit in some areas. Imbalanced as fuck. That teleporter whore is completely useless unless youre team is overpowered anyway. Ice whore is way too powerful considering how easy she is to use etc.
Also all that propaganda shit.
Best thing? No dedicated servers in 2016. How can anyone even defend this shit? It's pathetic. Just pathetic.
Cameron Butler
I noticed this shit immediately in beta especially when playing against a Hanzo
Carter Rodriguez
Would you please stop comparing this shit to Team Fortress? One character in Team Fortress alone, Demoman for example, has higher skil ceiling than all characters in OW combined. I ltierally mastered them all after 5-10 minutes.
Zachary Ramirez
>That teleporter whore is completely useless unless youre team is overpowered anyway. Ice whore is way too powerful considering how easy she is to use etc. jesus christ you're clearly a shitter
Liam Ortiz
Cool, now kill yourself.
Aaron Russell
I remember learning about tick rate and seeing a couple of images like this. Never thought a AAA title would release with that shit after 2013. Fuck me though, right?
Jayden Howard
Link to video where they explain shit like this webm in OP is normal and not helping aim.
Colton Hall
>oh no she's backing into a room i wonder if there's 6 sentries in there waiting for me >oh wow she's charging at us with her laser gun now she dead >oh fuck no a slow moving orb coming directly at me I sure hope I can press a or d in time
Grayson Kelly
That I have an aim and realize if a game is balanced or imbalanced doesn't make me a shitter.
When certain characters are worse than 9/10 characters in the game in most scenarios, they are imbalanced/shit. Have fun with the teleporter piece of shit when your team isn't significantly better or when you're defending the second control point. Or playing KOTH.
Evan Jones
your proving my point, a good symmetra doesnt do any of this, she stays with her party and place the sentries properly depending on the map. Armoring up people, and killing easy targets in tight places where health packs are.
Aaron Murphy
/thread
Robert Rogers
Nice blog, subscribed.
Jonathan Sanchez
you realize that Symmetra is particularly good at the start of the game and should be switched mid-game?
Wyatt Wood
>All these battlebabbys, nintoddlers, and fortressfags trying to diss overwatch while the majority of Sup Forums has fun
Lol sucks to be you
Luis Bailey
Underage b& detected
This client side/server side latency has been in multiplayer FPS games since the dawn of its inception
The kill cam is not a 1:1 replay of what happened, it's the server's recreation based on data sent from you and the enemy. Lag is inevitable, so it shows the enemy shooting somewhere where it seems like you weren't, but from the server's point of view, you were there just a few milliseconds before.
Sebastian Robinson
That's not aim assist you retard, that's called bullet magnetism
Jack Gutierrez
Yeah, too bad the enemy doesn't just watch you doing these things and instead kills you while you basically can't inflict damage if your enemy isn't facehugging you.
You're clearly playing in an overpowered team most the time, probably with friends against random shitters.
Exactly. She is good for like two specific scenarios while this ice bitch for example is always broken. How is this not imbalanced? And even in those specific scenarios she is still far from a must have. Very far.
Stop defending this shit balancing. Blizzard clearly had no idea what they were doing, it's their first shooter, they are retarded. They literally took the TF2 Engineer and made himt wo characters which is a retarded idea.
Hunter Nguyen
Me too but it's waved away as "the casuals won't notice it". It's a crime but all we can do now is spread the word.
Michael Evans
It's fun I'm glad I'm not a bitter autist that needs to shitpost every new game that comes out
Jackson Bailey
Widowmaker does have aim assist, but on the shitty fucking grappling hook.
>aim high on a ledge >game autoaims and sends the hook at ground level to the closest thing it can hook to >waste over 10 seconds to get to the good location again
Hunter Kelly
In that case it would also show the crosshair where the shot goes. It doesn't, though. Both is the same kind of visual design, wouldn't make this for it to differ in that Highlight video.
Owen Price
>Exactly. She is good for like two specific scenarios while this ice bitch for example is always broken. How is this not imbalanced? first off, I fail to see how its bad that a character excels in specific scenarios. I mean, its good for diversity and players with proper map knowledge.
And second, Mei is not even a problem.
Blake White
Guess what, other people would LOVE to have fun with this game too and bought it but they simply have higher standards than you and aren't OK with a heavily flawed product. Doesn't have anything to do with being an autist or a shitposter, these are things applying solely to you.
Camden Gomez
Projectiles have larger hitboxes than hitscan attacks.
John Davis
Pretty sure CS guy is faster than normal OW speed, and the netcode has special rules for movement spells. Also, it's important to note that the average delay will be half of the gap.
Tickrate could be higher but it wouldn't make a great noticeable difference and you'd just find a new buzzword to spam.
You will never escape issues with the netcode. Overwatch has client side hit detection that does create an issue with getting shot in cover (but this has more to do with either client having "normal" high ping, and more rarely the tick) but it's still better than server side that forces you to lead and all other shit.
Jacob Jackson
>Underage b& detected I don't think you know what "Underage b&" means.
Carter Sanders
>that webm >meanwhile I consistently miss shots that are inches away from their heads
???
Josiah Russell
>while this ice bitch for example is always broken.
Asher Smith
>Killcam >20 tickrate
Joseph Gonzalez
most likely due to bottleneck from consoles
Jason Davis
>he gets so mad that he was headshotted by widow that he posts a thread on Sup Forums after slowing down a webm of him getting shit
Jonathan Kelly
Mei is one of the worst character. Anyone that thinks she's overpowered is just salty, because yes she's frustrating, but not OP in any way imaginable.
Connor Anderson
once again, if it were like you say, we would see countless of replays where you see yourself behind a wall and getting shot - that doesnt happen, because replay shows exactly what the other player sees.
Jack Johnson
>first off, I fail to see how its bad that a character excels in specific scenarios. I mean, its good for diversity and players with proper map knowledge. When 50% the characters are always great and 50% are the characters are 50% the time shit, it's called imbalanced and dumb.
You can also end up in so many terrible situations this way.
>play Symmetra >ult ready >enemy just took first control point >wew, guess I'll have fun being a semi-useless piece of shiit making a basically useless teleporter and get killed
And Mei is a problem in any way, obviously. She is clearly a must have character, always, while having extremely low skill ceiling. People always shit on TF2 Pyro, rightfully so, but Mei is so much worse, it's not even funny.
Mason Lopez
>m-muh high standards In the end you're just a bitter autist nitpicking meaningless shit while other people are having fun. I bet you're a virgin too
Jose Myers
Nice argument, guess you realized you're in the wrong and it's better not even trying and instead posting a 2007 tumblr gif.
Dylan Davis
>Mei is a problem in any way, obviously. She is clearly a must have character
Leo Jenkins
i record all my gameplay for fun and "git gud" purposes and after rewatching a lot of them i noticed something weird about a lot of shots/kills/deaths, so i picked one, slowed it down and, oh boy, would you look at that...
Jonathan Hall
Are you retarded? We're all playing the game and trying to have fun, why are you defending it like a notorious shill? Do you love eating shit? Do you get paid by Blizzard?
Oliver Sanders
The only weapons with autoaim are hanzos arrows. Everything else is just poor networking with hitscan weapons
Jackson Perez
Nigga the shit you're receiving from the server is about 66% bullshit, because it's only sending about 33% of what happened.
I can only hope to God they make this shit 60hz both ways at least in ranked.
Isaiah Phillips
anyone who says competitive esports overwatch is a retard i like overwatch its a great casual shooter, but thats what it is
Parker Anderson
>hanzo killcam >its always just hanzos shooting arrows around the corner in the same or random spots and it always magicially lands headshots i then switched to hanzo earlier to try the same and kept getting easy kills too, the fuck is this im not evne aiming properly
Charles Clark
>tfw I play with you (Frost) a lot
D-does this mean my MMR is high?
Nathaniel Thompson
>turning off killcam >you can't screencheat to see the enemy's ult status
Joseph Ward
>group of five friends and a random ally >he pic Mei >3 in the chat instantly request that he switch >he doesnt >fucking useless all game
Samuel Perry
>can boost allies to high places they shouldn't be able to reach >can kill a push in a second by just splitting their team in half with a wall >incredible sustain >able to slow and freeze enemies at close range
Yeah she really isn't that good
Carter Reed
>I put a muh in front of his sentence, this will show him
Now I realize why fucking everyone is doing "xD" in Overwatch while I've never seen anyone doing it in 5 years of TF2. The game is literally for 12 year old Reddit children.
See
Noah Powell
>page down
what
Owen Young
Really? The competitive games look very different when playing at a tickrate of 60. The change is very noticable to me, but that may just be that the players are better.
Nathan Stewart
No one cares
Alexander Williams
That's great for you, there already are many """""""""professional"""""""" matches on Youtube and Twitch showing how broken she is.
Aaron Reyes
everybody already knows OW is a joke when it comes to balance, netcode or skill ceiling, but it's still fun why continue this topic?
Why have I never seen anyone complaining about no dedicated servers?
Even console shooters have this now.
>can't have a fav public server you play on with rivals you love-hate >can't have fav publiv sercer with custom rules and certain maps you like >just when you got used to some cool people; a few guys leave, connection is lost and game puts you into a new room with new random guys every time >can't even switch teams >not sure if it's even possible to play against friends you invited, probably not >CAN'T EVEN FUCKING LOOK FOR SPECIFIC GAME MODES, it's all random
Did we just lower our standards for this game? Why?
Then there also is Junkrat. You can sticky jump like Demoman but the jump direction is fix, it's not physically correct. You can't sticky jump far instead of high depending on how far away you are from the sticky or if it's right underneath you.
It's pure casual shit.
Josiah Parker
>r-reddit You sure showed everyone with those hot arguments fagtron. Do this board a favor and stop posting.
Ryder Scott
Is that why all these """"""""professionals"""""""" put her at or near the bottom of every """"""""""tier list""""""""?
Matthew Wood
>Complaining about tickrate >Complaining about bullets not landing where they should Could it be... that the two problems are linked? Idiots.
Gabriel Bennett
So you want me to come up with a great counter argument against no argument? I see.
Dominic Phillips
>soon the meta will be 6 McCree's
Sebastian Baker
>look bottom left corner >left shiff >f >no proof of pc version fuck off summerfag youre not funny
Andrew Collins
Yeah I have been thinking that some shots shouldn't have hit especially with Hanzo and Widowmaker. Its like 90% of Overwatch players are good at sniping but its actually just that its hard to be bad with them
Jackson Evans
That shit about Junkrat jumping is 100% incorrect
Gabriel Morales
I just checked for shit and giggles, holycrap she at the bottom with bastion and other in pretty much all the lists. kek
Xavier Lee
I hope your aware by blizzards own admission the kill cam is unreliable
Kayden Gray
Tried that, couldn't get past the first choke point in king's row. 6 winstons on the other hands might have ruined their shit.
Isaiah Miller
No. Tier lists are absolute bullshit mostly comprising 1vs1 no items final destination only.
Nothing changes the fact she can just rush into a battle and easily fuck up Reinhardts or an entire team without any effort at all. At all.
Lincoln Rodriguez
Well it's a fact you're an autistic faggot, so you're right, no counter argument there.
Grayson Morales
This is the 20 tickrate at work.
I remember in the Beta getting hit or killed after running behind cover multiple times.
This is partially why I didn't get it. Stuff like this infuriates me.
Matthew Cooper
Tickrate matters less in client side games. I wish it was higher too, but it's hardly the biggest deal.